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EFFORTPOST [Extremely Neurodivergent] An Introduction to Vtubers - AKA Mom Found the Vomit Drawer

Two nukes lead directly to this

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Vtubing is a form of online streaming or videos made with an anime character as the speaker, for entertainment. :marseyautism: Their predecessors include normal webcam letsplayers and streamers (

) and long form content creators that use one or more still images of their avatar talking as they talk (insert any random dork that has one of those 2 hour analyses of childrens' cartoons). :marseymetokur: :marseyetika: :vsaucemichael:

If this sounds incredibly neurodivergent, it is, but this is the very tip of the iceberg.

The typical vtuber is a biological woman(1) that uses a camera to rig a 2-d model or a 3-d model of an anime girl to follow their face and head movement, so that they appear fully animated.

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They take on various forms of entertainment, from essentially being normal video game streamers but with an anime girl facecam, idol-type singers, "wacky" Japanese "humor" types, porn, to even news commentators. A lot of them make a big deal out of their model and character, with intricate backstories and keyfabe. Generally speaking, Japanese companies and vtubers are a little heavy on this and hype up the vtubers as idol singers, while Americans and Canadians are a little more inclined to know they're effectively regular streamers juiced up by weeaboos, but also keep up the keyfabe and idol stuff. :marseymiku:

Vtubing is enabled by advances in camera tracking equipment, Youtube and Twitch allowing livestreams to receive money from viewers in "super chats" and memberships, and a proliferating online community that broke containment from Japan around 2019-2020. It appears that COVID led to a ton of weebs looking into alternative spaces to interact, including parasocial relationships with streamers. In turn, the community of artists, 3-d modelers, and riggers exploded, and now anyone can be a anime girl with their iPhone, paying for the model of their character, and a few software cowtools for streaming. In the last year or year and a half, it appears that some of that COVID-era parasocial engagement has fallen, but the cat is out of the bag, and I wouldn't be surprised if this type of media continues to grow. If you type in "vtuber" on youtube or twitch there are a ton of shitty setups with 1 or 2 viewers live all the time, it kind of reminds me of when every guy thought he could be a letsplayer. In terms of the rdrama userbase, users may be familiar with Kirsche, the /pol/tuber, or Pippa the variety streamer, who are both 4chan and KF adjacent. Overall, the largest company is Hololive, recently known for their most popular vtuber singing at a Dodgers game

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The Fans

But what happens when you take an already strange group (weeaboos) and combine them with the parasocial experience of wanting to frick an anime girl streamer? Unmitigated schizophrenia. :marseybangfast: Reddit is as normal as you can be for entertainment like this, twitter is usually weird over the top care for their favorite vtubers (like when someone cancels because they are sick, fans will write out detailed concerns and fifty heart emojis), but elsewhere is hilariously insane. 4chan rarely adds boards, but they added /vt/ for vtubing as a containment board, and it is now almost as fast as the fastest boards /vg/ and /pol/. It goes faster than fricking /a/ and /b/, and would completely swamp where it would be otherwise, /jp/. KF has a vtuber general with 8000 fricking pages. There's a KF splinter site dedicated entirely to vtubing. Oh, and a solid proportion of vtuber models look and act like children, so a lot of pedos are into it too.

There are a ton of boundaries that vtubers aren't supposed to cross because it is seen as dangerous ("yab"/"yabai" in moonrunes). Usually it's related to how idols are supposed to not smoke or drink or publicly talk about s*x. However, because essentially what these women do is talk or play video games 20+ hours a week, things inevitably slip in. Even the agencies that acknowledge they platform actual psychiatric patients or are kinda edgy generally try to keep their vtubers with some level of keyfabe, some level of idol stuff like songs, and no talking about relationships.

Remember how this is about mid Asian women playing video games and singing with a little bit of pretending to be a dorky anime girl? A lot of r-slurs think it's real.

  • First, there is "gosling". AKA falling in love with the anime girl on your youtube. Think of Ryan Gosling's character from Blade Runner 2049 https://i.rdrama.net/images/1721765120997724.webp

  • You may come to the obvious conclusion that this is r-slurred, but think of the kind of community that this attracts

  • Because vtubers make money from fans sending money on their streams or by buying their merchandise, they are incentivized to grow their fanbase to include lonely weirdos who will drop $500 on their streams

  • However, these same weirdos end up cataloging every single snippet of personal information that you say because they are in love with the vtuber

  • Then when the vtuber slights them somehow, they will dump all that info attempting to dox them

  • This could range from political opinions, personal hypocrisy, not reading out the chat they sent, or just schizos building up tangential evidence that you have a boyfriend

Now that I think about it this reminds of something here... :marseydarkfoidretard: :marseykrayon: :marseyspal: :marseytedsimp2: ... but somehow more neurodivergent, because once again, they're in love with an anime girl and don't even get to have s*x with it. And this isn't "oh I'm literally handing out my full name, phone number, job and location :marseyfoidretard:" but this:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17217651217229168.webp . It's fricking insane.

In the funniest instance, accidentally revealing you have a boyfriend on stream directly :marseyxd::

https://streamable.com/lnjg6z

led to some schizo dropping a 60 page google doc of groomercord screenshots and accusations she led him on, leading her to retire her character and rebrand. He still shows up on /vt/ occasionally to sperg out AFAIK


Vtubers

So the viewers are obsessive weirdos that will literally track weather and note that their vtuber said it was raining at exactly 10:19 AM EST to narrow down where they live, while compiling insane screeds because they want to frick their favorite clumsy nerd dragon anime girl in real life... what about the vtubers themselves?

  • They often have considerable issues, but are usually just gross femcels

  • The rabbit girl at the top of this post, Pippa Pipkin, is IRL trailer trash, had a drawer she would puke in, lived with mold on her stuff, did not brush her teeth, and is just generally really gross:

  • Rushia is the name of a former vtuber who lost her job because of lolcow-tier crazy, revealing that she was married, cheating on her husband, then divorcing him while cheating on him and making a ton of accusations, and was threatening lawsuits to a ton of people over this information

  • It explains a lot to learn that the average vtuber is neurodivergent. On this test, https://embrace-autism.com/raads-r/#test, where 65 is minimum score considered for autism and 130 is the mean score of neurodivergent people, the company Phase Connect had many of their vtubers take it and most of them scored above 150.


Why is this dramatic?

The slightest negative thing that a vtuber does gets amplified by schizos and a-logs, which often snowballs into drama. For example, Pippa is gross and weird, but there's a thread right now between her white knights and a-logs that is like 50 pages long in two or three days as if its a :marseycwc: update

The juxtaposition of vtubers to normal media is still fricking hilarious, like tell me this isn't funny: https://rdrama.net/post/285799/apparently-there-are-rightoid-redpilled-vtubers

It's only going to get more neurodivergent and parasocial from here

  • The Japanese Communist Party has a vtuber:

  • If J.D. Vance, a rightoid twitter user who follows "Mid Castizos" and Steve Sailer can become vice president, we will eventually have a weeaboo vice president that'll get questioned why he followed Kirsche

Pissing off vtube fans is funny and unfortunately a proportion of them are pedos and/or gooners

  • Do NOT look at any pictures from conventions. A lot of these guys look WORSE than your worst stereotypes. There are people in real life who buy anime body pillows. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17217651220895183.webp

Vtubing could be an innovative form of media. The motion tracking and animation is really interesting. The interactivity that some streamers have can be original and interesting, from the way they break the fourth wall to the way they can manipulate elements of their character model and background on the fly. Some vtubers are surprisingly talented but either too ugly or mentally ill to be regular streamers or did not make it as singers, and this offers a track for them to continue to be an entertainer and make bizarre content.

However, vtubing is ultimately more likely to be known on the internet for pedos jacking off to their favorite 4,000 year old shark girl and donating their Burger King paychecks to Youtube.

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Finally, pretty much every single thread on vtubing anywhere turns into this.

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(1) Yes, I was honestly surprised at first too. Technically it would be hard to tell if an independent streamer passes hard enough, but agencies have to verify their vtubers and are almost always looking for women only. If you've ever been to weeb convention or related event and you see 4/10 Asian or white women cosplaying or doing related things like /cgl/, there is a nonzero chance they've tried vtubing. Surprisingly, there are even attractive ones, though the correlation between attractiveness and being a vtuber is obviously negative.

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Hololive and Niji talents just aren't particularly entertaining to me. Indies and small corpos actually have flexibility, and the more unhinged a woman is, the more entertaining to a point. I think most of the real drama comes from that scene as well. Every week, something new. I think just recently there was:

>Kirsche getting in Twitter fights (weekly occurrence at this point)

>Some 3 views making trump assassination jokes

>Filian does something and starts a new cancellation cycle

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There are a lot of 'normal' vtubers in the indie scene, too. Most of the Barbies are pretty mentally sound. Frick holo for taking soya away, though.

I also think we've hit a sort of saturation point in the industry. It's no longer unique to be a vtuber, anyone can do it. So, a lot of the 4views (Bao, giri, juni, etc.) are actually switching to flesh streaming to gain more audience, or maybe that's just what they always wanted to do. There's a ton of content available for people to actually do that goes beyond just streaming. Like they really aren't using the software to do anything that's not livestreams (except maybe concerts, and the few video essay guys who stream with vtuber avatars).

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To be fair, Holo is an instant 300k subscribers to your channel and debuts with 20-30k viewers. Niji is a shit show.

Phase Connect is probably the best for small corpo at this point.

I also think we've hit a sort of saturation point in the industry.

People have said this for years, particularly after Hololive Council debuted and was kind of muddled. Then Advent disproved that.

4views (Bao, giri, juni, etc.) are actually switching to flesh streaming to gain more audience,

The only time I enjoyed a flesh stream was when Nyanners went to the range.

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Yeah, Phase definitely seems like the best of both worlds, and they have some great talent. The way they do invaders, just subsuming the indie IP and audience, should be done more. I know Idol did it for Lisa and some others too. I am curious if identies will get more perennial as people move agencies as the years go on.

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I think smaller corps will let people keep identities, just something to stand out. "Join us, we're more than a Not-Agency, and you keep your identity!"

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Liking anime girls is like liking real girls, but it never even began. :marseyneckbeard:

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Most of the Barbies are pretty mentally sound.

And then you have Shondo and Inis...

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