Creating jobs is how this historic project gets done.#DYK: this week, we reached a milestone β creating more than 13,000 construction jobs on the United Stateβs first 220 mph #HSR system.
— CA High-Speed Rail ππ¨ (@CaHSRA) March 22, 2024
10,000 of these jobs have come just in the last 5 years! #BuildHSR #FactFriday pic.twitter.com/FoaC6fWrA7
California High-Speed Rail celebrates creating 13,000 jobs (it is 16 years old and has laid 0 miles of track)
https://twitter.com/CaHSRA/status/1771266082294149509
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What do they do all day? 16 years of paperwork? Lol
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America combines the worst aspects of first and third world government. Like the first world, we have onerous regulations, slow political processes, strong community input, strong property rights, and high costs. Like the third world, we have lazy bureaucrats, massive fraud, and a culture of gibs.
The first world can build big projects by throwing armies of talented bureaucrats at the problem. The third world can build big projects by stealing land from peasants and paying laborers $2 a day. America can't do either.
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plus it's California, so we got people screaming about environmental impact, cultural heritage sites in areas no one cared about until now, the line not servicing enough marginalized communities, the line encroaching too much on marginalized communities, not enough BIPOC employed, too many BIPOC people employed in low level positions, just different bullshit that halts construction each time they try and start working.
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You also have wealthy NIMBYs and NIMBYs who've lived there since the 70s and can only live there due to their home being paid off.
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Some of them are fricking off because the taxes are getting too absurd even with houses being paid off.
Some fricker I know moved to Texas and saved 1.3 million in taxes in 4-5 years of moving from SF to whatever the city with the riverwalk is
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Imagine not remembering the Alamo
!texas
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theres this one restaurant there we love. i always fantasize about jumping off the balcony onto the tree then diving into the water
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That's not a restaurant, that's just the Bass Pro Shop
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Just don't think about where the riverwalk water comes from!
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zoz
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and san santonio is not even cheap I had a burger, fries, and a shake there last year it was $25!!
I ate the free stuff at the hotel the rest of the trip reminded me why I will never be a urboid (not that I needed one)
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Because you're poor? Lmao
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your mad I can be poor and a landchad
I'm not playing your game
while you're out hustling i'm neetmaxing and raising birds on gods green earth
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Tfw 500$ acres of land in the middle of nowhere with a creek running through it, simple as
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One of the objections to the lithium mine up in Nevada where the protest movement was sunk by trans-terf infighting was that the site was of cultural significance because it was the location of a battle between whites and natives back in the day. Well find me a place in America where that didn't happen!
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A bee is a fish in California (or something stupid like that), they rewrote some endangered species for fish to classify bees as fish.
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most 3rd world countries suck at building infrastructure. southeast asian cities are dominated by mopeds and mini buses. africa barely has any cities. latin america looks like a ghetto version of the US. if you look up rail projects in these regions a lot of them have huge issues. like a light rail line in addis ababa is falling apart because of poor maintenance (it only opened in 2015).
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And? Better than a 4 seat car for one person. Even space wise
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lol culture of gibs is most certainly a 1st world thing. Welfare just doesn't exist in much of the world.
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no 1st world country has anything on latam. More working age people live from welfare than work and pay taxes in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_income_trap
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leaving them all the time they need to racebait on the internet
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It's a grift to funnel money to companies owned by politicians or friends of politicians.
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It's usually not that direct anymore, it's too obvious. They funnel it to the demographics most likely to support them. There's a reason civil rights apply to women, blacks, and alphabet people, but only extend to white men, religion, individual autonomy in token circumstances. They vote for Democrats and Republicans are too cucked to break it up.
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There's still a "good old boy" network between business and government that has existed for decades. Idpol nonsense merely changes the marketing and hiring practices to a degree. The least competent businesses will get the job because they already meet the ridiculous bureaucratic standards and already know the politicians that float the bids.
No one wants to tackle the regulatory issues that restrict even modest construction because too many benefit from the status quo, and voters are too uninformed too care about it. More voter knowledge won't help because there's still a problem of externalized costs that plagues government projects (regardless of what their hired economists say).
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I work for an industrial electrical company and our guys won't touch any large public works projects with a 10ft pole, they only work for private clients. Everyone tells me that doing anything government related basically relies on you knowing βthe rulesβ and they make it as slow and difficult as possible to get any actual work done. This means all the big taxpayer funded projects go to the same old boys club companies
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I work for the government (not in the US). My department was supposed to move into a new building in 2016. Not even a newly constructed building, but a refurbished one. The building we plan to move into is actually so old that historical protections apply, making everything an even bigger beurocratic disaster.
The contractor to refurbish the building went bankrupt ( ) in 2014 or so. So a new bidding process had to start, due to the contract volume europe-wide. The conditions were so shit (new contractor had to assume warranty for the work done by the old one lmao) that they didnt actually find any contractor willing to do it. Then they realised that the building plan was based on old requirements that have been changed in the decade+ since the original project, so new ones had to be drawn up and approved by the notoriously understaffed and slow-working local building code office. Just that plan adjustment alone took over a year. After that was done, last year i think, a new bidding process could finally start, and last i heard they actually managed to find a company willing to do it.
But the story of course cant end yet. The building is part of a larger "complex" of many public buildings. Due to age and environmental requirements, a new centralised heating plant is being constructed to heat and warm-water supply the entire complex. And our new building has to adhere to new, extremely restrictive requirements for energy efficiency despite being at its core about 100 years old, so fulfilling these requirement is only possible with the new "green" heating plant. The energy efficiency inspection is based on the energy source at the time the inspection is done. So our building cant be finished until after the new heating plant is built and in operation, so work on our new building is completely on hold until that is finished, iirc like 2027. The building has now stood empty as a hollow shell for a decade already, so theres a decent chance a lot of additional stuff needs to be fixed, making it even more expensive and taking even longer. We will literally wait over 2 decades after the plan was made, to move into a building. Some of the people making the move will have been born after the plan was made to move.
The best thing is, despite having literally bottomless pockets, the government doesnt even pay the bills on time.
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That's nice sweaty. Why don't you have a seat in the time out corner with Pizzashill until you calm down, then you can have your Capri Sun.
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This is france isnt it
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The Lower Thames crossing has so far spent 16 years writing 63,000 pages of planning applications, costing Β£800 million and it's still not approved
https://twitter.com/J_D_89/status/1633878906456674304
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!chuds found her!!
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Somehow that's good? Do they not stop and think about how many resources they've wasted? I hate environmentalists so much so much so much.
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i could speed up the construction by a decade just by relieving her off her post wall dry spell
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So so so many environmental reviews
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No joke. We were putting in a tiny upgrade to a water pump station recently and there was a 30 page environmental report on the impact of removing a single tree so that concrete could be laid. This wasn't even a historic or important tree either it was literally just some random ornamental non-native tree that someone had planted there
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All of the things they really should have done before building the Maya Train they're actually doing in California except way way more than they need to.
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There still building bridges and shit.
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i know it's not the same thing but i think we built and opened a few subway lines in the past 16 years in a very urbanised island lol
granted we used a lot of migrant labour but it's not something you guys should be in short supply of
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This will never happen.
1. The government uses construction projects to bribe powerful unions, who then fund their election campaigns.
2. The government sees construction projects as primarily a job creation program, and secondarily a project to construct something. Hence the tweet.
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Why can't we do the honest thing and put these people on the dole?
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I don't really care about rail, but I'm still proud of Florida for dabbing on California by getting a high speed rail project done while being a chudtopia run by DeSatan.
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I fairness that was a private company.
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In 2008 the voters approved a $10B bond via ballot proposition for the high speed rail. By late in Obama's presidency, the project had blown through $3B for "plans and studies" before breaking ground and the budget had swelled to $30B. Obama pledged up to $100B of Federal funds, which seemed to evaporate under Trump, but now our president is also Amtrak's #1 frequent flier.
The problem with a high speed rail in the Central Valley is that if it stops in every po-dunk town, it's not high speed. And if it doesn't, it just serves SF and LA while thundering past flyovers who have to drive 4 hours in the wrong direction to catch the train, and whose land was stolen by imminent domain to build it.
As mentioned already, they brought in some French engineers who quit in disgust and went to work on a project in Africa where the government was more functional. That train is already in service. And, as mentioned, in Florida, they began the Brightline high speed project in 2012 which is currently operating, although with some complaints.
The best part was some justification as the budget swelled (and it's been almost 15 years now, so I don't remember where I saw it) that the project would pay for itself with ridership ticket sales over the next 1000 years
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I'm r-slurred but couldn't they just build slightly slower but still pretty fast trains from small podunk towns to a central area or two that said light rail would make short stops at? And you could centralize it further say if there's 3 podunk towns within 45 min of each other put a station equidistant from each one that then goes to said light rail station. Then it's like an hour commute total presumably to have the ability to be in metro areas and the travel time sees pat for the course for a car driver already living in LA
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They are planning to connect it to existing light rail. When passed, the completion date was 2020 and the cost of $30B was considered astronomical. Now, the first Phase (which must be completed by law before the others start) is that highly sought-after Merced to Bakersfield route that you're all itching to travel; current projected completion 2033. The six-hour drive time between SF and LA could be done in 2.5 hours if the train went straight there, but they have pledged to have 24 stops in the whole San Diego-Sacrarmento system with a travel speed of more like 100mph. Phase 1 (current estimated cost $88B-$127B) will have 5 stops between Merced and Bakersfield:
Brightline West, a privately-constructed LA to Vegas route to be built by the same company that made the one in Florida, is slated to begin this year.
The high speed rail boondoggle is currently the largest construction project in America. By comparison, the former most famous boondoggle (and most expensive highway project ever), the Big Dig in Boston, started in 1982, was supposed to be completed in 1998, didn't finish until 2007, and cost $22B
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Please for the love of God just tear it all down and get the naps here
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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.
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Literately Florida made a less necessary high speed rail and fully completed it in way less time. The only reason California hasn't collapsed is they have the same GDP as India.
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Probably because the one in Florida is privately owned
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Brightline is an upgrade of an existing rail corridor. It's not high speed either.
California is building a new route with higher specs.
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The average dramanaut has laid more pipe than this shitshow has laid track.
Wow. The mind boggles
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SPAL pumping those numbers up singlehandedly
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Somebody with twitter should Community Note it and mention the fact about zeromiles LOL
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It's not about creating jobs it's about creating a low-cost means of travel. The green energy industry tries the same spin with their boondoggles
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if that were true, there would be fewer jobs and more travel ... ergo it's a jobs and grift thing
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High Sneed Rail is a meme.
It'll cost more than car or on longer distances plane, the goal shouldn't be to serve longer distance but less frequent routes, but daily commute.
Priority should be getting every town/city above 50k a solid commuter transport.
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Im glad i left california, nothing to be proud of sadly
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sad story. should be the best state by far but ends up being one of the worst
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People get what they voted for, the state is at the image of its inhabitants.
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They voted against gay marriage in 2008. They deserve to fall into the ocean just for that.
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Me and the other geniuses cackle everytime you start posting in anticipation of another banger
Snapshots:
https://twitter.com/CaHSRA/status/1771266082294149509:
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archive.ph (click to archive)
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