Optional discussion: who do you think would win said Civil War?
Last time, I asked about whether rDrama would support a Trump Dictatorship, the result of which was against that by 32-69.
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Who would you side with should a Second American Civil War break out?
!chuds !nonchuds !poll_voters
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I would try to bunker down and keep the goons out of town. I'm goonphobic
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Ill take the folks with the guns and the food ive already seen what leftoids can grow
!r-slurs
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Our father Stalin, blessed be his name, will shoot those people (again). Don't worry.
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Stalin was based, nobody killed more commies than he did
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The problem with killing Chi-coms is that you feel like killing some more in an hour.
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Stalin banned abortion and sodomy. He wouldn't even be on Blue Team in the first place.
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Lumpenproles on maid watch
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Darn good point. I want to change my vote
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CHAZ really was taken from us too soon. It caused so much joy for so many (dramatards).
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It ended when the brave anti-racist freedom fighters gunned down a black 16 year old and almost killed his 14 yo friend, and then hid all the evidence when they realized they killed the wrong target
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Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened, and we got pictures.
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yea but we're on the right
side of history 
chud 
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SPEAK for your self. I'm on the left side of history
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I was there lol. Better in person
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None, because a "Second American Civil War" would just be daily mass shootings and bombings by 37 different terrorist groups and I don't have the free time to join one
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Assume, for the sake of the scenario, that there are two different governments with armies marching around both claiming to be the legitimate USG.
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If this is a serious question, it depends on which side went full r-slur first e.g. court packing
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Assume the election was Bush 2000 Florida-tier close and both sides claim victory. No real "full r-slur" moment until the shooting starts.
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Evacuate my family and start a new life in Singapore. I'd need a pretty convincing reason to shoot my countrymen.
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You probably wouldn't be able to evacuate, unless you somehow manage to sneak into Canada or something.
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Shoot the goons. It's simple
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...I assume that means you want to ban porn?
Rightoid.
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Based
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cute twink
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They're r-slurs who started fighting a civil war over election results would be as good of a reason as any for me.
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Hopefully I get to be a cool warlord type guy with a Wikipedia page that's 90% "War Crimes Accusations"
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!r-slurs TX bounty hunters in real life!
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I hate wingcucks with a burning passion but if shit hits the fan I'd rather join team AR15 while booze cruising in a fortified truck.
Then again I'm a euro so in reality I'd probably watch it all unfold through rDrama efforrposts while seething about high taxes
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Europe isn't that weak.
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Poland could annex Germany militarily.
Its that fricked.
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FTFY
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I am well aware of the Bundeswehr's Ls.
I was mainly thinking about France and Poland when I wrote that.
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France alone is a better middle power than russia ever was, russoids would get btfo so fricking hard their only option would be to nuke everything
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France's official strategy in case of Russian invasion of Europe is to nuke Germany, as a warning.
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It's what Jesus would want
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Lmao
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Bruh russia couldnt even successfully invade the ukraine, how tf are they gonna invade civilized countries?
Trans lives matter
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Darn I can't believe Russia couldn't take over a country being bankrolled by the most powerful nation on earth
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And you somehow believe the entire western world wouldn't bankroll richer European countries even harder? Not to mention NATO article 5
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Yes. We fund NATO more than the next 13 NATO members combined. Almost nobody follows the NATO requirements to spend >2% of GDP on national defense. Our "allies" aren't pulling their weight, because they already got what they wanted from our military, and they have little room to tax harder to increase defense spending because they already tax so aggressively.
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How is that relevant? Yes European NATO members don't pull their weight compared to the US, that's just a fact. But I can guarantee if Putin lays eyes on Germany, the USA would be firing up the war machine before the first Russian boot hits German soil. Plus article 5 means it's Russia vs most of the world's most powerful military forces. If you look at what happens in Ukraine - which is among the poorest countries in Europe and not a NATO member - just imagine Russia vs NATO.
All of this is kinda irrelevant of course because nukes exist but my entire point is that the "Ukraine only does well because of western aid" argument is true but doesn't mean other countries would just crumble against a laughably inept Russian military
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Read the comments that started this thread, this is all taking place in the context of a US civil war, which means we'll be too preoccupied to help Europe.
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Imagine how much aid we'd send if they tried to invade actual white people
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They fricked up from the beginning, 3 days my butt
I dont doubt theyd have the ukraine taken by now if they didnt have help, but they still couldnt beat europe in a million years.
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The vast, vast majority of the US's GDP comes from blue cities. Anyone siding with trump here is an idiot who will get crushed like how we crushed the confederacy in 1865.
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GDP isn't an effective measure of war production to be honest. A lot of that is financialization and service jobs/dependent on resource inputs that would disappear should a war break out.
Plus, many cities with red suburbs would basically start under siege.
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There is exactly zero percent chance that Orange County takes up arms against LA. It's just not realistic. Red suburbs are red because rich boomers live there and want tax breaks, not because they are itching to join the MAGA shooting war.
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That would apply more in places like Texas or Georgia - places with looser gun laws. The deepest Blue states have already done the intelligent and pragmatic thing by disarming said suburbs.
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Yeah, sure Austin, TX falls to the chuds on day 3, but SXSW is garbage anyway and mediocre IPAs won't feed your army, so it's no great loss for Team Blue.
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Yeah that's gonna be the other issue. Nearly all the farmland outside of California Central Valley and the Black Belt (which is cut off) is deep Red.
I am aware ports exist, but depending on what parts of the Navy go where that could be dubious at best, let alone the state of the rest of the world in the meanwhile.
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Leafistan would likely continue feeding team blue, although there is a literally sub-zero likelihood of intervention otherwise
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Canada would probably be in chaos too.
Long border, and a lot of chuds that could be easily armed in the Praries to cut the country in two. Also probably tens of millions of refugees.
That also assumes the Quebecois don't ally with the Republicans in exchange for independence.
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Yeah, that's a good point Mexico will be team blue as well.
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Canada absolutely wouldn't share food with the US. US < Indigenous in their minds.
Honestly, the only really authentic thing in Handmaid's Tale is when Canadians turn on US-expats and give them the Thunder Bay treatment. That's the real Canada right there.
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Indeed, disarming people is intelligent when you want subjects rather than citizens.
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The blues would get the lion's share of international support, from the EU to the UN to MSFT. The reds would thumb their noses at everyone except Israel and maybe Russia.
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Perfect for war economy. Imagine the capital that blue states could muster. More money = more resources = more chances to control critical areas.
Of course, a US civil war is all hypothetical. But if it were to happen now for some inextricable reason, I think blue states would have better funding. Who is buying republikkkan war bonds lmao
(Still voted chud, more dramatic)
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What would the US Dollar (or for that matter, American companies/properties/stocks/bonds) be worth in the middle of a hot Civil War?
Not much, I presume.
Also money -> resources conversion requires trade, which would be dicey at best.
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Have you considered the fact that you will never be a woman, and the only thing you've ever crushed are your balls?
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Interesting opinion.
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fact*
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Every opinion is a fact, it's just a matter of framing.
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*Every opinion claims it is in fact a fact.
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Close enough to the truth
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Darn Luigi I don't remember this part of Mario world
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(i literally just made this up)
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No, that's actually true.
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and its the only reason why they are kept alive
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It's true!
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I distinctly remember an article showing counties that voted for Clinton and Trump in a chart by GDP size, and the Clinton counties' econ being much larger in a diagram.
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How do they calculate a GDP of a nation wide company down to a single county? Is it just going by where the HQ?
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Where's the Radical Centrist Terror Cell option
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Rightoids would be gunning for my clan and kin in any war, so they force me to be against them even if they're right.
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Your klan huh?
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Mine is an insular community that apes familial canton structures. The line between clan and cult blurs at the edges.
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Polyculemaxxing?
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I bet he knows the thrill of popping the weasle
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Sounds more like a Groomercord server.
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Please do not advocate for Catholic rightoid liquidation while we still have a functioning central government.
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The Catholic rightoids will be doing the liquidation
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I'm going to complete communion with a tall glass of Italian-aged
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Please do not advocate for Catholic rightoid liquidation while we still have a functioning central government.
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Kill all mayos
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Cons for each option:
Trump/Rightoids - too obese to be a threat. Due to Incestual defects many of them will be too stupid to understand whats going on. Will refuse to properly ration anything because "its communism" causing a lot of people to die or be killed
Biden/Leftoids: 41% of the army will kill themselves week 1. Will have frequent panic attacks for no reason at all making them a non issue. Will refuse to fight until their demans are met, demands will be getting exponentially higher and more insane.
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!glowies
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We win either way
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One side has the glowies and the military high command on their side, the other side has a bunch of fat r-slurs with ARs. The decision is obvious
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Military command is just being able to order around slim r-slurs with ARs in this case.
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And like drones and tanks and shit tho
Also slim > fat, still ridin' with Biden
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I'd side with rightoids only if they weren't associated with Trump, if the only options were Biden/Leftoids and the alliance between christianity and fossil fuels I'd be against both sides.
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What are your problems with both factions, then? What are your sticking points/postwar aims?
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I'm generally too much of a chud to join the left, but more of a nrx-lite/post-rat style chud in policy, a lot of mainstream/populist rightoid style policies are politically and environmentally counterproductive (examples: abortion restrictions, refusal to address climate change accurately, going after the entire LGBTQ+ instead of just the TQ+, pointless vaxx seething and anti-electric seething, blanket anti-transhumanism). A lot of my policies/opinions would be considered political suicide, but that doesn't mean I have to join a side that also has relatively little in common with me. As for postwar aims, I would mainly join the side I hate the least rather than the side I like the most, but I would greatly appreciate a potential opportunity for ideas I am adjacent with to be no longer taboo (see your comment on the "neopaganism-equivalent" of a future chud government) and for society to no longer be founded on the expectation of increasing egalitarianism/permissiveness by default.
Answering this question has made me realize how much I dislike many of my fellow rightoids, and how infighting could end up being an issue if a war actually did happen (although ~80% of the non-deeply online will likely just follow their respective party line)
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It's nice to see you remember me
It's very funny that rightoids have become so stupid they're running off literal NRx darwinist eugenicists.
Though, fwiw, most people will follow the party line of their allegiance. So maybe you could be Red Tribe Deng Xiaoping - a revolt meant to prevent a cyberpunk transhuman urban future becoming its faithful executor the same way the PRC became for foreign-investment fueled capitalism in China.
That would be one of the funniest outcomes, second only to unironic MAGA Communism.
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!mottezans words words words
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the fricking incel 
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Don't ping us for this shit again.
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You have said nothing
of worth with a lot of words.
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I was long-shot hoping someone would take this and run with it but
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The LGBTQ+ ruined
trolling 
with wordswordswords 
It was a nice attempt though.
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Guess we're in the same boat
My take is that between leftoid anti-nuclear policies, and the whole "GOP development of massive inland cities away from the main coasts" thing, I gather that the plan is to work _around_ climate change instead of uprooting civilization to prevent it.
These are a part of the natalist maxxing sexual ethics underpinning chuddery - there's a reason "sodomy" was illegal even for straight couples. The primary dividing lines are "s*x as consensually pleasurable act" vs. "s*x as reproductive act" (left v. right) and "do human beings have inherent value despite genetic errors/inferiority" (which is where you get eugenicists v. christians).
You probably have to settle the first question to have the chud intra-party struggle over the second question.
Yeah, I admit that's fully r-slurred. The right thing to do here was to go to a blue area and get the shot to hedge your bets - why would "they" kill off their own base?
I'm more of a fan of improving the human form and intellect, and am a bit reticent about implants due to cybersecurity and privacy issues, but if it's open-source, voluntary and airgapped with no auto-updates or always-on internet connection I'm relatively fine with it. I'm not the average chud though.
That would be the primary shift of such a rightoid victory - the ability to stigmatize those ideas with our vanquished domestic enemies.
If the political question of the long early 21st century will be the Natal Question (1991-206?), the political question of the long late 21st century (206?-21??) will be the Transhuman Question - how much is too much? Is it sinful? Should we let AI run our government?
But I consider an AI enforcing Blue stagnation to probably be an even worse outcome than a paperclip scenario or a "SKYNET" scenario, so the point is kind of moot on that front.
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For me: the Leftoids will hate me b/c I think some Christianity will be the best cornerstone for society when the war has reintroduced food shortages (nothing fancy, just Sermon on the Mount style). The Rightoids even without Trump association will hate me for being anti-macho. In my circles being aggressive is a major transgression, while defending the community isn't.
So: would an armed Amish community be aligned with either faction? Probably the Rightoids, because trumpists and truck bros are just a subsection of the larger scene. Should Trump-acceptance be a must then Leftoids because without the support of rural America the Leftoids soon will recognize the value of harvesting food and feeding people... not that they wanna pay for it...
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Never mind politics, I'm picking the side that own all the guns.
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Which team has cooler uniforms?
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There was no time to make a uniform, they're both in the same uniforms for now.
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Will either of them hire me to design a new uniform? If both, which side will give me more creative freedom?
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Dirty tricks, MI6
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I wish. I could get paid for this?
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The MIC
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I would
join both armies and pretend to be on their side but poison 
all of their food
total wingcuck
death 
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