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TIL that in 1833 Britain used 40% of its national budget to free all slaves in the Empire : todayilearned

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!britbongs look at the utter ingratitude of these colonials

Paying slave-owners to give up their "property" is clearly worse than saying they get nothing and doing all the rest.

You are right they should have instead continued slavery for a further 60 years, allowed slaves to be continued to be exported from Africa then had a massive civil war over it getting about 700,000 people killed.

Well it would have been more dramatic that way, yes.

How about they try to end the Israel vs. Palestine conflict they caused.

Fun fact: Israel has no right to exist because it should still be the British Mandate of Palestine.

Crazy how many of the "oppressed" countries continue with slavery even without the option to sell to the Brits

You use oppressed in quotation marks and in the same sentence confirm slavery is ongoing in these countries. We still have to call people stupid here.

POC enslaving each other is wypipo's fault :dasrite:

not baller. imperialism is never baller no matter how you try to disguise its intentions. remember, the British always have some other kind of angle — empires never do anything out of kindness.

This is one of the few examples of an empire doing something out of pure altruism. Britain felt like it was their duty to abolish slavery even though that didn't benefit them and cost them and unimaginable some of money. This is a unicorn in terms of imperial actions, there was no gain and a lot of loss and they did it anyway.

:marseyangel:

Instead of buying their freedom you could've just...ya know...freed them.

Edit: You people down voting do realize that you're advocating for compensating slave owners with British tax dollars.

:brainletchest: British tax dollars

Angry Sexy Indian dudes

The British had slaves in Indian until the beginning of the 20th century though.

They like to use the words like "indentured servitude", but it's the same kind of shit

Its very much different. Indentured servant is voluntary. It is essentially a contract to work for a set amount of time (5 years) in exchange for something.


Yet kept indians enslaved until 1947

There is a reason ghandi always spoke highly of British rule in general, his problem was less with the rule and more with the fact indians were not the ones doing it, fair enough obviously, his objection was imperialism rather than the system.

You talk to people as if they must be unaware, i know you are referring to the fixed labour contracts unique to the indians, which is essentially akin to indentured servitude but pretending the numbers of people involved in that which is not really slavery (you can pretend this is universally agreed by historian's if you really want) is the same as it continuing slavery is disingenuous and also pretending this was remotely relevant in 1947 is also disingenuous.

!bharatiya penny for your thoughts?

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It's really obvious how feminine liberalism is.

>Yeah, you did this good thing, but you should have done it better :marseyindignantwoman:

Basically no different from a nagging foid.

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If you are on the designated good guy team any action can be excused away, if you are on the bad guy team nothing is good enough or must have been done with an evil ulterior motive

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also it was probably staged anyway :soysnootypefast:

!slots111

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:#marseymerchantfoid: tricks

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Old style liberalism is pretty manly and is based on being actually liberal and self-responsible.

Wokeism is pure foidery though, most of it just straight politicisation of female social tendencies. Like enforced non-confrontationalism (i.e. political correctness). Efforts on the 'fairness' of who's top of the hierarchy (opposed to criticism of the hierarchy itself) and so on

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Yeah, calling this attitude "liberal" is like calling the GOP "conservative".

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Speaking on slaver girlbosses, Brazilian BIPOCcels are now whitewashing Ginga, the Angolan kween who fought the Tugas and who was herself a slaver selling slaves to the tugas themselves, into some progressive feminist icon. The :soyjak: historian from Maringa, Laurentino Gomes is an example, even though he wrote accurately who Ginga was he still bowed to wokies by saying how important those myths are and compared the "legacy" of Ginga as some brave and stunning kween against that of Catherine of Brangaça who get's cancelled because she owned some shares in some slave company.

!macacos !historychads I hate Brazilian woketards so much is unreal.

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If memory serves me right, didn't that b-word literally have s*x slaves who had to fight to the death for the privilege of queen kitty? :marseyxd: :marseywomanmoment2:

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Yes

https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/internacional-44361821

A "YASS KWEEN SLAY" article.

She literally owned slaves and fought for the independence of her own Kingdom, nor for "black power/girl power" nonsense. That's what pisses me the most about Gomes's idiotic comparison with Catherina de Bragança on his book, Catherina was just a consort Queen of England who never personally owned slaves and had no power over her Parliament and her husband.

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Even here in Portugal, Catarina isn't regarded as that important of an historical figure.

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The Queen's borough in NYC is named like that after her. The Tuga community of NYC ordered a Bronze statue of Catarina to commemorate their heritage but they got cancelled by the local kangz who decried she was an evil slaver or something and instead the statue is now in Lisboa.

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Didn't know that TIL

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The demand for good successful girlbosses is higher than the supply even after scrapping through the entirety of human history.

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I give it 10 years til we get a Narcos: Girlboss edition

Carp would like that :marseyxd:

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Heck yeah


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Narcos girl boss edition already exists

Griselda or something like that

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Bring back punishing common scolds, I say.

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Not just liberals. I got the same response from /r/stupidpol a while ago too.

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/r/stupidpol is like /r/MensRight: either the users eventually accept wokeism but with full communist economic policies (i.e. arakiddies) or just go full tankie (i.e. anti-West identity politics)

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"Well yes, you did free a whole bunch of slaves and abolish the practice throughout your entire empire, but you did it peacefully instead of proving how manly you are by fighting so I don't care for it"

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>If you really loved me you'd kill them all

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I agree, but if you tell a foid the reason is about who owned the slaves then suddenly it's not acceptable again

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Michelangelo is a foid???? :marseymindblown:

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:#marseythissmall:

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Reminds me of that foid J Draper who is a self hating brit

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The british empire is basically one of the only ones in history that damaged itself legitimately trying to do good things and they get shit on for it and treated like the big bad evil empire for all time. The lesson to take from this is to exterminate all your colonies and brutally oppress everyone you can, because no one will give a frick and cucking yourself for foreigners gets you nothing but a bigger cuck chair

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The British ending wife burning in India is cultural imperialism sweety

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THE BRITISH IMPROVED HUMAN RIGHTS ON INDIA BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS AND ALL THE FRICKING SEXY INDIAN DUDES DO IS WHINE AND B-WORD ABOUT IT

WHITE EXTINCTION IS LONG OVERDUE CARP

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You'd b-word too if someone showed up and forcibly civilized you before you were ready

It's like trying to make orangutans do calculus when they've barely figured out primitive cowtools

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orangutans are less violent :marseymilei: than indians though. cuter too.

https://media.giphy.com/media/EPXGpFhnaqjsY/giphy.webp

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>Ebb and flow of civilization leads to lull in which a power vacuum forms.

>Chingchongs come and forcibly covert you to a Confucian-Commie system

>Years later: "You know that's kinda fricked up" :doomerfront:

>:asianchud: Don u no we civilized you sirry erropeans, you not even have social credit system or high speed trains before we come!

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NICE R-SLURRED HYPOTHETICAL HOWEVER IN THIS CASE THE BRITISH BUILT ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DID HORRIBLE OPPRESSIVE THINGS LIKE STOP BANDS OF HIGHWAYMEN FROM MURDERING PEOPLE. IF THEY FORCED COMMUNISM ON INDIANS @PermaChudRanch WOULD TOTALLY SYMPATHIZE

WHITE EXTINCTION IS LONG OVERDUE

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:#marseyme: and @Grue irl

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NICE R-SLURRED HYPOTHETICAL HOWEVER IN THIS CASE THE BRITISH BUILT ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DID HORRIBLE OPPRESSIVE THINGS LIKE STOP BANDS OF HIGHWAYMEN FROM MURDERING PEOPLE. IF THEY FORCED COMMUNISM ON INDIANS @PermaChudRanch WOULD TOTALLY SYMPATHIZE

WHITE EXTINCTION IS LONG OVERDUE

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I made a poem for u: Double BIPOC gigaBIPOC BIPOC snow BIPOC jewish chad cracker honkey hard-working American jew, BIPOC BIPOC sexy Indian dude injun BIPOC can't forget chinks too

one of the worst things about the reddit age is making an analogy and someone going "STRAWMAN" like yeah neighbor it's an invented comparison for people who can imagine not eating breakfast this morning

The bongs didn't build that much infrastructure, just enough to extract resources, like the hypothetical chink trains

None of this not that simple, yeah they forcefully modernized society which included some objectively good things like not burning women (idk I take that back, maybe good) but they didn't modernize it much, and India was still a shithole when they left, and maybe made worse. Wages dropped during the British period and famines increased.

This is like when the Arabs go "bbbut us conquering part of Europe was good because we actually preserved and advanced culture while Europe was in a dark age" (which is a myth) Like they may have done some good, but them staying put would have been better. In the analogy, maybe chingchongs building a high-speed rail system throughout North America would be beneficial, but I don't think anyone would take that trade

Gommunisim

Marx pointed to the constructive role of British rule in India, on the grounds that India needed some radical re-examination and self-scrutiny.

idk guess Marx agreed w you

Southerners shit their pants about reconstruction and that was essentially the same fricking ethnic group as them doing it. Imagine it it was victorious frogs or sexy Indian dudes, they'd never let it go

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None of this not that simple

:#soyjakcobson:

making an analogy and someone going "STRAWMAN"

:#soyjakfat:

you: WHAT IF CHINA CAME IN AND MADE EVERYTHING OBJECTIVELY SHIT IN EVERY WAY? WOULDNT YOU BE MAD???

sexy Indian dude yòur analogy sucks peepees

This is like when the Arabs go

REDDIT PHRASING ALSO Ì DONT CARE WHAT ARABS SAY

famines increase

:#soysnooseethe:

OH FRICK Mê ITS THE FRICKING WINSTON CHURCHILL DID BENGAL FAMINE MYTH AGAIN

WHITE EXTINCTION IS LONG OVERDUE AND SEXY INDIAN DUDES ARE ARYAN WHICH MEANS THEYRE WHITE

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lol you mad BIPOClet

OH FRICK MÊ ITS THE FRICKING WINSTON CHURCHILL DID BENGAL FAMINE MYTH AGAIN

lol I didn't say that, they didn't intentionally do that shit, but the bongoloids didn't mitigate them for shit either and were more focused on (((resource extraction))) than not killing people

SEXY INDIAN DUDE YÒUR ANALOGY SUCKS PEEPEES

Saar I am not sexy Indian dude. You must do the sneedful. Your service ticket is now closed, saar

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SEXY INDIAN DUDE OR ANTICOLONIALIST (COMMIE STRAG)

CALL IT

WHITE EXTINCTION IS LONG OVERDUE

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Thats a L, we need to go back foid :marseyburn:

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Nobody in India is going around hating the British for ending wife burning.

We have a 100 other legitimate grievances to despise them for.

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Nobody in India is going around hating the British for ending wife burning.

Then why did it take the British to end it?

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Your statement makes no sense in relation to my statement?

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The other lesson to take from this is that literally all the criticism leveled at any Western power is thinly veiled Marxist "critique", i.e. those with power are always wrong, evil, immoral, and unethical.

I'm not even kidding, that is literally the only underlying thought behind all vaguely leftist moaning of the last century. The powerful can never do anything right, and the weak can never do anything wrong. The most egregious example of this was that time when some cop shot a black girl literally mid-stab, and shitlibs and woke blacks still criticized her(!). Cop = powerful = evil.

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It's not just that though because there were tons of empires during the age where the british empire was around, most of them were equally powerful or at times more so, and they were all without exception vastly more evil than the british empire was, sometimes to almost cartoonish extremes (if you wrote a character in a movie that did the shit belgian empire did, people would consider it too evil to be believable)

Yet no one ever rags on them for any of that. There's something specifically anti-british going on that I assume is some holdover from american seethe about independence

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Yet no one ever rags on them for any of that.

There are lots of factors: scale (Belgium had one irrelevant colony, the UK ran the planet), language (English-speakers are going to be way more exposed to the history of the UK by simple cause of relation), relevancy (Belgium is a tiny, irrelevant nothing today, the UK isn't). But primarily, it's that Belgium lost its power status, therefore there's no current-day power structure to have an emotional attachment to. And don't forget that the people espousing this rhetoric all-but-fetishize small European democracies because they can't tell the difference between social democracy and socialism - which is aided heavily by the language barrier.

It's nothing to do with the British specifically, it's literally entirely to do with projecting (sometimes entirely imagined) power structures (i.e. narrative matters more than fact, see: intersectionality) onto literally everything.

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There's something specifically anti-british going on

Yes its called losing control of more territories so you have more places that get to hate you.

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sometimes to almost cartoonish extremes (if you wrote a character in a movie that did the shit belgian empire did, people would consider it too evil to be believable)

Apparently the "too evil to be believable" didn't stop you from believing all the exaggerations of an Irish proto-woke cute twink whose freedom fetish got himself executed in the end.

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some holdover from american seethe about independence

There hasn't been any since WW2. This all originates with butthurt Irish and Indians.

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They're whiter than white, and Belgians are criticized?

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It's not even good marxist critique

Shooting someone in the process of murdering another innocent person is a legitimate use of state power

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>good marxist critique

>mfw

:#surejan:

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Marx was pro British Empire. Historical materialism requires capitalist powers to spread capitalism to feudal and pre-feudal societies.

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In an accelerationist way, yeah, but not because he liked empires.

Mind you, that idea of his is what his entire philosophy hinges on and time has proven it conclusively wrong.

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:mongoljak: :marseythroatsinging:

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thanks for the tip. :marseythumbsup:

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How about they try to end the Israel vs. Palestine conflict they caused.

It's crazy how many people think this. This shit was already a problem in the Ottoman Empire.

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It's because there's nowhere on earth that won't eventually get sick and tired of Jews and Muslims

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It's because they get all of their history from /r/askhistorians.

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The Brits tried to solve it and then were like: "Yeah this shit's too hard, we out, bye."

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The irony is that they were pretty close to actually solving it, all they (or someone else, e.g. the UN) would've needed to do is to enforce the Partition before leaving, and maintain it for a decade or so. The Arabs (as in the Arab states, not the Pallys) might still have invaded and lost, but at least the status quo ante bellum would've been an established 2-state solution that could serve as a basis for negotiations, instead of the "we didn't want it when we thought we could kill you all but we want it now that you've kicked our asses" position of the Arabs today.

The only thing Muslims understand is violent repression, they can't deal with self-governance, so you have to approach every issue involving them from that angle. You can't treat them as tan Swedes and expect them to knuckle under, even when it's obviously the right choice.

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The only thing Muslims understand is violent repression

Arabs monarchs agree with you wholeheartedly.

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They didn't have nukes


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These neighbors probably don't even know the ottomans existed

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I wish the sexy Indian dudes and pakis would hurry up and nuke each other so I didn't have to see their sneed about Britain gifting them trains and civilisation.

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"... he now holds a special place in the Guinness Book of Frickin' R-slurs." - :marseynorm:

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Is that Michelob Ultra Light?

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Nah, all we need is for them to forget English and we'll never hear about them again.

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But what if they don't take China with them once the missiles start flying?

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Wrong. Sexy Indian dudeposting is entertaining.

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I'm glad the internet is turning on Indians so people don't take all their ridiculous claims about Britain seriously anymore

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For now, they're like children angry at mum for making them go to school, but they'll appreciate it when they grow up.

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Superpower by 2020!

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:#marseygigachadbronypat:

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Fun fact: Israel has no right to exist because it should still be the British Mandate of Palestine

Same thing about Palestine, bongs promised the same land to both at the same time.

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ultimate drama pilled move from the poms

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Same thing about Palestine, bongs promised the same land to both at the same time.

:marseybased: :marseyking:

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bongs promised the same land to both at the same time.

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It's technically Syrian land, but Britain and France decided to split it up.

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British tax dollars

:marseydark#xd:

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Least patriotic American

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Redditors talk about how colonialism created slavery, while wearing a sweatshop made tshirt. colonists donked on salvers by btfoing them for over 100 years lamo

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ahh a sweatshop ahh

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Smh history is just a series of handouts to the rich !historychads

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>handout

Most of the money was spent on the Royal Navy to capture slaver ships and destroy slave markets in the African coast not on reparations for former slave owners. Brazil abolished the slave trade under British pressure as !macacos continued to import BIPOCs as late as the 1840s.

!historychads

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Slavery was not abolished in Brazil :marseysopa: until Lula led the working :marseylifting: class to rise up against right :marseygasden: wing dictators and neocolonialism from the west

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This is what nordestinos actually believe

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:#carpagreefast:

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:#popcorn:

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Much later than that, US still had time to joined the patrols and they only did so after civil war.

Slave smuggling only truly stopped when Britain and other Imperialist powers went after the suppliers

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Yes but the Brazilian congress passed the "Eusebio Queiroz" law in 1850 banning the Slave trade. It was known as "lei pra inglês ver" or "law for the English to see", which means it existed on paper only so the British would stop whining while the trade continued in illegality.

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Brazilians are no better than monkeys !macacos

https://media.giphy.com/media/k1Psl92gw7YPSPYFKm/giphy.webp

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>literal actual monkey saying this

You'd know

:#marseysmug2:

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Aren't you the somali guy? :m#arseysomali:

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Brazil abolished the slave trade under British pressure as !macacos continued to import BIPOCs as late as the 1840s.

:#marseyrain:

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!commies I have a solution to this issue

https://media.giphy.com/media/ZXFviJgo6LSE3XtXPA/giphy.webp

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@RWBY summoned the coomer squad and they're being racist/judgemental towards my wife downthread :marseysad:

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You praised the historical Spanish Empire earlier,

Yet you don't actually appreciate giga coomers with tropical fever? :marseyconquistador: :marseycoomer2:

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I thought Corinthian was a Philipino/Spaniard mestizo

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Wow, not enough historical appreciation for the coomerism of the founding fathers like Thomas Jefferson--AND the silly Spaniards legitimized their offspring instead of owning them like property, so gross.

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