labor and relations has finally banned the use of vacation time as sick time. the wagies are enraged, they can't accept the fact they won't be able to call out 9x a month anymore.
Fricking r-slurs are gonna have to work for a living.
after months of my bitching
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You can request vacation time. You cant call out and then use vacation time after the fact anymore.
The issue is vacations are planned - they can be covered out. Some guy calling out 6 times in a week and using vacation time cannot be covered out and is not planned.
Managers just wont approve the vacation time use anymore.
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I don't think this is going to work like you think it will work. Wagies will get fired or leave, and still get paid out their vacation time once they do. They don't care as long as they get $$$, they'll find another shit job to suck at.
The revolving door of irresponsible workers will continue, only now it's noobs that are being trained from the ground up and causing experienced workers more stress, just to repeat the process of hire-fire/leave.
$$$ does not correlate to work ethic.
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I dont care if they get paid out lol. The payout isnt the issue, its the 7 call outs a month.
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They should get fired for excessive absences. Getting paid for time off by using PTO doesn't absolve them of excessive call-outs.
You have a problem with management not doing their jobs and holding employees accountable. It has nothing to do with getting paid for the time off, but you made it about that instead?
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BIPOC using vacation time counted as protected time meaning you couldnt hold them accountable.
The "you can take action" point is 4 call outs in 1 month that arent covered by protected time.
Nothing i said was ever about the pay outs.
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Where the heck are you or what shithole global corporation do you work for that using vacation time retroactively is protected from discipline for calling out?
I'm being real here Pizza, serious WTF. I'm in freedomcommieland and even we don't protect that.
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PTO rules can get real fricky (at least in burgerland), especially in places with more employee protections like unions and government. Think of it more as 2 separate, almost reasonable, things that went through separately - 1) vacation days can be used as sick days 2) sick days are protected.
Union bullshiticus
People just happen to have protected retroactive vacation days, and why shouldn't they?
Meanwhile at the tuna cannery down the highway they fire your officially for being 5 minutes late once and replace you with a Mexican (they just wanted to fire you and replace you with a Mexican.)
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Whatever is happening where he is, it's for real blowing my fricking mind.
I've been in burgerland my entire life and working since I was a teenager. From the day I was a legal employee, whether shitty warehouse jobs or up to corpo white collar, it's always been:
sick time is protected (if you get any)
vacation/PTO is paid (if you get any). Protected when scheduled, but not protected for unscheduled time off
5 minutes late is a write-up or potential firing
I genuinely don't understand "use PTO for unscheduled time off and you're totally cool and exempt from punishment".
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You have obviously not been wagiemaxxing
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Fricking kroger. Idk if its fred meyer specific or what but labor and relations was allowing it.
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Kroger/FM is a burger-only company (from what I can tell from a quick Google). That means your state is the one without effective labor laws, and allows the corpos to do what they want (within reason).
You just gave Kroger/FM more money to hold in their accounts until the inevitable firing/payout, and incentivized wagies to turnover even more quickly.
That's not gonna fix anything, sorry to say. I get that it feels like a win because slackers are punished more quickly, but lack of ethics/commitment happens whether they get paid or not.
You'll still have senior employees at work being pulled from their duties to train new slacker wagies who don't care and frick off all the time, and mid-level employees forced to pick up the excess duties because there's no one else even marginally competent.
What would be better is either getting corpo to agree that PTO used for non-scheduled absences is no longer protected/excused under performance guidelines, or working to change labor laws in your state to something similar. Frick the corpos AND the freeloaders. Your work life is still going to be shit wall-to-wall anyway, make them all suffer.
After that ... find a way to force mid-level and upper-level managers to be held accountable for employee performance instead of getting sucked off or smoked out in the bathroom to look the other way. That's some long-game shit that will actually make a difference.
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not reading your substack
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