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Durov (Telegram) blows another hole in Signal's security.

https://t.me/durov/274

🤫 A story :marseyslime: shared by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, uncovered that the current leaders of Signal, an allegedly “secure” messaging :marseytelegram: app, are activists used by the US state :marseycoonass: department for regime change abroad 🥷

https://x.com/jack/status/1787895769183268948

https://www.city-journal.org/article/signals-katherine-maher-problem

🥸 The US government spent $3M to build :marseyyarn: Signal's encryption, and today :marseyclueless: the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google :marseygetgle: Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build :marseyikea: its own encryption protocols that would :marseymid: be independent of government interference 🐕‍🦺

🕵️‍♂️ An alarming number of important people I've spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt :marseybruh2: about their encryption, Signal's typical response is “we are open source :marseymissing2: so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick :marseyflareon: 🤡

🕵️‍♂️ Unlike Telegram, Signal doesn't allow researchers to make sure that their GitHub code is the same code that is used in the Signal app run on users' iPhones. Signal refused to add reproducible builds for iOS, closing a GitHub request from the community. And WhatsApp doesn't even publish the code of its apps, so all their talk about “privacy” is an even more obvious :marseyoctopus4: circus :marseycryingclown: trick💤

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/641

🛡 Telegram is the only massively popular messaging :marseytelegram: service :marseygreytide: that allows everyone :marseynorm: to make sure that all of its apps indeed use the same open source :marseymissing2: code that is published on Github. For the past ten years, Telegram Secret :marseyglow: Chats have remained the only popular method of communication that is verifiably private 💪

https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds

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Whatever the merits of such efforts, the claim—if true—suggests

!r-slurs peak journotism

"okay it might not be true BUT COULD YOU IMAGINE!" :marseysoylentgrin:

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Tech journocide long overdue.

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Did you have breakfast :marseywaffle: this morning?

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yes but not yesterday and I'm still hungry

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How would you feel if you skipped breakfast today?

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If you did not have breakfast :marseyheinzbeans: yesterday but did the day before :marseyskellington: how would :marseywood: you feel about not having breakfast :marseywaffle: tomorrow

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https://media.giphy.com/media/9O14ggFUvrlDkMeHUw/giphy.webp

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Famished.

:marseysad:

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horny

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Ape

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banan

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>zigger glowie app accuses every competing app of being glowies

:#siren: :#marseygigaretard: :#si!ren:

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the point about reproducible builds is a valid though.

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It's neat that there is a convention for demonstrating the fact and hilarious that any security focused app wouldn't do so

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Read the issue. Apple makes it basically impossible because they change a bunch of random shit from the submitted app to the one you actually download. Notably, they add their own drm, which requires a jailbroken device to reverse.

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And yet telegram finds a way, or signal has an excuse for android as well, or the entire article is bullshit and I completely wasted my time

I know which one I believe

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God i love seeing how fricking r-slurred some of you are when you talk about things which you have no possibility of understanding. :marseybrainlet:

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Signal (US state department asset) and Telegram (Russian asset) have been fighting each other like this from the beginning.

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I stand with my feds :marseysaluteusa:

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If you aren't trading one-time pads on physical paper, then your messages are not secure.

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I use Morse code during gay s*x

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Based

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I'm calling bullshit on all this. There's a lot of "trust me bro" and the only supporting article is a rant about how a Signal board member is too woke

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you think Meta uses Signal protocol without having backdoors?

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I trust zuckerberg 100% and so should you

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The backdoor is knowing the key you rslur

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Really funny coming from an app relying on some homemade crypto with an history of backdoors.

https://words.filippo.io/dispatches/telegram-ecdh/

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You should just accept the fact that none of them are secure from governments. Maybe if you send encrypted messages over tor from a laptop connected to your local mcdonald's wifi you might have some level of anonymity but anything less than that and you're potentially identifiable.

You also shouldn't really care whether the government can read your messages because they don't really give a frick about your :!marseytrain: porn picture exchange group or whatever you're stressing about. Unless you're doing relatively high level terrorist group stuff no one's gonna bother you. You're not that important.

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telegramchads can't stop winning :#marseywinner:

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I literally only use it for everything. I've got every person I know on it now

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Get a load of Maxwell Smart over here

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:#marseycomradecrytalkingtyping:

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Use Matrix, incel

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DAEK that the TOR project :marseynoyouzoom: is funded by le feds????

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Can someone just please recommend me a way to share :marseyunibombersaint: memes with my wife without the fear that some :marseyglow: is gonna put us on a list?

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WhatsApp. It's E2E encrypted but normies use it so you won't get on a list just for installing it.

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Signal. The complaints leave out a lot of context as if the guy is just trying to get more telegram users.

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I'm not qualified to evaluate the security, but Signal is Moxie Marlinspike who is cute and weird and :marseywould:, Telegram is some shady Ruskies who rolled their own crypto. Reproducible builds are nice and w/e but it doesn't matter if it's backdoored at the source.

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I live my life with the assumption that every single site and app I use are bugged to heck and back by both feds and all the corpos in the world and that internet privacy is just a feel good delusion.

But I also have a very boring life and no fed would care about me, either domestic or foreign. Best defence against feds isn't some technology or protocol, is simply being a normie :marseyshrug:

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Yes?

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I want you to know you are my friend.

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Frick off. Everyone can just frick off

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You know telegram is only secure one becouse its is where all pirated OF porn is found.

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Yup, concerning

:#!marseyelonmusk:

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I advise jannies and admiggers people to familiarize themselves with some points about the rdrama posters ( dramneurodivergents) before rushing into anything.

  • They don't follow your movies and TV shows at all, but post about them obsessively.

  • They are very bothered by your media or social media distractions.

  • Psychological warfare is utterly useless against them.

  • They are natural-born shitposters, really, no kidding.

  • Their life goal since childhood has been to farm updoots.

  • The last will and testament passed down from their ancestors is to document Penny Oaken.

  • At the very least, they have 4 to 5 messageboards of posting experience in various domains.

  • They have all written and recorded their tranifestos in both audio and video formats.

  • The martyrdom of one of them is a tremendous source of pride for their children, family, village, province, and country.

  • Their longposters passionately glorify chuddery more than any love, flirtation, or romance poetry.

  • They all obey their leader, Carpdul-Malik Badr al-Din al-Aevann, with absolute obedience.

  • Their only fear is the punishment and wrath of reddit admins if they fail to support their latest unfunny bait sub.

  • They love bussy as much as you love life, if not more.

Snapshots:

https://t.me/durov/274:

https://x.com/jack/status/1787895769183268948:

https://www.city-journal.org/article/signals-katherine-maher-problem:

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/641:

https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds:

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