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Durov (Telegram) blows another hole in Signal's security.

https://t.me/durov/274

🀫 A story :marseyslime: shared by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, uncovered that the current leaders of Signal, an allegedly β€œsecure” messaging :marseytelegram: app, are activists used by the US state :marseycoonass: department for regime change abroad πŸ₯·

https://x.com/jack/status/1787895769183268948

https://www.city-journal.org/article/signals-katherine-maher-problem

πŸ₯Έ The US government spent $3M to build :marseyyarn: Signal's encryption, and today :marseyclueless: the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google :marseygetgle: Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build :marseyikea: its own encryption protocols that would :marseymid: be independent of government interference πŸ•β€πŸ¦Ί

πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ An alarming number of important people I've spoken to remarked that their β€œprivate” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt :marseybruh2: about their encryption, Signal's typical response is β€œwe are open source :marseymissing2: so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick :marseyflareon: 🀑

πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ Unlike Telegram, Signal doesn't allow researchers to make sure that their GitHub code is the same code that is used in the Signal app run on users' iPhones. Signal refused to add reproducible builds for iOS, closing a GitHub request from the community. And WhatsApp doesn't even publish the code of its apps, so all their talk about β€œprivacy” is an even more obvious :marseyoctopus4: circus :marseycryingclown: trickπŸ’€

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/641

πŸ›‘ Telegram is the only massively popular messaging :marseytelegram: service :marseygreytide: that allows everyone :marseynorm: to make sure that all of its apps indeed use the same open source :marseymissing2: code that is published on Github. For the past ten years, Telegram Secret :marseyglow: Chats have remained the only popular method of communication that is verifiably private πŸ’ͺ

https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds

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I'm not qualified to evaluate the security, but Signal is Moxie Marlinspike who is cute and weird and :marseywould:, Telegram is some shady Ruskies who rolled their own crypto. Reproducible builds are nice and w/e but it doesn't matter if it's backdoored at the source.

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I live my life with the assumption that every single site and app I use are bugged to heck and back by both feds and all the corpos in the world and that internet privacy is just a feel good delusion.

But I also have a very boring life and no fed would care about me, either domestic or foreign. Best defence against feds isn't some technology or protocol, is simply being a normie :marseyshrug:

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