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Aaaannnnd it's locked with half the comments deleted: https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1botwdo/youth_curfew_announced_for_alice_springs_cbd_amid/?sort=controversial
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We have not been able to address these issues with any real honesty or integrity to treat Indigenous children like other Australian citizens
If these children were treated like other Australian citizens, they would have been removed from a dangerous home. But that can't happen because err-my-gahd-stolen-generation.
Looks like /u/dredd realised someone's been thinking independently in his little fiefdom. And if it wasn't you mate? Control your fricking mod team - they're worse than ACMA.
Can someone explain what is going on? And why is this a thing in Alice Spring everyday?
It's a city full of ignorant people. The government gives them money and they drink alcohol and get drunk. It's one of the places you'll never go to in Australia, a place I personally wouldn't consider going either. Watch "Spanian - Alice Springs" on YouTube to see what kind of place it is.
The y'alled thread has a surprising amount of based comments that haven't been mopped:
Same, spent ten years in WA and NT in exploration mining and rebuilding aboriginal buildings.
Can't even talk to the family about aboriginal affairs because they think aboriginals can do no wrong. The shit I saw in Tennant Creek and the Pilbara is mind blowing. My family has the hide tell me all about how bad the communities have it when they've never been with in cooee of a community.
What's happening out there is fricked, I spend a fair bit of time in Aboriginal communities and outback towns (Alice and Coober pedy regularly), and it's no joke worse than pretty much every third world country I've been to.
You'll gain a pretty grim outlook on it, and probably come back slightly racist (that's not a dig, just a reality of what's going on out there)
I don't have the long term solution, but there needs to be much heavier police presence in the larger towns than there is currently to keep people safe in the short term. A youth curfew is going to do less than nothing there.
Spent 2 years in coober, never again. constantly going out to places like Oodnadatta, Williams creek and other areas I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
The sheer Violence of it.
Watched an Indigenous fellow beat the snot out of his missus at the servo then attempt to set fire to her and the car.
while on the way to check on the work yard one night another indigenous fellow set fire to the police station (which had people in it) I saw it happen as I was coming back home I then had to ring the station and let them know.
and that is just two small instance's of many that I witnessed
that shithole is the absolute wild west of Australia and they have the largest contingent of police outside of Adelaide iirc
Something needs to happen in Alice Springs though, they cleaned it up for like 3 days when Albo went to visit a year or two ago to make it seem like it's not as bad but that's just standard rug sweeping for a pollie visit.
Yeah, this is pretty much spot on.
Can't really blame the NT Police for doing what some of the community, and their bosses, demanded - disengage, don't act, and don't prevent.
It's a shame the communities that actually deal with the consequences of those calls have to cop it, but hey, frick all cops, right Sydney and Melbourne?
I think Sydney and Melbourne people are all living in their tight leftist million dollar houses with no understanding of the real suffering of the world.
Don't worry, they'll acknowledge the traditional owners of the land at the beginning of their meetings , pay respects to elders past present and emerging and pat themselves on the back and all the problems will be solved.
I did close to 20 years working in communities, part of which was in a criminal justice role. I feel nothing but respect for Aboriginal people collectively and recognise the racism and discrimination these communities experience daily. I saw some terrible things but it was a select few, not a majority. These communities have the highest suicide rates in the country and no one steps in, its only when violence crosses over to white businesses that people start caring.
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Is this specially for when abos chimp out?
The top comment in the main sub has a great moment of clarity.
Reality has a !chuds bias.
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Sort of like the saying that a liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet.
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And every kid is a communist before they get their first paycheck.
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Bring back the Stolen Generation
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Honestly... kind of.
Child's services here literally cannot put Indigenous kids with White foster parents. It's all supposed to be kinship i.e. a relative or close member of the mob/tribe to maintain a cultural connection (which is seen as more important than these kids not being abused). The problem is, is that usually they're placed with the person that abused their parents (i.e. a grandfather or Uncle) and the abuse perpetuates solving literally no problems at all because then the kid grows up all fricked, uneducated, and basically no prospects.
No one will admit that it would actually be better in a lot of these cases to remove the kids from their family and place them in a stable home because that's seen as code for 'white' home and that has echos of the Stolen Generation. Indigenous kids must keep being fed into the meat grinder because to do anything actually helpful would be racist.
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Australians are stuck between a rock and a hard place of acknowledging that there was some legitimately fricked up shit with abos in the past and acknowledging there was some merit to it.
Maybe stealing children and putting them with wypipo who had no investment in seeing them succeed was bad, but so is letting them sniff petrol and r*pe people.
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OTOH if white flight happens for long enough eventually you end up with a bantustan and the problem has solved itself. They want to live in the 12th century, let 'em. It's what happens to gypsies in Europe, who cares?
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That's pretty much what extremely rural communities are like already. There's no law, no productivity, and living conditions are on par with an 18th century village.
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This is all whypipo's fault, sweaty
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Why do abbos all over the world have a drinking problem? My mom worked in an aboriginal town in northern Canada and in order to get alcohol there you have to get approved by a council first, and even then you can only buy a limited amount. Despite that, people going on two-week benders and abandoning their kids is an extremely common occurrence, and basically no one there has a job or runs a business (they just live off gibs I guess).
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LOL
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Canadian first nations run most things through
corrupttribal councils, from alcohol distribution, to welfare proceeds, to banning men that frick white woman from living on the 'rezJump in the discussion.
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The Canadian supreme court and the ministry for Indian affair basically said "well we aren't too keen on the hitlerian racial purity laws but the nations are sovereign so what can we do
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What they can do is declare war
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My sister in law's cousin (mayo foid) has two kids with a full blooded injun and those two kids get gibs from the tribe. I know her family pretty much says that she married him for the benefits because she's the type that has never had a job in her life and likes to milk gibs from her kids.
This is in the US tho.
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This is like the opposite of the one drop rule, lmaooooooooo
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Sounds funny, but the amount of corruption and white guilt Canadians have about natives are insane. Places like Manitoba for example are an absolute dumpster fire for this kinda stuff. Natives literally have a separate lenient justice system and set of laws that apply to them and you can literally get away with murder in some cases (only a slight exaggeration). Alcohol issues are out of control and because they get so much gibs they don't have to work, so combine that with boredom abuse becomes common. It's "racist" to do anything about it which perpetuates the cycle of shittiness.
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I think everyone got how insane it was just from the dead children tree roots.
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Iirc genetic predisposition to alchoolism + insane rates of depression and child abuse + there's literally nothing to do as they are paid to idle without jobs
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Europeans were like this too 500 years ago. When they first started distilling alcohol lots of people just drank themselves to death. So over the centuries mayos evolved to lose some of the alkie genes.
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Funny how there IS a genetic basis for behaviour when it's convenient
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Wtf it's literally
him
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He's the OG chud
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Craze
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And before that basically every culture outside of Australia and the americas had alcohol in some form for thousands of years. So you have cultures that went from no booze or at best very weak booze (I think Central Americans had something like this) to suddenly being in the middle of trade routes for rum.
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Some dumb 1/3 inner city journo activist b-word was posting on twitter it's the fault of the colonisers and shit lol why they're all getting drunk and doing crime, because they're fighting back according to her. She deleted her twitter because she was getting roasted. Wanted to post it here.
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is this some "the voice" protest
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Nah this is standard Alice Springs Aboriginal behaviour
Fun fact, they have an annual tradition called the "Henley on the Todd" where folx run fake boats across the dry river in what is essentially a sprint race. When I attended most competitors treated it with the levity it deserved, making ridiculous looking boats to carry across the Todd to have fun. All except the Aboriginal delegation, whose """boat""" was some sticks with fabric hanging off it.
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They probably just didn't figure out what a boat is yet
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interesting lmao
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These kids rama rama cos they got no voice to parliament
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I think its a standard abo chimpout, no mention of the voice
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Not alice springs but Spanian visiting Darwin was pretty funny. This guy spent 10 years in prison for stabbing a dude in the neck and even he was wondering wtf was wrong with the place
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just like when a sinkie wanders into Yishun
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Explain this esoteric racisim
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sinkie = slang for Singaporean
Yishun = a neighbourhood that's stereotyped to contain the crazy Singaporeans lol
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Also is it that weird to have a pet crow? I wish I had a crow buddy.
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Hmm not really I guess but they're considered pests here
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So it's like the Disneyland version of the rough part of any major city, anywhere outside of about 6 countries?
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Lol I guess so
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!chuds, look at Australia's finest specimens!
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Most of Australia is blind to this shit, to them in their nice shitlib suburbs, the rest of Australia is the exact same. Plus the news don't like to cover this type of stuff, because that would make them racist and they would create chuds.
Plus if people take matters into their hands due to a lack of action, they will get dog piled by the aboriginals, government and activist class. The inevitable path is it becoming a Mad Max wasteland, because the government is afraid to take action in case they look racist. They will throw money at it, and they will erect houses for them, then within months they will be destroyed.
I only hope the decent locals get the frick out when they can, because it's over, and it will never recover. Just let them have it.
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Can't help but notice there's like 0 Abbos in Mad Max so maybe it's ain't so bad
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No this is the future Australia wants
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China will take over.
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was it the cops or security guards? because the
s did arrest them
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Didn't watch it all. Ive seen too much of that nonsense on a regular basis.
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the last time BIPOCs behaved like that here they cut the alcohol hours for EVERYONE lol
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To be fair, here's where Alice Springs is in Australia. I'm not sure I'd be able to spend more than a few months there without starting to want to beat the shit out of things.
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Why do all natives turn into drunken losers? Your ancestors got their asses kicked and land stolen so what? Stop being a b-word and man up.
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They are too primitive intellectually to really do anything
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Most hunter-gatherers people spent their lives being nomads, and as animists, hallucinating about sky spirits when idle.
Then euros came over, chased them off or secluded them to shitcreeks with borders and taxes and jurisdictions and ownerships, where they ended up with nothing to hunt, nowhere to go and only free time to kill. Which they realized could be killed easily with that shit euros sold by the gallons.
And bonus points as the booze helped them hallucinate like no tomorrow which they percieved to be a gateway to the otherworld.
When Uncle Ted
said the industrial revolution and its consequences was a disaster for the human race, he wasn't thinking of some dipshit teenager having to wake up in the morning to go to his mcjob 
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He was thinking about the hundreds of tribes that had achieved retvrn to monke and were perfectly fine until they had their 50k year streak destroyed in a generation by the Eternal Brit
Fast forward today, the damage has never truly been fixed. And I suspect every government to be shills for Big Booze considering how many seem convinced giving them free cash and a liquor store right outside their rez is a viable solution.
For this reason, I dont hold contempt for injuns, abbos, mongols or papus. I hold pity
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That's nice sweaty. Why don't you have a seat in the time out corner with Pizzashill until you calm down, then you can have your Capri Sun.
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Huh, the lettercount got reduced
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No, still 10k.
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Ressentiment - being defeated, being bitter about it, but unable to free/avenge yourself.
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All those rednecks had their ancestors asses kicked and they aren't as pathetic.
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Eh... they're close though, [gestures vaguely at northern Florida].
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Ugh the spanian thing is an hour long
Edit: it's the usual YouTuber shit. 55 minutes of fist-bumping locals, 30 seconds of blurred chaos and selfie-camera "this is crazy!"
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!strayans
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This is tame for Alice lol
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How are Australians real
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Many of the place names are native, same as everywhere else. The Australian ones are just a different kind of native that's weirder, but more fun to say.
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the ooga boogaing has begun
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Crikey!
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aboriginals are the real jews, go FRICK yourself for being racist
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So White Australians are Palestinians?
Based
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Snapshots:
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Can someone explain what is going on? And why is this a thing in Alice Spring everyday?:
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My sister and I can't see eye to eye over the issue. I've been out there and seen reality. She's a city dwelling ‘don't be racist' type. I just wish she would travel and see/experience the hard truth. Shits fricked. No easy solution. But turning a blind eye isn't the answer either.:
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I really wish everyone in Aus could go spend some significant time in Aboriginal communities, and some of the outback towns (Alice Springs, Kalgoorlie, coober pedy etc).:
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If you go after the police when they rightfully do their jobs (disregarding that particular officers personal views and beliefs) then police will be less inclined to fully enforce the law for fears of similar witch hunts.:
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All the people I know who worked in remote communities came back slightly more racist, ashamed of the fact they were but not willing to say it was wrong.:
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