MarioMemer giga/boosted Mario Bros. Represent!  23d ago (x.com) 793 thread views #303611

Anyone notice how Wikipedians have revamped the John Money page?

https://x.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1747688197868413291

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

It went from "most influential doctor ever" to "every train hates him (ignore how we still cite him)"

Also

"John Money is proof you cant change a trans person's identity"

The kid wasnt even trans! The kid was cisgender, the activists still call the kid trans

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Despite widespread popular belief, Money did not coin the term gender identity

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And yet if you read the source, you'll find that the first definition of "gender identity" is explicitly based on sexual reality compared to Money's definition which more closely resembles gender ideology. Compare Stoller and Greenson's definitions

Gender identity is the sense of knowing to which s*x one belongs, that is, the awareness 'I am a male' or 'I am a female'

Gender identity refers to one's sense of being a member of a particular s*x; it is expressed clinically in the awareness of being a man or a male in distinction to being a woman or a female.

vs Money's

The sameness, unity, and persistence of one's individuality as male or female (or ambivalent), in greater or lesser degree, especially as experienced in self-awareness and behavior. Gender identity is the private experience of gender role, and gender role is the public expression of gender identity.

He does claim that someone else came up with the term (presumably with that definition), but also implies that she did so in private correspondences with him which would explain why no one else was able to find it.

Gender identity, to the best of my knowledge, was first proposed by Evelyn Hooker. I recall its appearance in an exchange of correspondence I had with her in reference to her homosexual studies.

These freaks think it's OK to lie to you. John Money technically didn't invent the term, but for all intents and purposes he did.

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Author Janet Frame attended some of Money's classes at the University of Otago, as part of her teacher training. Frame was attracted to Money, and eager to please him.[26] In October 1945, after Frame wrote an essay mentioning her thoughts of suicide,[27] Money convinced Frame to enter the psychiatric ward at Dunedin Public Hospital, where she was misdiagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia.[28][29] Frame then spent eight years in psychiatric institutions, during which she was subjected to electroshock and insulin shock therapy.[30][29] Frame narrowly missed being lobotomized.[31][29][30] In Frame's autobiography, An Angel at My Table, Money is referred to as John Forrest.

NO FRICKING WAY THAT WAS JOHN MONEY???

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Anthony is repulsive

!transphobes

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I just dont get the denial in these cases

america was founded by slave owners blah blah

but they were still the founding fathers for better or worse

gender ideology was partly founded by this guy John Money as a fact, denying only gives more ammo to people like me or you lol

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Nah.

These are mostly the exact same r-slurs that think the founding of America was one of the top 5 the worst things in human history. Any form of nuance is heretical to them.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/1cdna86/cass_review_releases_new_faqs/ Also i found this and apprently Hilary Cass made fun of him

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:#marseygivecrown:

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https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/1fqi5k1/a_study_of_139829_students_in_finland_found_that/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1ccqbdp/activistblogger_erin_reed_cant_stop_telling/

Lol

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John Money is proof you cant change a trans person's identity

LMAO this is your brain on Science(TM). Literally one case study but that's enough to conclude a range of wide-sweeping statements apply to the entire human population (everyone has an innate gender identity, it can't be changed by any means, a mismatch between your gender identity and s*x will make you keep yourself safe). I mean, maybe the fact that Reimer was sexually abused by Money and put on an experimental hormone protocol was a contributing factor? Maybe a completely different person who hasn't been subjected to either of those things would be less inclined to off himself? Nah, this is enough to say that gender affirming care is necessary and life saving and the Science(TM) is settled

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If he proved that changing a persons gender identity causes them to suicide, doesn't that mean both

>transing a cissie is bad

>cissing a train is bad

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he proved if you molest a kid they grow up fricked in the head. I could have told you that

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Yeah why do you think I post here

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I think he just proved that doing horrible Mengele-style experiments on someone, will make them sad :marseydepressed:

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That's how TRAs rationalize it so it fits their world view but he messed those kids up in more ways than just treating one of them like a girl, and a single study with dubious methodology isn't really enough to prove the whole trans ideology is correct.

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his idea of "treating them like a girl" was making his brother simulate intercourse with him (clothed, but still :marseyyikes:) which... yeah

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Maybe if you include another observation, that the vast majority of current day :!marseytrain:s come from social contagion

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https://x.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1747688197868413291:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money:

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