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:marseylongpost: words inside Because rightoids enjoy abusing awards to protect themselves from getting dunked I'll respond to them in 1 post.

The other day @Intervention posted something along the lines of "I remember when the gays were accusing Fauci of killing them."

This was in the context of some r drama conservatards (intervention literally being from r/conservative, the most r-slurred sub on reddit) trying to claim Fauci somehow failed to respond to the HIV epidemic.

The problem being, of course, is it wasn't Fauci, the CDC, or the NIH that failed. It was the Republican party and Ronald Reagan. It's not even remotely shocking intervention is unaware of this because she's a poorly educated moron and perpetually wrong about everything, but still.

Intervention, after another rightoid gave me an award to prevent me from dunking him, responded with this:

STFU wacko. I was alive to remember it and it's easily searchable.

Indeed b-word, it is easily searchable, and had you done so you'd have found this:

https://academic.oup.com/shm/article/33/3/1001/5265310

during the 1970s; by 1979, health professionals began to recognise an epidemic.9 In June 1981, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published the first official US report on the new disease. Over the following months, AIDS took a swift and devastating toll on urban gay communities, with the hundreds of cases diagnosed that year representing only a tiny fraction of those already infected.10 However, the political climate deterred any proactive federal response. In keeping with his agenda of trimming federal government, the new president, Ronald Reagan, had cut budgets at the NIH and CDC. The social conservatives who helped elect him recoiled from a disease publicly associated with gay menβ€”a strongly marginalised and stigmatised social group.11 Federal agency leaders expressed mounting frustrations over the next several years, as the administration blocked congressional appropriations for AIDS-related programmes and impeded the CDC’s attempts to mount prevention campaigns. Medical research at the NIH was relatively less affected by government recalcitrance, but for those already infected or at risk of contracting HIV little federal help was forthcoming. In 1983, activists succeeded in having AIDS designated a disability under Medicaidβ€”but most AIDS patients died before receiving any benefits.

This is a common tactic you see Republicans engage in - they fail to respond to or block a government response to a serious issue, and then years later try to spin the failed response on other people - in this case Fauci.

In 30 years you can be sure the failed covid response will not be Donald Trump, but everyone else, just like somehow Fauci is to blame for Reagan failing to respond to HIV.

The lesson here, you dumb b-word, is that just because you lived through something doesn't mean you have any idea what you're talking about.

Anyone blaming Fauci for a failed HIV response is objectively fricking wrong and warping history.

R-slur #2.

@aydyn

Yeah, moron, not only do people act as projectiles inside the vehicle when unbelted, you can easily be flung out into traffic and cause more accidents:

https://clickorlando.com/traffic/2020/12/07/fatal-crash-closes-i-4-in-osceola-county/

https://mercedsunstar.com/news/local/article254906857.html

There's way more here, but it isn't actually worth trying to argue with people claiming seatbelt laws are tyranny or that they only protect the individual.

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Neither of your links show an ejected person causing injury to other people.

When you ride in a vehicle without someone wearing a seatbelt you're assuming the risk that that person's body may bonk you in the head and hurt you in the event of a crash. It's the same risk you take when you ride with someone who's been drinking.

Seatbelt laws are tyrannical and should be abolished.

β€œThose who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"

- Iowa_hawkeye

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β€œThose who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"

100% this hawkeye. I ain't going to give up my loli collection or stop hanging around public schools, lest I succumb to tyrannical rule

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If you can be thrown into traffic, you can absolutely cause further accidents, people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.

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If you can be thrown into traffic, you can absolutely cause further accidents, people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.

So find an example. Keep searching!

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Doesn't seem to be the case though and the laws aren't written like that's the case, especially with around half the states not requiring adults to wear seatbelts in the back seat and in many states it not even being a primary traffic offense.

The laws are written for personal protection, not for the protection of others.

Stop using extremely rare events to justify tyrannical laws that's purpose isn't even to stop those extremely rare cases.

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Anyone claiming seatbelt laws are tyranny literally deserves to be taken behind a shed and shot in the back of the head to prevent them from breeding.

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Same could be said for the tyrants, the tree of liberty is thirsty.

If people want to be dipshits and not wear a seat belt, let them. Don't justify your need for control over others by bringing up things that rarely ever happen.

I decided to look and seat belt laws are a primary offense in more states than I thought. Them being a primary offense is a big problem, all it takes is a LEO to say I didn't see your seatbelt on to pull you over and that gives the state more opportunity to violate your rights and waste your time.

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all it takes is a LEO to say I didn't see your seatbelt on to pull you over and that gives the state more opportunity to violate your rights and waste your time shoot innocent black people

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What is it with libertariantards and the misuse of that quote?

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I used the quote correctly.

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No, you didn't.

The entire context of that quote was Jefferson writing a letter to the US military when they were violently crushing an uprising against the government.

In fact the people rising up against the government were doing so over taxes, and were hanging tax collectors from trees:

As a symbol of their protest, they designated certain trees as β€œliberty trees,” like those used during the Revolution to hang tax collectors working for the British Crown. They demanded changes in the tax laws, they had guns – and they were prepared to use them.

The Massachusetts state government reacted forcefully to put down this threat to their power, with encouragement from Founding Fathers like Samuel Adams. In the rebellion’s most significant β€œbattle,” dozens of protesting farmers were killed or wounded by the state militia. Hundreds were eventually put in prison. Some were executed.

The actual quote being:

β€œWhat country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”

He was talking about killing people that were revolting against government authority.

Unless I misunderstood you and you were saying this in response to me saying you should die.

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I think you should read the entire letter Jefferson wrote along with getting it in context with the letter he was replying to. Your Google cliffnotes are off the mark.

Now answer the more important question, are you a 🐸?

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people will obviously try to avoid hitting you.

Whereas people will happily just plow into the wreckage of your vehicle? :marseyhmm:

Can't we just say that crashes on the road increase the likelihood of other crashes on the road, and get rid the easiest excuse for cops to profile and wrongly pull over Black people?

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And so should beveraged driving laws for people who can pass a beveraged driving test.


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yes the laws exist to protect individuals from stupidity. That is worth doing

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