Rdrama is so white that we got scooped on this issue by fricking NBC News.
Joanna Georges, 22, of New Jersey, was excited to get her hair done. She had contacted Alexis Antoine on social media to get box braids, and paid the $100 deposit to secure her 6 a.m. spot on Antoine's schedule for Sept. 2. But the night before, Georges said, Antoine pushed her appointment, first to 8 a.m, then 9 a.m., then to 10 a.m.
“I had a feeling after waking up and seeing my appointment was pushed back that it just wasn't going to work out,” Georges told NBC News. Still, she said she made the 20-minute walk to Antoine's home for the appointment, only to get no response from the stylist.
“I'm just waiting outside her house for an hour,” she recalled. “I finally made my way home and she texted me, like, ‘I'm so sorry. I fell asleep.'”
The botched appointment set off a monthslong ordeal, with Georges urging Antoine on social media to return her security deposit. Georges said Antoine repeatedly gave excuses for not sending back the money and continued to put it off. Unsuccessful, Georges ultimately decided to sue Antoine in small claims court in Hudson County's Superior Court of New Jersey.
I figured there's got to be more so I searched "stylist" on /r/blackladies. And holy shit this is a hilarious cottage industry of random trashy bitches scamming people with their shitty dubiously licensed "small business" and I had no idea it was this bad.
I have been looking to get my ends trimmed by one of the natural stylists. I dont wear my hair straight so I dont want to get it flat ironed for a trim plus it messes with the shape of the hair. All the places are $200. I have 2 inches of hair in the longest spots. I'm happy there are people offering the service and the knowledge is there but why dont any of these places have a middle ground.
I figured out why black women are poor
black hair stylist / braiders need to realize that their services are a LUXURY not a necessity because why am i being charged an extra $25 for being 5 minutes late?
these same stylist will be 10-20 minutes late to their appointments because they can't manage time and then charge the customer for being late. these stylists need to recognize that this is not a necessity. Even the necessary appointments give us a grace period, for FREE. the lack of customer service offered from a SERVICE is baffling to me. Plus, why is the cost for knotless braids like $200+ up now?
If it's not a necessity than surely you can stop paying for it, right? (pretend this is a demand curve)
There's a lot of reasons why I turned to YouTube University School of Cosmetology.
Incidentally this is the same school the stylist went to.
On the app some stylist don't release the location of their shop until 24-48 hrs before the appt so the day before I realized I still didn't know where the shop was.
I'm not on enough levels of racism to understand why this could be !chuds any ideas?
I booked a fulani braid for juneteenth two years ago on style seat. I live in phoenix az. It was 120 degrees outside she was an hour late because she was moving from her apartment. When she finally got there and Im boiling alive in my car, she says she needs lunch. WHY BOOK ME IF YOURE BUSY???
dude I'm busy lmao
Booked the appointment and sent her a message asking if I could book a blow out as well. She said yes but it would have to be a silk press. Fine, whatever. Booked the silk press ($125) in addition to the take down ($175). Then she messaged me asking if I wanted an Olaplex treatment and trim (extra $70+). I said no thank you, I just had a trim before I had my braids put in.
She continued to try and sell me on it as being healthy for my hair, and I just said thanks again, but I'm only interested in the take down and silk press.
Then she said, "As a healthy hair stylist, that doesn't work for me. I'm cancelling both of your appointments". I asked her if she would just do the braid take down and she said no.
https://old.reddit.com/r/blackladies/comments/16f7pj4/these_hair_stylists_are_nuts/
$300 deposit
Apparently these people do house calls:
We had an appointment yesterday for 9am and she texted me that she had arrived at 9:03 and there was no parking. I responded “no worries, take your time and hopefully something open up soon”
About 15 minutes later, I receive this text along with her leaving and me scrambling to find another braider:
“I've realized over the past year of service you in your home. There has been a lack of care for me as your stylist having proper parking. It would have been helpful as my client to make sure parking is available when I arrive to start in a timely manner. Unfortunately, I can't continue to service you anymore. I wish you the best in your future. God Bless. “
https://old.reddit.com/r/blackladies/comments/19bik98/hair_stylists_again/
My appointment was for 8:30 [...] By 8:50am -9am, a woman shows up, opens the salon, shes not my stylist.
I introduce my self, sit on the couch and she tells me to sit in the salon chair so she can start my hair. I dont even know who she is and if she is able to even do my hair. So I comply because im desperate. Turns out to be my stylists cousin.
Then my stylist rolls in at 9:30 am, and AFTER eating, starts doing my hair around 9:50~ along with their cousin.
We really need a black
I've never had a hair appointment start on time. Like you, I usually book the earliest appointment available. That way if I'm meant to be in the chair at 9:00 a.m. I know I'll at least get started by 10:30. It's an unfortunate part of the experience.
It truly is. I didnt eat breakfast, have coffee or even have water because I was running late. I know for next time.
This is how it would feel if you didn't eat breakfast.
Would you be offended if your stylist was on the phone the whole time they were doing your hair? I think maybe a 5 or 10 minute conversation but the whole time strikes me as unprofessional and not relaxing.
i prefer it, less time i have to speak to them
They may be black women but they're still redditors
There's no non-racist way to ask this but why don't they just do whatever they did back in slavery days
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I would be infuriated if my barber or hairdresser was 90 minutes late to start an appointment that had a security deposit (??).
And don't tell me it's a foid thing - even my foid friends who have to book out for a six hour hair appointment to get styled, dyed, dried etc would leave if the stylist was that late. This is exclusively because there's basically zero stylists who do black womens natural hair and know that clients have no choice lmao
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This but for nappy headed ho stylers
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dont you get my vidya time is more important than you saving lives
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Why the frick would anyone even pay a security deposit for barber?
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Foids lol
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No this is a black thing. I have never once even heard of paying a deposit for a hairstyle as a snow roach.
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It's cuz nigs run off after the cut to avoid full price
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From these comments it sounds like its normal for everyone involved to be late as frick (as we know, being on time is fricking white supremacy), so I guess it makes sense to let clients pay a fricking deposit for potential lost time.
But in reality its probably just an easy way to squeeze more money out of people.
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Supply and demand.
The whole reason there are so many unlicensed barbers/stylists is because there isn't enough of them going to school and being trained, so the local gov doesn't enforce licensing much... other barber's don't care to push them cuz they are busy enough.
Also you'll notice a few said they don't know the location of the stylists until day of. So it's literally people without a license or even a set shop. Yet they get to frick around and still survive as a business.
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The experienced hairstylists I know that went to cosmetology school in the 80s or 90s that didn't fry their brains with drugs are AWAYS busy and do a lot of repairs
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You have to have a license to cut hair in America?
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In some states you need a 3yr degree to cut hair, others it's easier, in Canada you need to go to barber school and the final exam acts as the licensing exam.
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I'm never letting North Americans get away with using the license meme again
!britbongs come look at this shit
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some states require a 4yr degree to be an interior designer, 4 yrs of uni to buy furniture for some rich broads
UK licenses are bad but US loves doing it to businesses and letting industry cartels run rampant, artificially controlling competition to raise wages under the guise of protecting customers
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To be completely fair: most of the hairdressers I've met are fricking idiots that make me look awful.
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Too many people giving all their customers MRSA because they've never heard of Barbicide
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Yes. It's often actually held up as a prime example of weaponzing licensing to keep out competition.
Fun fact: The average cosmetologist in the U.S. trains for 372 days before earning a license. The average emergency medical technician spends 33 days in training.
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Not to be a "stylist", but to be a barber you need a license. You do not have to be a barber to cut hair. Really not sure what the license is for.
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it's not just cutting hair, it's putting solvents and bleaches and shit on people and sometimes using a blade
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Imagine letting a BIPOC with a blade get close to your head from behind
He was coming right at me and told me to hand over my money, officer! i was fearing for my life!
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Because blacks don't show up and if your whole business caters to blacks exclusively you need to make accommodations for that, financially.
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Yep, in Atlanta all of the black restaurants have mandatory gratuity added and I've never seen that in any white people restaurant here. I assume it's for similar reasons.
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Why not then just accept pay in advance? If they don't show up is their own loss. At a former work we had that you you pay for the booking and if you didn't show up not our fricking problem.
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that's basically what they do, but not payment in full because people won't pay that much in advance when someone else will take just a deposit
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I used to buy drugs from black people and this was my experience. I blamed the weed. But idk if black girls smoke
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Lol.
Lmao.
How the frick is this real? Negronomics are something else, basic economics run into a wall...
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Lovely 'jack
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I've studied the puzzle of poor customer service in black-owned businesses. The thing to understand is the customers act the same way.
You look at the prices charged and think, "Surely some enterprising Vietnamese immigrant can figure out how to do black hair and corner the market?" No, the amount of bullshit you have to put up with from clients is even worse, so you don't bother, even with all the safeguards.
Shaniqua books appointment and pays the deposit. She arrives an hour late, at which point you've taken another client. 'Nique starts to chimp out, demanding you took her now. Traffic, she had to get food for her baby, your location is hard to find. Whatever, you end up taking her, she pays, no tip. Later on you get a charge back because of some minor flaw or it was a stolen credit card.
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If you've ever met a black person you'd know theyd never let a non black person cut their hair. Even if it was way cheaper.
It's cultural to go hang out with black barber's and it's part of the culture to only trust black people who have black hair themselves. Which is dumb obviously cuz anyone could figure it out but no one bothers making that their niche
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The affinity for Black businesses is there, but it is definitely not insurmountable. Black women used to only go to black nail salons to get those crazy long blinged out fingernails, but the Vietnamese have broken into that market. Similarly with some black cuisine. You can often find very good fried chicken in a Chinese restaurant at the intersection of MLK and Malcolm X boulevards, served through a plexiglass barrier.
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This sounds like burger nonsense, you see black bongs in Turkish barbers all the time.
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Turks are negro adjacent
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tbf Turkey is the Asia-Europe-Africa crossroads, they're everywhere adjacent
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Except human and pest control.
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Kara Boga connection.
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Lets be clear, thats just Negro racism...
Makes sense.
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You know, i cant believe I didnt even think of that. Its not like "obese BIPOCettee chimpout" is an empty category on youtube.
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Yeah what type of person would do any of these things on a regular basis, these rules are stupid
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Professionalism is white supremacy
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It's called CPT for a reason
Also who wants to bet on the percentage of these stylists doing house that pay taxes?
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They're reclaiming their reparations by not paying taxes, sweaty.
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Fo real
Try going to Africa or Turkey to see how "professional" those people can get...
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If only there was an invention to condition the air in your car tailored to your needs.
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Poor people can't afford that extra gas
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Or cars with air conditioner
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Actually she was driving a Porsche 911 GT3RS with the AC delete option to save weight
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growing up we usually had no ac in the car so mom gave us ice waters
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I think we're thinking the same thing
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Black people lmao
Also 300 dollar nonrefundable deposit, b-word? Neighbor thats just a fricking fee lol
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I get the impression that alot of black hair stylists are just unskilled women who figure they can do other people's hair in their home for some money. So you get a lot of unprofessional r-slurs that way
In the words of ye
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Back when student loan forgiveness was a thing, there was a report that 99% of cosmologists would qualify. It's not an unskilled job, they do go to a school post-high school, but then they understand the economics behind the career and end up broke because they don't want to work.
Pick the hood of your city on google maps and type in college and you'll see a half-dozen of these cosmetology schools pop up. It's why I was against Biden on loan forgiveness.
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We had a required "transition to trainer" class for my apprenticeship. It was weird having a room full of electricians, plumbers, hvac dinguses, and a handful of cosmetology students
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According to the NBC article, "hair braiding" businesses are generally exempt from the need for a cosmetology license.
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The absolute state of rap
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sweaty, theres an art to making words rhyme when they don't actually rhyme. Some are just better at it than others
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Is "urr" teplacing "eer"/"ure"?
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It was an attempt to make it rhyme with hair
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Darn these bitches are fricking r-slurred lol I can't believe people spend this kind of money
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Ikr I won't pay over 20 for a haircut, these bitches pay $300 for a trim lmao
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I pay $45usd + tip for my hair cuts cuz my barber is the best in town. He gave me the best haircut I've ever gotten, I had multiple people comment, and after that I always go to him. He's got a waiting list and I don't even live in an urban area.
Males underappreciate talent in haircutting. You just need to find the non gay ones who will actually make it look masculine
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Does he shave the Nike swoosh in your fade for free?
You're correct about using a good barber. Lots of dudes go to the giant corporate barbershops to get their hair fricked up for 30 dollars, when they could get it done by a real barber for a few extra bucks
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a lot of dudes go to mastercuts every 2-4 months and get standard issue current year haircut (rn buzzing the sides and trimming the top), but slightly uneven
"yep, I got a fresh haircut im good to go"
it's preferable to having the asmongold haircut ig
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They grease down those baby hairs and it makes their whole face look like an oil pit.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Please don't disrespect black queens in my presence
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Even black queens have bad hair days.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Lives*
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The whole baby hair framing thing was something that mostly necessary for mixed women. The obvious fake baby hair thing looks so out of place.
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Like Jada, most of them destroy their hair follicles with caustic straighteners and go bald. Then they buy wigs harvested from asian children.
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Penny taught me the technical term for this is traction alopecia. If she's not a black woman she sure is an expert in being one.
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Do you understand what the word "traction" means? Traction alopecia comes from wearing braids too tight or some other style that is harshly tugging on the follicles.
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Okay I'm sorry I didn't read the previous comment closely enough to realize it was talking about chemicals. God forbid somebody not be completely vigilant on rDrama.
Look at Marsey. She's cute so don't pay attention to me.
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Free my neighbor penny
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*nikka
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*nyukka
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*white man
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Neighbor I've known about that "technical" term forever and I'm no lmao
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25years of (possible) experience
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It's alopecia! William, go slap that man.
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It's called a fricking WEAVE sweaty
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I love being white, I haven't even gotten my hair cut since last April, this sounds exhausting.
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Jannies we got a white supremacist chudding out outside of chudrama.
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I am not a fricking chud, motherlover! I just couldn't imagine having 4C hair and needing to take care of it. I feel the fricking same way about ugly people, I'm too lazy to wear makeup or get surgeries or whatever so I'm happy to not be ugly.
Note - I am genuinely not saying black people and ugly people are the fricking same I promise
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