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When I see memes like OP's, I get the impression that anarchists have the exact same naive mentality as 19th century Marxists did, before their ideology was ever put to the test by the Paris Commune or Lenin."Like, man, if we just get rid of the bourgeoisie state, then everyone would just be chill and everyone would be free to pursue free development of all free market entrepreneurship in our classless stateless society. We've got nothing to lose but our chains governments."It's just so hopelessly naive. I can't believe dudes in their 40s have this childish mentality. (-1)

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Anarchy: All of the evils of statism but with the added benefit of nobody to point at (-1)

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Capitalism is also a guarantee that vast amounts will be stolen, So what's the point? (-1)

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Government is a guarantee that one set of criminals will defaud you all the time, kidnap and injure a small minority of its own population on occasion, and kill a yet smaller minority of that population on occasion.Governments control gigantic territories, and weak ones have wide swathes of that territory where rival sets of criminals flout their authority and do as they please to the locals - which often includes a lot more killing, injury, kidnapping and stealing per capita than the alternative they displaced. If a government is only capable of persecuting civilians and not rival sets of criminals in its own borders, it is called anarcho-tyranny in the minor form and warlordism in the metastasized form. By that metric, America today is a weak nation, certainly weaker than it was in 1970, and certainly weaker than many famous nations (eg. Japan, China, Singapore), but not so weak as Warlord Era China, modern Sudan, Somalia, etcetera.Anarchy is a guarantee that not only will one set... (0)

We can make it 100% punished.You even think that the State is a criminal entity. Why do you want to be ruled by people who violate the 10 commandments? Not even Jesus Christ would have wanted a Christian Commonwealth to be one where the leaders steal from their subjects; Jesus is the king of kings yet did not steal from anyone.Washington D.C. conducts a literal impoverishment campaign: 2% price inflation goal is literal impoversihment.Can you tell me why Hamburg was undisturbed by constant raids in the HRE and why trade happened well within the HRE? Roads were successfully funded in spite of the decentralized order.Statism is constant war, only that the subjects have no recourse. (1)

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Government is a guarantee that one set of criminals will defaud you all the time, kidnap and injure a small minority of its own population on occasion, and kill a yet smaller minority of that population on occasion.Governments control gigantic territories, and weak ones have wide swathes of that territory where rival sets of criminals flout their authority and do as they please to the locals - which often includes a lot more killing, injury, kidnapping and stealing per capita than the alternative they displaced. If a government is only capable of persecuting civilians and not rival sets of criminals in its own borders, it is called anarcho-tyranny in the minor form and warlordism in the metastasized form. By that metric, America today is a weak nation, certainly weaker than it was in 1970, and certainly weaker than many famous nations (eg. Japan, China, Singapore), but not so weak as Warlord Era China, modern Sudan, Somalia, etcetera.Anarchy is a guarantee that not only will one set... (0)

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We can make it 100% punished.You even think that the State is a criminal entity. Why do you want to be ruled by people who violate the 10 commandments? Not even Jesus Christ would have wanted a Christian Commonwealth to be one where the leaders steal from their subjects; Jesus is the king of kings yet did not steal from anyone.Washington D.C. conducts a literal impoverishment campaign: 2% price inflation goal is literal impoversihment.Can you tell me why Hamburg was undisturbed by constant raids in the HRE and why trade happened well within the HRE? Roads were successfully funded in spite of the decentralized order.Statism is constant war, only that the subjects have no recourse. (1)

By whom?All states are criminal organizations because they engage in crime by their very nature. Any organized minority appointed to administer a population is in fact a state. And yes, gangs are just mini-states with fuzzy borders.If you dissolve a state, you don't get nothingness where civil society can prosper without the burden of taxation, you get a power vacuum that will be colonized by mini-states, who will then proceed to conquer each other until they become "proper" states.Would I rather be ruled by 1 tyrant a thousand miles away (not counting his army of henchmen, most of whom are even further away) or by 50 tyrants within ten miles (whose henchmen are all very close as well)? Hard to figure out.You know, I usually sneer at reddit atheists, but in this case I gotta ask, if your sky daddy doesn't enforce penalties on you at any point prior to the afterlife, then of what use is he as a king, as a protector of men? Myths do not make power - people make myths to justify power.... (0)

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The notion of anarchy as a viable political system is such nonsense that it is barely even worth arguing against. The first warlord who manages to put together a thousand armed people will cleave right through your anarchy like a knife through butter and turn you into slaves. How are you going to stop his disciplined, coordinated hierarchical military system with your crowd of loosely coordinated individuals? Personal nukes? Haha, yeah good luck with that.

>Guy sleeps with other guy's girlfriend

>Jealous guy nukes his entire commune in response

"Aha, so let's put together some kind of centralized system to safeguard and control our nukes!"

Yeah, there's a name for that...

Political ideologies that depend on an overwhelming majority of people being nice and not defecting for their own personal benefit are not worth taking seriously.

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pls learn your zomian hill folk history ty!!!! (โ›โ—กห‚ฬต ฬ‘ฬ‘โœง)

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Hehe, not optimum for anarchists if one of their best examples of a functioning anarchist society could get easily destroyed by states in a few weeks if states decided that it was worth the effort.

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>survived for 2,000 years

>"but they'd totally get wiped out in a few weeks!"

hehe okay! ( เน‘โ€พฬ€โ—กโ€พฬ)โœจ

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these all caps are so not cute (โ€ขฬ€โค™โ€ขฬ )

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Anarchy would work in a high trust society

There I said it

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Every system works if you include not having problems in the definition

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Sure, but what wouldn't?

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sooo a homogenous society? (b แต”โ–ฝแต”)b

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Remember: every homogeneous civilization came from a heterogenous one

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hehehe silly boy! ( เฉญ ห˜ ยณห˜)เฉญยฐ๏ฝกโ‹†โ™กโ€งโ‚Šหš

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https://old.reddit.com/r/neofeudalism/comments/1fli7wp/statists_cant_understand_this/:

When I see memes like OP's, I get the impression that anarchists have the exact same naive mentality as 19th century Marxists did, before their ideology was ever put to the test by the Paris Commune or Lenin."Like, man, if we just get rid of the bourgeoisie state, then everyone would just be chill and everyone would be free to pursue free development of all free market entrepreneurship in our classless stateless society. We've got nothing to lose but our chains governments."It's just so hopelessly naive. I can't believe dudes in their 40s have this childish mentality.:

Anarchy: All of the evils of statism but with the added benefit of nobody to point at:

Capitalism is also a guarantee that vast amounts will be stolen, So what's the point?:

We can make it 100% punished.You even think that the State is a criminal entity. Why do you want to be ruled by people who violate the 10 commandments? Not even Jesus Christ would have wanted a Christian Commonwealth to be one where the leaders steal from their subjects; Jesus is the king of kings yet did not steal from anyone.Washington D.C. conducts a literal impoverishment campaign: 2% price inflation goal is literal impoversihment.Can you tell me why Hamburg was undisturbed by constant raids in the HRE and why trade happened well within the HRE? Roads were successfully funded in spite of the decentralized order.Statism is constant war, only that the subjects have no recourse.:

Government is a guarantee that one set of criminals will defaud you all the time, kidnap and injure a small minority of its own population on occasion, and kill a yet smaller minority of that population on occasion.Governments control gigantic territories, and weak ones have wide swathes of that territory where rival sets of criminals flout their authority and do as they please to the locals - which often includes a lot more killing, injury, kidnapping and stealing per capita than the alternative they displaced. If a government is only capable of persecuting civilians and not rival sets of criminals in its own borders, it is called anarcho-tyranny in the minor form and warlordism in the metastasized form. By that metric, America today is a weak nation, certainly weaker than it was in 1970, and certainly weaker than many famous nations (eg. Japan, China, Singapore), but not so weak as Warlord Era China, modern Sudan, Somalia, etcetera.Anarchy is a guarantee that not only will one set...:

By whom?All states are criminal organizations because they engage in crime by their very nature. Any organized minority appointed to administer a population is in fact a state. And yes, gangs are just mini-states with fuzzy borders.If you dissolve a state, you don't get nothingness where civil society can prosper without the burden of taxation, you get a power vacuum that will be colonized by mini-states, who will then proceed to conquer each other until they become "proper" states.Would I rather be ruled by 1 tyrant a thousand miles away (not counting his army of henchmen, most of whom are even further away) or by 50 tyrants within ten miles (whose henchmen are all very close as well)? Hard to figure out.You know, I usually sneer at reddit atheists, but in this case I gotta ask, if your sky daddy doesn't enforce penalties on you at any point prior to the afterlife, then of what use is he as a king, as a protector of men? Myths do not make power - people make myths to justify power....:

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If "peaceful parenting makes a peaceful society", then why is western Europe, who is mostly against spanking -- demonstrated by their anti-spanking laws -- some of the most statist people in the world?

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daily reminder that tolkien๐Ÿ’ was an anarcho-monarchist, the true evolian๐Ÿง organic state ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ‘‘

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This is an exaggeration of his views. Don't read too much Lew Rockwell like I did twenty years ago

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Proof that there is a second horseshoe :marseyhorseshoe: for libertarianism-authoritarianism.

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To be fair, unlike anarchists, libertarians generally acknowledge that there has to be a strong but limited government to do stuff like national defense, law enforcement, and enforcing contracts between individuals.

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