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:siren::marseyhappening:(TOTAL SHITSHOW) THE TRADCATH MAGA COMMUNIST /POL/SHEVIKS OF /R/STUPIDPOL MALFUNCTION OVER BRAPZIL BANNING XITTER AND FIGHTING BALLMUSK, BASED NATIONAL-MARXISTS ARE NOT SURE IF THEY SHOULD SIDE WITH AN AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE OR AN AUTHORITARIAN JUDGE WHO HATES VPNS, A LOT OF :sneedchad: IN WHAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST SEETHEMAXXED THREAD ON STUPIDPOL IN A LONG TIME, I CANT EVEN EFFORTPOST CAUSE ITS TOO MUCH, ARCHIVE THE COMMENTS BEFORE THE JANNIES COME:marseyhappening::siren:

https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1f5bf6i/judge_suspends_x_platform_in_brazil_amid_feud/

On this thread you have:

1. Subreddit tourists absolutely infest the thread and write shitloads of comments with the neurodivergents from the sub over le deplatform Nazis, saying that they're not Marxists and should just admit that they're terminal chud contrarians who oppose current thing, but are not full-blown race realists yet

2. Stupidpolcels love BRICS, but forget that Lulneurodivergent is (currently) allied to judge AleCHADre de GODraes that wants to prosecute those who use VPNs to use Xitter, are you criticizing our third world warriors fighting for a multipolar world against AmeriNATOukrozionazis, comrade? :npcangry:

3. The absolute state that what was once the subreddit with the biggest user overlap with /r/Drama :marseyitsallsotiresome:

4. :siren::bluelight: REMEMBER TO ARCHIVE THE COMMENTS BEFORE THE JANNIES COME :bluelight::siren:

:#marseyletsfuckinggo2: !chuds !dramatards !anticommunists

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The absolute state of society when we're having arguments on whether the billionaire narcissist or the corrupt judge is right in banning a shitty fricking app that pretends to be some forum of absolute free speech when it's just a reactionary factory of actual fake news and the worst isms you can think of. :marseyitsallsotiresome:

Frick Musk and frick Moraes. Freedom of speech isn't a binary. There's not such thing as absolute free speech. We never had it, and we never will. Twitter is a shit app and anyone pretending that it is, or rather, should be, the main forum of free speech is an absolute r-slur.

But this all betrays the two most important points to take from this debacle. On one hand, the nature and power of trans/multinational corporations and actors who hold so much power and influence over our politics, economy and culture, who aren't beholden to anyone or anything but themselves and a faceless cabal of investors and shareholders. On the other hand, the increasingly more authoritarian measures by so called "liberal democracies" in capitalist states as they struggle to keep all avenues of dissent and opposition to their rotten, decaying system in check.

Congratulations, we're arriving at the prelude to actual, unironic Fascism (genuinely). Expect more and more of these debacles and clashes as we go forward. More Capitalist overreach and erosion of our borrowed liberties and freedoms. The rich will get richer, the police state will grow stronger and we'll grow poorer and less free as the mask of liberal democracy continues to slip.

And don't think even for a second that they won't, eventually, completely rob us of the internet and the freedom it gave us to express ourselves. Capital will engulf all and everything in due time to protect itself, like an organism fighting for its life.

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:#chudglassesglowtalking:

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Darn, you're really mad over this, but thanks for the effort you put into typing that all out! Sadly I won't read it at all.

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All of these states just want to try and wield power against what they see as American forces. The EU does this constantly against american tech companies, Canada tried it against Meta because Trudeau loves copying EU policy and got told to frick off. I'd rather have states mad and crying that they can't control social media than some neurodivergent r-slur getting cucked tbh

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>The capitalists forced this socialist government into executing a mass censorship manuever on arbitrary premises

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The decision was almost exclusively taken by Moraes, the supreme court judge, not Lula. Alexandre de Moraes is not a socialist, far from it. But that's besides the point, really. The point is that trans/multinational corporations and actors like Musk are way too fricking powerful and answer to no one but themselves and their financiers, and the fact that liberal democracies are increasingly becoming more and more reactionary and resorting to authoritarian measures to either, suppress, censor or outright silence voices as they struggle to control speech on the internet which runs contrary to the interests of their ruling classes. They will give you many reasons as to why they're resorting to these draconian measures but the main objective is but one, total control over the flow of information, and not just the virtual kind either. The whole "fighting extremism/fake news/racism/etc." excuse is just a red herring.

So now we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one side we have multibillionaires with their techno fiefdoms, privatizing more and more of the internet to themselves, and amassing immense power over the flow of information, the economy, politics and our culture. On the other side we have liberal democracies and their ruling classes increasingly more desperate to employ authoritarian and draconian measures to control the flow of information, in the process depriving us of our liberties and freedoms on trumped-up charges.

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You had a chance to not be completely worthless, but it looks like you threw it away. At least you're consistent.

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The point is that trans/multinational corporations and actors like Musk are way too fricking powerful and answer to no one but themselves and their financiers,

I don't want them to answer to tyrants. What's the upside of that?

The problem with giant tech companies is that they're monopolistic: X (and FB, and Insta, Reddit, Apple msg...) should be turned into open protocols like email. Or at least offer a compatibility to open protocols. But that would make tyrannical censorship even harder, so no government is interested in that.

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Just don't use Twitter neighbor 🀣🀣🀣🀣

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>anyone pretending that it is, or rather, should be, the main forum of free speech is an absolute r-slur.

No one is saying anything remotely like this

:marseyr#opeyourself:

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Its owner believes so and so do a whole lot of his sycophants. The man also hasn't been exactly shy about his plans to turn X into an "everything app" and turning X into THE virtual public square.

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What then is the main forum of free speech, in your opinion?

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BUT ITS DANGEROUS

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There is none, so far.

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good thing we at least have twitter X

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Eh, more of a curse than a blessing at this point.

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Yeah so? Just dont use it neighbor wtf

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Lol

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>both sides, are le bad!!!

Lol.

reactionary factory of actual fake news and the worst isms you can think of.

Congratulations, we're arriving at the prelude to actual, unironic Fascism (genuinely).

It's so funny seeing leftoids shit on supposed neolibs while spouting HuffPo-tier takes like "Le fake news is leading us to Real Existing Fasicism".

I bet this r-slur posts on /r/LateStageCapitalism with the rest of the online commie mouthbreathers.

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both sides, are le bad!!!

Lol.

Yeah, absolutely, unironically.

It's so funny seeing leftoids shit on supposed neolibs while spouting HuffPo-tier takes like "Le fake news is leading us to Real Existing Fasicism".

Reactionary fake news is just one factor, not the main one. But it's interesting you suggest these "le fake news" are not real or don't have an impact in our society when just a few weeks ago we had a few thousand rightoid troglodytes chimp out in the UK because they read on X and Facebook that it was a Muslim immigrant that had stabbed children, leading to race riots. When even the actual owner of X straight up entertains and promotes shit like "le great replacement theory is real and (((they))) are behind it", or the "Great Reset" nonsense that our elites are totally gonna create a Socialist world order :marseyeyeroll:. This is a man with tens of millions of sycophants by his side and with an audience in the billions.

We have political parties whose campaign slogans take word for word these r-slurred conspiracies into their political programs getting in or close to power all over Europe. The fricking AfD, a party filled to the brim with honest to God Nazis, just won a German state election today campaigning on these same r-slurred, reactionary views and conspiracies. So I'm sorry for being a little bit worried that our society seems to be heading into the shitter, in no small part thanks to these reactionary factories and actors like X and Musk.

If you don't see the sheer reactionary nature of X under Musk then it's because you're either blind and ignorant to it, or you're one of the midwits that takes part in his technochud crusade.

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X is just a communication platform, nobody is forced at gun point to use it or pay a fine (one year's worth of their nation's per capita GDP). If you don't like to communicate freely with other people you can simply not do that.

The tyrant of brazil has infinitely more power over his subjects. He can deprive them of all their rights if he so chooses.

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The problem is how these communication platforms like X and Facebook dominate the flow of information. This is a case of yes, you can technically live without a cell/smartphone today but it's going to be awfully unpractical and will exclude you (or make it very hard) from participating in several, important forums and institutions of our society. If you want to have a presence online you need to use these corporations and their sites/apps.

The solution in your other comment is exactly what I want, too.

The problem with giant tech companies is that they're monopolistic: X (and FB, and Insta, Reddit, Apple msg...) should be turned into open protocols like email. Or at least offer a compatibility to open protocols.

>The tyrant of brazil has infinitely more power over his subjects. He can deprive them of all their rights if he so chooses.

I mean yeah, naturally.

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A good government serves its people. This can only be ensured if the people can freely choose their government. And this in turn is only possible if the people can freely form their opinions.

The problem is how these communication platforms like X and Facebook dominate the flow of information.

They must be uncensored exactly because they dominate the flow of information.

The solution in your other comment is exactly what I want, too.

Uhm.. by "open protocol" I don't mean a protocol that is controlled by the judge-king tyrant of brazil.

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>A good government serves its people. This can only be ensured if the people can freely choose their government. And this in turn is only possible if the people can freely form their opinions.

This is a lofty ideal but unfortunately it can't, or rather, isn't allowed to, work in liberal democracy. The game is rigged and our supposed rights only exist and are as tangible as the interests of the ruling classes allow. Therefore, they're not real rights, for the underlying interests behind them are not our own.

>They must be uncensored exactly because they dominate the flow of information.

I'm not asking for their censorship. Especially considering who would be doing the censorship. I want these forums to be truly public and free. Not owned by narcissistic billionaires with reactionary agendas while at the same time pretending to be a haven of absolute free speech.

>Uhm.. by "open protocol" I don't mean a protocol that is controlled by the judge-king tyrant of brazil.

I don't mean that either. I'm all about open-source protocols and complete transparency not beholden to any actor be it state or private. For me the internet holds the greatest potential in the pursuit of true, universal emancipation. But that potential is being systematically eroded and chipped away at. Unfortunately this seems to be a losing battle.

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The game is rigged

No matter how rigged the game is, enabling the government to hide and punish inconvenient discourse makes it a lot worse.

I'm not asking for their censorship.

Really? It seemed to me like you want the judge-king of Brazil to ban his subjects from X under penalty of an average annual income.

I want these forums to be truly public and free.

Things could be better, but discourse on X/twitter is currently far more free than it was before Musk bought it.

The issues that I suspect you have with X would also arise in a fully decentralized version of it.

But that potential is being systematically eroded and chipped away at. Unfortunately this seems to be a losing battle.

I'm optimistic about decentralization. But it's difficult.

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The issues that I suspect you have with X would also arise in a fully decentralized version of it.

Yeah, almost certainly. Though I don't think they'd be as pronounced.

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Have you owned the libs yet?

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:#marseywords:

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It's hilarious to see people on the Brazilian sub who were supportive of the ban now complaining about the VPN fine and saying it's excessive. People on that sub are extremely supportive of censorship, as is the Brazilian left in general (even more so than the American one). They think they can control it. That these cowtools that their side will create to censor cannot be used against them eventually, either by the opposite side or their own. That these extremely ambiguous laws that they support can never be interpreted in unfair ways. So being hit so soon with such a stark reminder of the reality they deny is extremely fitting.

Censorship is literally a good thing when it targets Nazis. If you think the Nazis are going to somehow give us browny points for not censoring them, you're even more naive than i could even imagine… πŸ₯Ή

Syria had strict liability censorship with penalties to the first familial degree.

They still had a civil war.


Carl Schmitt wrote a whole book on how Nazis could exploit liberal democracy to gain power and then destroy it from inside, but nooo we must allow freeze peach for muh fascisterinos.

Karl Popper was right.

Karl Popper was right.

No he wasn't, ffs. Not in the way that every single liberal pro-censorship advocate thinks he. The entire point of Popper's paradox was that Popper was warning society of the dangers of arbitrarily declaring what tolerance and intolerance is and subsequently deciding what speech is acceptable. The whole point of the paradox is that his words were never supposed to be used a rulebook.

And what people don't take into account when discussing Popper's paradox is that you can still have intolerance within a tolerant society as long as there are clearly defined laws that punish violence and threatening speech. The U.S for the most part, actually does a pretty good job with this.

The funniest thing is that everyone who quotes Popper never applies his words to immigration for some reason, which actually has the chance to bring in more intolerant people who can eventually vote and change the laws of the land.

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oh wait it's not srd

Censorship is literally a good thing when it targets Nazis. If you think the Nazis are going to somehow give us browny points for not censoring them, you're even more naive than i could even imagine… πŸ₯Ή

HAHAHAHA of course this cute twink is into ABDL !chuds

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17251535061587076.webp

eeeeew /u/thescientus

AHHHHHHHHHH it's a :marseytrain: too :roflmao: of course it is !transphobes

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17251536119693856.webp

omg

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17251541207718787.webp

hahahahahahahaha :marseyrofl: another yaniv

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17251541209156525.webp

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Seeing an r-slured comment and looking into the guys profile only to find out he's a gigantic pervert is a classic /r/drama moment, just had some serious flashbacks here back to the olden days :marseysigh:

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All we're missing is the cow to come and graze upon our fields. In CrossTalk we trust :marseybegging:

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IT DIDNT WORK :tayaaa:

/u/thescientus

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this cute twink is into ABDL

:marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd::marseyxd: !ranchers !pedohunters

I ADMIT RDRAMA.NET, I CONFESS MY SINS:

I LOVE REDDIT :#marseysnoohug:

BECAUSE ONLY ON REDDIT YOU HAVE USERS WRITING SERIOUS POLITICAL ARGUMENTS AND DEBATES WITH THE SAME ACCOUNT THAT THEY USE FOR THEIR P-DO DIAPER SCAT FETISH :#marseydarkxd: :#marseysartre: :#to: :#marseykink:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1725153773694006.webp

:marseymanysuchcases:

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>46 trans femme (pre-op).

!transphobes is it just me or do the post-2022 wave of :marseytrain2:ism seem to be mainly midlife crisis old moids and porn addicts above the age of 40, instead of how before that, it was mainly zoomers who got sucked into Groomercord, are the tides changing for zoomerkind? :marseyhope:

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FtMs/enbies skew much younger and that's why the stereotype of zoomer girls who use Tumblr/groomercord and have a new identity label every few months is a thing.

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Nah thats the same wave.

Before covid lockdowns killed social interactions, trains were still relatively rare. If anything, midlife-crisi coomers were an even bigger share back then.

:marseytrain2:ed-out teens is a (post-)corona thing.

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!metashit !dramatards !ranchers I wonder if anyone in here has a leddit account to tell other stupidpol users that this user is a diaper-loving p-do :marseytrain2: who loves to shit himself in public, and wants to pull a Yaniv by making third-world poor immigrant women touch his shenis?, I do not mean immediately talking to the lolcow zxirself, because zxe would just run crying to bardfinn to suspend your account.

I am referring to first and foremost you making other stupidpolcels aware of who the people that recite this same copypasta mantra over and over are like in real-life, and then the stupidpolcels would confront him about why he loves to wear diapers and shit himself in public as a 46-year-old grown adult, and wants to cut his peepee off :marseyclueless:

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P-do? @X pull it up

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:siren:BARD BOT ALERT!:siren:Current streak was: 0 days 00 hours 35 minutes and 28 seconds

Record is 1 days 13 hours 09 minutes and 59 seconds by TheDunceonFlorist

newest bardfriend is credulous at 14:54 on 24-08-2024

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17251868417983603.webp

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>big4 accountant

Geeeeeg most normal pwcel

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I blame you for making me read this

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sorry bb :marseysingletear:

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Gross

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Why do these BIPOCs call everyone they don't like Nazis or fascists, it's like they haven't heard of the boy that cried wolf :marseywolf:

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we're having a communist revolution now solely so this freak of fricking nature can be given a spot in the ditch

:marseyleifeng::marseyredguard: :!marseybib:

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Yeah but those immigrants are voting for the right side of history chud

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>rdrama related subreddit ends up r-slurred

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>ends up

:marseyitneverbegan:

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Stupidpol is the closest thing to a good leftist sub but it fundamentally cannot get that perhaps sometimes you should pick your battles so you sound consistent. If they think the eternal capitalist is just around the corner, weaning down speech laws just isn't a good idea even if it's not directly happening to you at the moment. Similarly, stupidpol cant keep consistency besides "America bad" because every bit of moralistic hand wringing they take over Palestine they just shrug on Ukraine. Even the NAFO boys who c*m at the sight of an f-15 can say "Attacker country always bad" at least.

Basically if leftists weren't r-slurred (i repeat myself) I'd take them more seriously.

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Any foreigner: "American pigdog, I demand you ban and censor my political opponents"

Stupidpol: yeah own that chud elongated muskrat!

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Sometimes stupidpol contrarianism just can't settle on a side to pick

:#marseyseizure:

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but forget that Squidman is allied to the judge

Lmao, Moraes denied Squidward his Habeas Corpus back in 2018 and then voted to release him in 2021.

The careca has no friends. Reminder that ABAB, All Balds Are Bastards.

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So they backed down in less than a day? Lol what a b-word.

I love it when the Lula government gets humiliated :marseysatisfied:

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So they backed down in less than a day?

They only backed down on asking Google and Apple to remove VPNs from the appstores, you are still liable to a 50000 Reais (8000 USD) fine if you use VPNs to use Xitter.

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Wonder if Elon will allow Tor users

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Oh, so I can still expect more drama on the way, then.

This is even better :!#marseychuddance:

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Why is the money called Real if it's fake currency? :marseysmughips:

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A plus title game

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You are a real Carp. You have no fins, you have no gils, you have no eggs, but that doesn't matter. You are a valid drama user who is trying to feel comfortable in his body.

All the "validation" you get is pure. Behind your back people love you. Your parents are happy and proud of you, your friends laugh at your jokes behind closed doors, and boys love you, and girls envy you.

Men absolutely love you. Fish folk who "pass" look ordinary and natural to a dramanauts. Your bone structure does not matter.

You will be happy. You will smile every single morning and tell yourself it's going to be ok, and deep inside you feel the euphoria creeping up like a weed. It is what defines you, not the Carpphobes.

Eventually, it'll be perfect for you - you'll come out, start gill therapy, get fin surgery, and finally be your ideal self. Your parents will find you, happy and relieved that they finally have a happy fish. They'll congratulate you on your hard journey, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Carp is what you are.

Snapshots:

https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1f5bf6i/judge_suspends_x_platform_in_brazil_amid_feud/:

/r/Drama:

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I only lurked stupidpol because I was told it was a national Bolshevik subreddit

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