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It is allowed. Most people usually ask for 3 months to a year. You can negotiate, but if you don't pay they can stop paying rent and frick you (-9)
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This is very sane advice. I am some emotional addendum. OP said they are not in a financial situation where they can't afford to pay 25k. If this is correct, then OP should absolutely take this to court and let the tenant drag it out. Even if it takes a year, they are still going to get the rent. If the tenant stops paying rent, then OP can file for no rent payment eviction which is faster than the N12 ones.Edit: to all those coming in and saying that OP can so they should, I understand that OP can. I understand the double negative. But just because OP can pay money doesn't mean they should! If they have the money they should keep it and fight the leeches. (102)
Guaranteed this is an action in bad faith as most are nowadays. Mom and Pop landlord are over leveraged trying to remove current tenants to increase the rent. Many Gambled in real estate and are now going to lose. (-9)
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Using your rights to stay in your home isn't screwing with anybody. LL is forcing tenant to uproot their lives. The LL poor financial condition is not the tenants responsibility. I hate how much our society revolves around making other innocent people pay for LL mistakes. (2)
It's not "their home". It does not belong to them. (-8)
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Just say no. But keep all your documentation. It might take you a while to get them out, but this is a business, and things happen in a business. It's unfortunate that this province has allowed the N12 scam situation to get so out of control. It leaves both tenants and honest landlords holding the bag.(And before anyone jumps down my throat, it's also unfortunate that the federal government hasn't tackled the problem of criminal rent cheats. Both tenants and landlords would benefit from some reasonable process in the Criminal Code to charge rent scoffs with criminal fraud.) (2)
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You say this is โunfairโ, mentioning your own financial issues, but fail to even acknowledge that YOU will impose financial hardship on the tenants. Renting below current rate is not a favour / gift. They're simply paying the rate based on where they started living there. This is why tenants have no more empathy towards landlords. The lack of consideration LL have for tenants is really troubling. That being said. If you follow the rules, you can file to LTB, get a hearing in 6-8 months, and have them evicted. Cash for keys is a way for them to compensate the higher rent they'll have to pay and moving costs. 20k is more on the higher side, for sure, but that's only 18 months of rent difference if you think about it. (0)
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As of right now, there is no indication that OP's tenant will stop paying rent, so a faster L1 eviction is not an option. By 'uncooperative', I meant someone that was prepared to drag out the process, for example by requesting a review of the original hearing or even appealing to the Divisional Court, and by coming up with plausible (but not necessarily true) reasons for delaying the eviction based on RTA s.83, which forces the Board to consider potential hardship to the tenant. (2)
Oh ohkay but I would still recommend OP for cash for keysIt saves time and peace..Investment(Renting business)comes with risk so the the LL should do that and if you cnt handle the stress it's not worth Renting..This recession many LL will learn that.. because the expect tenant to pay there rents and housing prices went to moon.Poor governing policy and poor decision by pumping the real estate so prop the economy (0)
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Cash for Keys is the funniest shit ever to explain to internet communists because they straight up deny it exists.
For those confused evicting someone in third world countries is extremely costly and lengthy, so there's an entire accounting item dedicated to expenses related to โliterally paying your delinquent tenants a five figure number to get them to leave so you can start renting again.โ
When I worked for a Section 8 slumlord I had a great time explaining to my college grad assistant โyeah if they're six months back we just pay them $10k and they frick off and that's it.โ
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Wait that sounds like a legit business plan. Sign 4-5 leases, never pay, collect $50k after 6 months, rinse repeat.
$100k/year no taxes, free housing
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Read the post, these landlords made a website to tattle
https://openroom.ca/
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That's why wise locations like Portland now require landlords to accept the first application that passes
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"I don't understand, we keep passing laws to financially screw landlords and they just keep raising our rent."
Progressives' aggressive denial of the existence of economics and power of incentives is unironically one of the most destructive forces to cities in America.
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Who needs economics and incentives when you're on the right side of history
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That's beyond cucked
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I have rented and i rent out. Never even seen a application
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u got the right amount of melanin for it bb
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How do you figure? That's income, pay up.
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Not if you demand it in cash
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It will probably still get reported.
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Just don't pay your taxes, then demand $10k from the IRS after 6 months
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Fun fact, you (and the landlord) can deduct extortion payments from federal taxes
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Solid plan.
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What are they going to do? Get you at your fake address?
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That is some syrup for brains leafcuck shit.
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Can't you just kick them out after the yearly lease expires?
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No I don't think so.
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what do you mean? what happens after the lease expires and you don't renew it? and Tell them to move out when it expires?
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You're missing the point. You can tell them to move out, but they can just refuse. You can evict them, but they've made eviction proceedings take several months. Hypothetically you can probably obtain a judgment against them for the missing rent (they won't be paying you during this time) but then you've gotta collect on their asses - realistically you won't get much, certainly not the full value.
So they've decided its easier to just pay them a lump sum that's less than what the missing rent would be and wipe their hands of it early.
This wouldn't be a thing if evictions didn't take fricking ages to process. Plus there are seasonal restrictions too - I'm pretty certain you can't evict people here in winter for example.
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I'm sorry I didn't know this level of cucked was even possible
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Yeah it's insane. You can issue a notice of eviction the instant the rent isn't paid but to get a sheriff to evict anyone forcibly takes over a year. Tenants are aware of this and lots go decades without actually paying rent. They move in, get "evicted" in 2 months and then stay for years.
If you do anything to get your property back you will face severe and immediate consequences.
When I had delinquent tenants I would antagonize them by showing up with a realtor unannounced and just barging in.
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Canada fricking sucks for landlords. Everyone I know is constantly bitching about them but I don't think they realize the impact rent control and the inability to evict bad tenants has on the rental market. I would never be a landlord in Canada, you're one bad tenant away from disaster
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Fr fr
There is absolutely no incentive to start a business of any kind here. Every single industry is rigged and crooked
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I sure wonder if that has any causal influence on the high cost of housing
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How much do you think this plays into rent prices? Presumably the remaining landlords have to "price in" all this kind of nonsense, and therefore charge much higher rents since some of the tenants might not be paying them.
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Last time I had to kick out a tenant I told them you have 3 months to vacate before my cousin moves in. They were so grateful I gave them 3 months and thanked me profusely
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Is that legal there? I think here you need to give at least 24 hours notice before you can show the property.
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Months? in my country it can easily last years and if they have a minor you're fricked until the little shit its 18, and given that most squatters are trash that 18yo is gonna have a kid by then.
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Lmao what do you think an eviction is?
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Probably but
A) you usually don't want to wait that long
B) you want them out ASAP after they find out you're binning them
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That's how basically all severance pay works, you get your [month to six months depending on your contract] paid upfront, and then you frick off that day so you aren't half-butting your work knowing you're getting fired at the end of the week or doing anything malicious.
Then again they're communists, so they would also need to be explained the concept of "gainful employment"
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Severance pay typically has a different function. To receive it, you usually need to sign a contract that prevents you from being able to sue your employer. Many also include non-disparagement clauses which I find funny.
It's not just a payment to frick off. It's a payment to frick off and not get the courts involved.
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If landlords don't like it they could always stop being rent seekers and sell their property to a nice trad couple who wants to have a family.
But they won't because they still make fricktons of money.
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Brb reducing rent for couples in my properties depending on how many kids they have.
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Make sure to increase rent for single mothers to cover the losses
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And on gay couples (them adopting a intercourse slave doesn't count as family)
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I remember when I was a kid a guy sent a ground of bikers round to convince a renter (who had a terribly failed grow op) to leave. Was talk of the town for like a month
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seems easy
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Ctrl+F โbad faithโ and โgood faithโ have in that thread lmao. There's like fifty different comments using one of those phrases.
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The things I would do to redditors if given the chance, you people would not believe me
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The world would be better off with 70-85% of them in camps.
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And the rest gassed
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TRD
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@_sus say this as a feminist ally
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I hate renters and I hate rent seekers and speculators.
I hope the renthogs become homeless and I hope the landlords fail and have to sell at a loss.
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This is the dumbest group to seethe about. It's literally just people/organizations who invest on the (shocking) expectation that their investment will yield more money over time.
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Nah,
@D is right
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I'm a hater. What can I say?
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NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO MAKE A PROFIT EVER!
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I don't care what you're trying to do. I hate you for it. I'd hate you if you were giving the house away for free.
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renting apartments should be illegal and @_sus say this as a feminist ally
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I should
judt go to a house 
in Canada 
and not leave 
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$25,000 can buy you a lot of ammunition, fyi
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Oh boy so they can load it 5 rounds at a time
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Every time I see the argument of "you did me a favor and now I'm reliant on you so if you stop offering this favor you are hurting me and that is wrong" I seethe.
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Goddarn and I thought our tenancy laws are cucked.
The one time I had a really shitty tenant I just gave him 6 months and moved my own official residency there.
Had to 'live' there for 2 years but nobody ever checked up on that and I just rented it out through airbnb.
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โI am not financially incapable of providing this much moneyโ
โฆWHAT THE FRICK DOES THIS MEAN???
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It means Trump has the money to pay the bond.
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He can pay but doesn't want to lol
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Snapshots:
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It is allowed. Most people usually ask for 3 months to a year. You can negotiate, but if you don't pay they can stop paying rent and frick you:
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Guaranteed this is an action in bad faith as most are nowadays. Mom and Pop landlord are over leveraged trying to remove current tenants to increase the rent. Many Gambled in real estate and are now going to lose.:
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It's not "their home". It does not belong to them.:
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Just say no. But keep all your documentation. It might take you a while to get them out, but this is a business, and things happen in a business. It's unfortunate that this province has allowed the N12 scam situation to get so out of control. It leaves both tenants and honest landlords holding the bag.(And before anyone jumps down my throat, it's also unfortunate that the federal government hasn't tackled the problem of criminal rent cheats. Both tenants and landlords would benefit from some reasonable process in the Criminal Code to charge rent scoffs with criminal fraud.):
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You say this is โunfairโ, mentioning your own financial issues, but fail to even acknowledge that YOU will impose financial hardship on the tenants. Renting below current rate is not a favour / gift. They're simply paying the rate based on where they started living there. This is why tenants have no more empathy towards landlords. The lack of consideration LL have for tenants is really troubling. That being said. If you follow the rules, you can file to LTB, get a hearing in 6-8 months, and have them evicted. Cash for keys is a way for them to compensate the higher rent they'll have to pay and moving costs. 20k is more on the higher side, for sure, but that's only 18 months of rent difference if you think about it.:
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Oh ohkay but I would still recommend OP for cash for keysIt saves time and peace..Investment(Renting business)comes with risk so the the LL should do that and if you cnt handle the stress it's not worth Renting..This recession many LL will learn that.. because the expect tenant to pay there rents and housing prices went to moon.Poor governing policy and poor decision by pumping the real estate so prop the economy:
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