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When white americans or white latin-americans want to celebrate their irish/italian/german/spanish ancestry because of their immigrants great-great-grandparents
When american or latin-american blacks want to celebrate their vague "African" heritage whose country they don't even know of and whose tribes ceased to exist centuries ago because of the Slave Trade
So tiresome
!latinx !macacos !nooticers
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My impression from Africans is that they hate muh heritage blacks even more than Euros hate muh heritage whites, plus dunk on them for descending from the people they captured and sold![:marseyxd: :marseyxd:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyxd.webp)
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Tomorrow is the Bicentennial of the German Immigration in Brazil, 200 years since the first colony, Sรฃo Leopoldo, was founded, most of my mom's ancestors are traced to Sรฃo Leopoldo settlers.
I think at this point people just celebrate the new Germano-Brazilian culture which emerged (which was a mishmash of several German regions into one) instead of "we-wuzing".
Thinking about it the Bicentennial commemorations are going to bring a lot of seethe by twittertards lol.
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It's funny that we Germs don't really mind your culture. It's clear that it has evolved from German culture (well mostly Bavarian), but you honor & celebrate it while adding your own stuff. So that's cool with us as long as there's beer.
Probably has something to do that it's a real culture and not a single (American) guy being like "my grand grand dad is from Germany, thus i'm german! no I cannot speak German, but can I get citizenship?"
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What do you think of Brazilian and American beer?
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Personally I'm a fan of wheat beer. So even German pils, export, kellerbier, rauchbier ... is not something that I really love.
If I enjoy the taste and it's better than the alternatives to drink I don't mind any beer. Haven't had any Brazilian/American beer yet that makes me go "omg I need to drink it, cause it's really great". Obviously open to suggestions.
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What's funny is that most german immigrants in Brazil were not Bavarian, but Rheinish and Pomeranians. There were even Swiss and Austrians and because Germany wasn't a unified country back them they were all grouped together as "Germans" by the Brazilian Imperial Government who would then settle the immigrants in pre-selected colonies. I still wonder when the Oktoberfest thing began here and why, maybe the Bavarians were culturally dominant because they're more attached to their regionalism and the rest went with it, but linguistically Moselle and Baltic dialects dominated.
The RS (Rio Grande do Sul) Germans were more akin to the Baltic Germans than the Germans who migrated to the US in the sense of building a separate ethnic group for generations, for instance in 1940 12% of RS population spoke German as a native language despite most of them being 3rd/4th/5th/6th gens by then, those would live in their settlements and towns kind of self-segregating from Brazilians and other immigrant groups.
But nowadays almost no one except the elders speak the dialects and yeah, is mostly fun community parties and beer with flags, so what's the harm, lol.
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I don't know if it was you I had the conversation with before, but yeah, some speak a dialect that is 100% German. Hunsrรผcker dialect seems to be a subdialect of Moselle. Since we lost the Baltics quite some time ago not much from them is in our normal language (I think), while I usually use Moselle words (Viez, Bredouille, ...)
Exactly.![:#marseyzwei: :#marseyzwei:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyzwei.webp)
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That's a funny idea, but considering the average income of an african american vs. a real african, there's not much ground for them to stand on imo
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Look at the income of Nigerian immigrants vs. African Americans, though
https://medium.com/@joecarleton/why-nigerian-immigrants-are-the-most-successful-ethnic-group-in-the-u-s-23a7ea5a0832
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wow, how could this be
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Africans trying to dunk on anyone for anything is pathetic
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Not really, it's a shitty and rough place to grow up so anyone claiming to be from there when they were born in Kansas or Oakland should be ridiculed
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It feels like African Americans really don't get why their ancestors were shipped to another continent.
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I guess that's why so many of those american blacks hate
: these people have clearly traceable ancestry and actual cultural identity
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idk Africans burn Amerimutts from the while continent claiming to be African.
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I was mocking a specific reaction to heritage which is common in Brazilian Twitter but maybe a bit different in the US.
This year is the bicentennial of the German migration to Brazil and the 150th anniversary of the Italian migration (1824 and 1874 was when they began) and I've seen many woketards seething about it, claiming all southerners are racists with the "oh the German migration, you think you're better than because that, well they were peasants and you're not german so frick you!". Meanwhile pardos and blacks clinging to some vague African ancestry from centuries ago are celebrated as brave and they fetishize everything Afro.
"Negro movement" activists in general resent the immigrants and believe Brazil didn't need them and that instead all land should have been handed to former slaves, ignoring the fact that coffee pickers and sugar laborers were not farmers and like it or not Brazil needed new farmers with new crops and techniques that's why the krauts and italians were so important. Those activists are what in the spanish speaking world you call "acomplejados".
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