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Turns out people like money, and don't like a portion of every paycheck given to some limp wristed cute twink telling them they need to vote blue.

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Come to think of it I wonder how much damage unions did to themselves by aligning themselves with broadly left-wing politics (anything from big-d Democrats to proper communists)... Like, why would an Alabama factory worker pay money(!) to sign up to an organization that detests literally every political and social position he holds?

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Union employees objectively earn more on average lol. Unions support democrats because democrats are more supportive of unions, it isnt really rocket science.

If said alabama worker cares more about his low IQ conservative views than making more money thats his choice, just like its my choice to view him as r-slurred.

That being said id guess they already have pretty good benefits as euro companies are leaps and bounds ahead of american ones in these areas.

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Lmao no. I work with oil refineries that are union and non union and the nonunion ones make more money and are significantly happier at their job because they don't have to work with idiots who deserve to be fired

My company poaches employees mainly from union sites because the good workers want a better work environment. Rarely do nonunion sites have guys willing to leave

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It really depends on the job. Skilled and scarce labor can negotiate higher and job hop individually. The average line worker, teacher, cop, lifeguard is generally better off using the union to extract more gibs.

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Thats neat, ill side with the data showing people in unions earn more on average.

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shitty employees earn more if they're unionized. the shitty employees voted in favor of unionizing I'm sure.

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Everyone does as unions increase the baseline.

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Every plant the UAW was championing their deals with during their drive at my plant had wage scales lower than we do as an ununionized plant, and they're locked into those rates for the next five years

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most euro companies I've seen have extra comfy upper middle management

first time I heard a story about someone taking a "sabbatical" that wasn't academia

A lot of them contract out the wagies and have terrible policies and benefits

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Pizza is it not the freedom of the worker to also not join a union? If the workers don't want to join a union then that's fine, that's their prerogative.

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Love how my old union aligned with Biden, who then immediately fricked them over

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:gigabiden:

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the U.A.W. would protect Mercedes workers from abrupt changes in their schedules and long shifts, including on weekends

Aka, you'll protect me from grindmaxxing.

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Sorry :marseyteehee: but due to our insurance requirements you can only work 20 hours per week!!

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I mean you can still do those things if you want, they just couldnt force it.

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Do they already make good money and have good benefits? If so wtf is a union going to do?

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We do important job collect union dues

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Doesn't really look like it but they got an across the board $2 raise due to the vote so they won either way.

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Represent the interests of a bunch of grad students who UAW for some reason has as members.

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if its anything like working for bmw or bosch then mercedes probably has great benefits already, so whats the point. europoor companies generally treat their workers well even in america

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i slave for BMW :marseyreich: and the top pay for regular wagies is 38/hr. 401k matches to 6% :marseymid: a union has nothing to offer me or most of my coworkers

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But don't you want to pay a bunch of progressives losers to create friction with your management and have them start weighing the costs of making a new factory somewhere else and dealing with ridiculous union demands while the only noticeable difference is that the worst of your coworkers are now borderline unfirable?

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greer?

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:marseyagree: stuck here for about another 14 months :marseywait:

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!slots 1400

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!slots100

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Yeah neighbor :marseyauthright:

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Same experience and that's about double what they were offering locally with worse benefits than any given FAANG company

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Unions are good actually !nonchuds

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Unions can be good but like all prole based :marseykingcrown: revolutions you end up, more often than not, with a system :marseymars: that only exists to protect bad actors and hurting new workers

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and hurting new workers

!tradies getting told I can't work overtime because I've not "paid my dues" yet still makes me seethe

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Just because unions in the US are r-slurred doesnt mean its the same everywhere. In fact partly based on my own experience unions are fine in most other areas

UStards are just permamently brain damaged by Red Scare + wokies dont exactly help the cause

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You say humans are varied and different

I know humans are as predictable as the sun is bright.

We are not the same

Not to mention a union, like all other organizations, have a profit motive under :marseyhandsup: capitalism. A union, by game theory, would :marseymid: rather lose their constituents money :marseymerchantelf: if it meant the union :marseyangelamerkel: gained more capital. It's like AN HOA at best

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Do you know how a union makes money? By getting their members more money.

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You can't get infinite money :marseycoin: from a finite capital company, that's where :marseydrama: unions breakdown. They keep trying to extract resources :marseycatbert2: where :marseydrama: there :marseycheerup: are non see nuclear :marseyradioactive: worker :marseymerchantelf: unions

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>nuclear worker unions

Thats the IBEW, and it's one of the largest unions in the US. It's also the one I'm in.

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So you're quite familiar with the frickery then

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I don't deal with shit outside my local, which only covers 1 nuke plant. They're a very small portion of our membership.

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>a system that only exists to protect bad actors

:!#speechbubble:

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My BWC could fix him

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Lol

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Depends on your industry and the unionZ

Video game union activists are left wing SJWs. Their stated platforms are to promote dei shit, fight white supremacy etc etc. the losers at my company that tried to get a union going were promoting a specific rule that former police or military would be explicitly banned from being able to join.

Worker rights? Lol. Lmao even.

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specific rule that former [...] military would be explicitly banned

Isn't that, like, super illegal?

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I think it's like age discrimination where it's legal to discriminate in one way but not the other. So you can discriminate in favor of veterans but not against them.

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former military

You mean...veterans?

That sounds like the easiest lawsuit of all time what the frick were they thinking :marseyxd:

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fight white supremacy

Based.

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I have never seen a union do anything but protect the most r-slurred dogfrickers

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Stop working with white women.

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It's all yt moids, auto and manufacturing unions are the absolute worst

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But if there's no :marseyfoidretard: then where does the dog fricking come in?

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Fricking the dog is leaf slang for doing absolutely nothing at work (except smoking cigarettes, playing poker etc)

Every construction crew in the maritimes is 75% dog frickers, by law

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Construction unions are the absolute masters of aggressively defending their right to be paid to do literally zero work

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You say I'm not doing anything, but I am spotting that skid steer, way over there. Then before that, I was making sure this shovel didn't fall over, and before that, I was holding this tag line. Before that? Smoke break.

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On my last job we had at any given time a 2-3 man rotating roster of people who's job was clearly to make sure that the TikTok servers were still working

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Idk I've never heard it out east but it's all over Ontario and probably the prairies too

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It's not just leaf slang. I use it all the time.

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Stop living in america then

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Brother, i wouldn't call this living

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Union dues are a form of taxation.

Taxation is theft.

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What we really need are artisanal on-demand unions, handcrafted while you wait.

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24 hour unions with slam poetry readings and a racial justice cork board to express your queer love upon

:#marseykneel:

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this neighbor is so r-slurred πŸ’”

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:#npcoppse:

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Based

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>Socialists: workers of the world, unite! We care about the welfare of our working class comrades, so we think you should form a union to fight the capitalists! :marseyletsgo:

>Workers: We already have everything we want. :chadusa:

>Socialists: you fricking shithead! Way to sabotage your own future! :!soysnooseethe:

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Leftist: I'm here for the working class :marseynails:

Same leftist: YALL DONT WANT TO UNIONIZE?! ERM KRILL YOURSELF FRICKING LOSERS

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ERM KRILL YOURSELF RACIST FRICKING BIGOT LOSER MAGAT CHUDS

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!neolibs keep winning!

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There is no way you need over $200k to live a comfortable life in Alabama

You gotta figure comfortable life to these people is doordash 3x a day and a 3k a month funko pop fund.

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Remember in recent years the UAW is controlled by commies

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I know nothing about UAW and I could have told you that

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Oh no they can't throw a shitfit and refuse to work for 6 months every year because I need another $15/hour to pull the trigger on the automated calibrated torque wrench

Reddit can't stop bitching about how expensive new cars are, yet they want every autoworker to be union for life

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Over 300 of my clients just lost their job because the idiots went on strike and the company just brought in new people. Unions aren't all bad but it sucks seeing good people lied to about the benefits of a strike because some idiots brainwashed them into thinking they'd win

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I support every auto plant to go into a union and on strike, except for the one i work at :capymerchant:

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Here's a question for you, how many unions do you know that invest in the company stock?

None, and you know why? Because they want to be able to strike with effecting their own savings. They don't care about the company at all, frick em.

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>his union doesn't invest his retirement in a broad portfolio for him

You're doing it wrong.

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