A movie set weapons handler who loaded a gun for actor Alec Baldwin before it fired and killed a cinematographer was "sloppy", her trial has heard.
"Negligent acts" by armourer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 26, led to Halyna Hutchins' death during the production of Rust, prosecutors told the court.
Ms Gutierrez-Reed has pleaded not guilty to charges of involuntary manslaughter and tampering with evidence over the fatality during the production of the Western in the US state of New Mexico.
During opening statements for the trial in Santa Fe on Thursday, prosecutors argued that the defendant's "unprofessional" on-set conduct led to an avoidable tragedy in which live ammunition found its way into a weapon.
"You will hear testimony that she routinely left guns and ammunition lying around the set unattended and her gun safe and ammo cart were constantly disorganised," special prosecutor Jason Lewis said.
To make their case, prosecutors showed jurors boxes of ammunition that were on set the day the shooting took place, which they said contained live rounds interspersed with dummy ones.
They allege that Ms Gutierrez-Reed negligently brought live ammunition from her home to the set that day, including the bullet that struck and killed Ms Hutchins.
The defence case is basically to just keep saying that Alec Baldwin is at fault because he fired the gun. I'd love to see him do prison time but the armourer sounds much worse.
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I thought Rust guaranteed memory safety. Turns out to be a bunch of marketing crap
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Memory safety does not guarantee equivalent safety of other resources.
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Why would you even need to bring live ammo to a film set
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One reasonable occasion would be if you wanted to have Alec Baldwin shoot the cinematographer.
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Probably to have fun and frick around when filming wrapped up so your boys can shot the cool guns
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There would be NO reason to have her shot, unless you didn't want her upcoming p-dophile-exposing documentary to be completed and released
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It's sad that I have to ask butβ¦
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After this event occurred Nicholas Cage held an online
discussion in which he asked 
this.
Nicholas Cage was a voice
of reason in this case. Let that sink in.
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Even a broken clock is Nicholas Cage twice a day
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I would like expect nothing else from the man behind face off and plane snakes or whatever.
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it would be kinda discriminatory to only allow blanks
on set, don't you think?
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Because muh realism and I can't get in my character's skin if I'm not allowed to LARP al over the set
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Too drunkinly shoot beer bottles when not shooting the director in the face.
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I feel like this is a completely separate issue to be addressed. Two mistakes happened. There is some sort of negligence from the armorer for sure, but I don't know what charges that would bring, probably more of a civil suit type of thing.
If you are going to fire a real gun, you should practice real gun safety. Baldwin has no real excuse for not checking the weapon that he aimed at a person and fired, leading to a preventable accidental death. He didn't have to aim center of mass on a real person, the camera wouldn't have noticed if he was off by a bit. His whole defense on "not pulling the trigger" is almost irrelevant in my mind since he was so negligent on basic gun saftey leading up to that point. This is negligent but otherwise lawful behavior that resulted in death. Clear cut manslaughter
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Wdym checking the weapon?
It was loaded, but he thought they were blanks.
What do you expect him to do, unload every round and visually inspect them?
I hate AB as much as the next guy, but that's goofy. He doesn't know shit about guns, it's not his job.
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yes I expect him to check the max of 6 bullets in the gun before pointing a real weapon directly at people before pulling the trigger. Realistically it should be loaded with a single bullet. They are going to have to cgi the scene anyways to make the other cartridges look loaded with bullets instead of crimped blanks
but he pulled the trigger and has responsibility. Negligence and ignorance isn't a defense for manslaughter...that's what makes it manslauter
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I've been on movie sets, the rules usually forbid actors from opening up and checking firearms themselves without being under the supervision of the armorer (who wasn't there). No opening or closing them, no putting anything in them, no messing around with them, nothing. Literally the entire point of requiring armorers is that there's exactly one person responsible for securing and handling the gun.
I know everyone's super excited to see Bad SNL Liberal Man go to jail but it's just not going to happen. He followed the rules, it's not his job to know the difference between a dummy and a bullet, it's not his job to know firearm safety rules (some of which aren't applicable in a movie production anyways), it's just not his problem. The words βcold gunβ exonerate him.
They maybe could get him because he's a producer and so is supposed to be in charge of things, but given they haven't charged the other producers (including the one that hired the armorer) that's obviously not the angle they're going for.
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If that's true, that is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. I personally don't have anything against alec baldwin. I actually appreciate the seethe from portraying orange man. I guess with what you are saying in mind, maybe he will get off but I feel like it will go to trial. I don't expect him to be jailed regardless. a fine, maybe some community service or something
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I mean, it works. The last incident was Brandon Lee 30 years ago. On-set protocols for handling weapons safely works and works well. Meanwhile how many ammosexuals who really should know better manage frick up every year?
And dummy rounds are just rounds without the powder and primer, they look exactly like real rounds. You can tell the difference (they're usually filled with BBs so you can shake them) but you have to actually inspect the round, it's not as straightforward as looking down the cylinder.
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Yeah I guess. Idk though it definitely seems like a weird legal area.
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I don't think you're supposed to fire blanks at someone either. They could be hit by shrapnel or hot gases or something.
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It's literally their job to fire blanks at each other
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Actually, yes
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well thats dumb. if he had to do that then why do they have the gun girl in the first place.
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To prepare the guns, distribute them when needed, and lock them up when done. It's still the actor's responsibility to clear whatever is given to you.
Your trigger pull = your responsibility
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nah.
like i see your point, but actors are dumb and you cant expect them all to just know gun safety
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Show them that fricking up means going to jail, and they'll figure it out.
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sure, but also dont give loaded guns to r-slurs
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The funniest part is he's so anti-gun he's actually come out against things like gun safety classes for children
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it hurts my redneck brain to think about. I knew that shit when i was 5. I used to sit outside shooting my dad'e empty beer cans with my bb gun for hours every single day when I was 5. Even if you don't like guns, the gun safety rules are so easy and there are so many guns. Why not just be generally safe? Ignoring guns doesn't protect you
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My mom who has no interest in guns took the gun safety class with me just so she could handle one safely in an emergency
It's like city dwellers that go out of their way not to learn how to drive, I get you like your bike and buses but you still need to know how to use a car
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Don't forget that Baldwin hired her, he could have shut the set down when he heard people popping off rounds in the desert. They're both culpabale in my opinion
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Would baldwin even be able to tell the difference between a blank and real round? He's a pretty r-slurred leftoid so he may not know shit about guns.
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I truly don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone handling a real gun to know the very barest facts and safety pertaining to the gun. He doesn't have to know how to clean it or anything, but I don't see how insurance is insuring putting weapons in totally unqualified peoples hands. If he is this dumb, he has no business handling a firearm
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In case you need to shoot things for visuals or for recording audio.
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I dont think cinematographers are supposed to be in the movie though
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She was hanging out with the crew shooting cans lol
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They were peepeeing around with the guns between filming days.
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Baldwincels are getting too uppity
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HE WAS THE PRODUCER HE MUST BE HELD RESPONSIBLE!
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Trigger puller and pointer ater
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Yeah, that and he literally shot someone.
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also neverforget
alex baldwin literally beats his fricking children and there is a phone recording of him calling his own fricking daughter the most horrible words in the books and informs her how much he is going to hurt her
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Didn't he call a reporter a strag once?
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Akex Baldwin is........based?
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Alec Baldwin admits to βbullying' women
Alec Baldwin on TMZ's founder: βThere was a time when my greatest wish was to stab Harvey Levin with a rusty implement and watch his entrails go running down my forearm .β.β. I wanted him to die in my arms, while looking into my eyes, and I wanted to say to him, βOh, Harvey, you thoughtless little pig.'ββ
https://nypost.com/2013/11/12/top-alec-baldwin-rants/
Rightoids just dislike him because he's a lib and played a trump caricature on SNL
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Strag or f*g? Because strag is acceptable, and hilarious
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strag
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Doesnt answer the question
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Made me lol, came out of nowhere
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lol the most Hollywood douche around
βYou didn't pick up my callsβ
βI had to pull over and take time of out my day to call youβ
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Meh. Once he dies she going to be rich.
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So he's a good dad?
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yea, leaving drunk theatening voicemails to your daughter (11yo btw) because you have custody problems with her mother is totally reasonable
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Agreed.
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INFO: did he call his daughter -a, or drop hard R's
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in the clip of the voicemail he left he called her a pig. which white women consider even worse than a hard R because, y'know, fat shaming.
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an 11 year old girl at that
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I know how it's like to have a negligent discharge in my pants...
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you deserved it
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What are the most horrible names in the books?
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This is a pro-child abuse
website.
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I had always heard she wasn't even on set that day but i guess that wasn't true
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I'm not sure that working from home is a valid option or legal excuse for an armourer. "Here's the gun box I left it unlocked have fun"
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I heard it was not an originally planned shoot, but who knows if that was misinformation too
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It's the perfect crime. Hire a foid armorer (keep live ammo around, you know she'll make the terrible mistake sooner than later), now you can finally shoot the woman who was gonna expose your secrets to the media. Alec Baldwin truly is the perfect killer. Losers like Ted Bundy get caught while he lives the good life
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She was giving a producer sloppy, wasn't she?
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IIRC she has a well-connected relative.
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Her dad is a big Hollywood armorer iirc.
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Nepotism out here literally killing people
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We shouldn't speculate on an ongoing court case.
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It's important for the integrity of the law
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Her dad is a big time Hollywood armorer.
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Needs way better taste
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Thats true of every foid and underage moid tho
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very sus
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This should be a simple case but it's funny no one wants to take any responsibility so we have to go through 2 different trials
She looks like one too
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I never understood why they went after Alec Baldwin apart from him being in charge. The armorer is ultimately responsible for all the gun safety on set. I know right wingers have a hate hard on for the guy which is fine i hate celebrities too, but this dumb c*nt should take the fall.
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Maybe it would be different if it was while the cameras were rolling, but they weren't and he fired a gun at a cast member when he didn't need to. I agree that this should all fall on the armourer but it's pretty easy to charge a shooter with a crime.
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So they were just practicing for the scene before shooting and he pulls the trigger on a real gun that normally fires loud blanks? Weird.
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The fact that there existed a live round on set at any point in time is 100% the armorer's fault imo
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Yeah I don't get how that isn't the only consideration
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I think going after Alec in civil court is fair game but I do not think he's criminally responsible for anything, either. The armorer absolutely fricked up and it was her literal job to make sure this didn't happen lol.
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I believe that part of the argument is that because he was the producer on the set, he was also in-part responsible for the safety complaints that were being ignored in the weeks leading up to this incident. While the majority of the blame falls on the armourer, he was also negligent in his duties as a producer which also allowed for the circumstances of the shooting to occur.
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He pulled the trigger on a gun he didn't clear himself. The reason it's negligent to do so even when someone tells you it's clear is to prevent this specific thing from happening.
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Because when you learn about gun safety, one of the things you learn is to treat every gun as loaded until you yourself clear it. Alec did the thing that everyone has heard as the textbook example of what not to do. Someone hands you a gun and tells you it's unloaded, until you clear it yourself, too bad, it's loaded.
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This is why you can't trust women
around guns
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Hollyeood actors will literally do anything like hire entirely incompetent other people than practice basic firearm safety
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I watched her interview with police and she sounds like a ditzy nonchalant lazy person
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post shenis
Snapshots:
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archive.ph (click to archive)
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I've been wondering since day one when this foid was going to prison over this
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And because that dumb r-slur keeps saying he didn't shoot the gun which makes him easier to accuse
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It's hard to imagine him going down on the basis that "he fired the gun". I would personally have thought they'd go for a "he has ultimate authority and responsibility as the director" line of argument but hey I'm no lawyercel.
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checking a gun is basic gun safety that the average 5 year old in texas probably knows. as a grown butt man, he was ultimately responsible for the safety of himself and others as the person holding a real gun. It literally takes a few seconds to check everything. The difference between a blank and a real bullet is apparent to even an amateur.
He obviously didn't mean to kill someone but ultimately his negligence or ignorance directly lead to the preventable death of another person. Everything else is sort of irrelevant, but should be used as a lesson on why teaching and practicing gun safety is critically important. I don't see why this wouldn't be manslaughter. It's not like the revelation that the armorer was an r-slur is going to bring someone back from the dead. She didn't fire a gun at anyone
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fricking lol
OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS ALL ALEC BALDWIN'S FAULT NO ONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE AT ALL!!!
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Unbelievably rslured. Ngl baldwin is way more innocent for this. The armorer was legally r-slurred.
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if anything baldwin is guilty only because he hired this airhead to be the armorer
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Baldwin haters just lose and lose and lose
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Why?
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