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Aaaannnnd it's locked with half the comments deleted: https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1botwdo/youth_curfew_announced_for_alice_springs_cbd_amid/
reposting mine here:
We have not been able to address these issues with any real honesty or integrity to treat Indigenous children like other Australian citizens
If these children were treated like other Australian citizens, they would have been removed from a dangerous home. But that can't happen because err-my-gahd-stolen-generation.
Looks like /u/dredd realised someone's been thinking independently in his little fiefdom. And if it wasn't you mate? Control your fricking mod team - they're worse than ACMA.
Can someone explain what is going on? And why is this a thing in Alice Spring everyday?
It's a city full of ignorant people. The government gives them money and they drink alcohol and get drunk. It's one of the places you'll never go to in Australia, a place I personally wouldn't consider going either. Watch "Spanian - Alice Springs" on YouTube to see what kind of place it is.
The y'alled thread has a surprising amount of based comments that haven't been mopped:
Same, spent ten years in WA and NT in exploration mining and rebuilding aboriginal buildings.
Can't even talk to the family about aboriginal affairs because they think aboriginals can do no wrong. The shit I saw in Tennant Creek and the Pilbara is mind blowing. My family has the hide tell me all about how bad the communities have it when they've never been with in cooee of a community.
What's happening out there is fricked, I spend a fair bit of time in Aboriginal communities and outback towns (Alice and Coober pedy regularly), and it's no joke worse than pretty much every third world country I've been to.
You'll gain a pretty grim outlook on it, and probably come back slightly racist (that's not a dig, just a reality of what's going on out there)
I don't have the long term solution, but there needs to be much heavier police presence in the larger towns than there is currently to keep people safe in the short term. A youth curfew is going to do less than nothing there.
Spent 2 years in coober, never again. constantly going out to places like Oodnadatta, Williams creek and other areas I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
The sheer Violence of it.
Watched an Indigenous fellow beat the snot out of his missus at the servo then attempt to set fire to her and the car.
while on the way to check on the work yard one night another indigenous fellow set fire to the police station (which had people in it) I saw it happen as I was coming back home I then had to ring the station and let them know.
and that is just two small instance's of many that I witnessed
that shithole is the absolute wild west of Australia and they have the largest contingent of police outside of Adelaide iirc
Something needs to happen in Alice Springs though, they cleaned it up for like 3 days when Albo went to visit a year or two ago to make it seem like it's not as bad but that's just standard rug sweeping for a pollie visit.
Yeah, this is pretty much spot on.
Can't really blame the NT Police for doing what some of the community, and their bosses, demanded - disengage, don't act, and don't prevent.
It's a shame the communities that actually deal with the consequences of those calls have to cop it, but hey, frick all cops, right Sydney and Melbourne?
I think Sydney and Melbourne people are all living in their tight leftist million dollar houses with no understanding of the real suffering of the world.
Don't worry, they'll acknowledge the traditional owners of the land at the beginning of their meetings , pay respects to elders past present and emerging and pat themselves on the back and all the problems will be solved.
I did close to 20 years working in communities, part of which was in a criminal justice role. I feel nothing but respect for Aboriginal people collectively and recognise the racism and discrimination these communities experience daily. I saw some terrible things but it was a select few, not a majority. These communities have the highest suicide rates in the country and no one steps in, its only when violence crosses over to white businesses that people start caring.
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Is this specially for when abos chimp out?
The top comment in the main sub has a great moment of clarity.
Reality has a !chuds bias.
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Bring back the Stolen Generation
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Honestly... kind of.
Child's services here literally cannot put Indigenous kids with White foster parents. It's all supposed to be kinship i.e. a relative or close member of the mob/tribe to maintain a cultural connection (which is seen as more important than these kids not being abused). The problem is, is that usually they're placed with the person that abused their parents (i.e. a grandfather or Uncle) and the abuse perpetuates solving literally no problems at all because then the kid grows up all fricked, uneducated, and basically no prospects.
No one will admit that it would actually be better in a lot of these cases to remove the kids from their family and place them in a stable home because that's seen as code for 'white' home and that has echos of the Stolen Generation. Indigenous kids must keep being fed into the meat grinder because to do anything actually helpful would be racist.
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Sort of like the saying that a liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet.
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And every kid is a communist before they get their first paycheck.
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This is all whypipo's fault, sweaty
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