CMV: the black people at my college are starting to make me feel racist (NOT JANNIED)

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It is due to race and it is the majority of black people. In fact, being in college, you're meeting a less feral slice of that population. Your feelings are true and valid

Jannied. Here's the archive

This gaslamping shit right here, that crops up everytime you nootice, is a major contributor to people chudding out.

I agree with what there saying. I have literally neve seen an actual african (eggcept south africa) chimp out. It's always "black people" living in US, Europe, Asia who are like this. I'm starting to think that Africa intentionally keeps all the normal africans to themselves while discarding all the violent murders and male feminists on rest of us.

My ex is a black woman, and she and her mother were the most educated on that side of the family. Her cousins would call her all sorts of vile things for 'acting white' and 'acting like you're better than us.' And by 'acting white', they meant things like being queer, getting a college degree, refusing to say slurs, and not having any children early.

I mean, you're describing college kids in general, but attributing the bad behavior explicitly to the Black students, which is, well... racist.

lmaooo

"uh the other students at your college are like that too you just don't notice it for uhhhh beacuse"

I'm gonna double post bc this one is just so r-slurred

It is not up to us to learn how to operate in their culture. If their culture is that of being inconsiderate and chaotic, its them who needs to change.

This only works if they werent forced to come here against their will.

What do you think should be done? Neither former slaves nor slavers are alive today.

Should the entire country descend into chaos because of bad history or should we strive to do better?

Its up to people now to get their own lives together and stop behaving like this

Well, in other countries, they would see the conditions visited upon the descendants of former slaves and they would consider it a national shame that needs to be fixed. Im doing the work in my personal life and community, but that doesn't change 400 years of systematic oppression because this whole their dead now argument means less than nothing when the ramifications are still just as deep, my mother who has earned a terminal degree lived through segregated schools- Ive personally seen and avoided the school to prison pipeline on my own path to higher education and community impact. How are you helping other than telling black people it isent as bad as we think it is, just like the white moderates that allowed the rise of the kkk and tens of thousands of extrajudicial lynchings and mass economic terrorism is communities like Greenwood, Seneca village, and other sites of massacres in wealthy black communities. Its always somebody saying we arent working hard enough like a generation didnt lay down their lifes for the black power movement, and the civil rights movement and Vietnam and ww2 without benefiting from the GI Bill.

How much black blood must be spilled for America to determine that it is a horror and travesty that our nation has NEVER lived up to its premise. We've payed our due, this is a problem for all Americans not just black people.

You don't need to read the whole wall of text. The argument is that "in other countries" they would have reparations for slavery and make sure former slaves are made whole and given lots of programs or some shit.

Such a comical lack of awareness of the world outside the US.

OP, this isn't due to race but a normalizing of these behaviors from a culture. So much so that it has been ingrained in the identity of said group. Should one act differently, they will be criticized as acting as some out group. "Talking / acting white" is a common pejorative used in anyone who doesn't act similar. They will be ostracized or conform.

The best way to think about this is the understand there are groups of all races who act like this. You just haven't interacted with them enough. Plenty of trailer parks are filled with loud white people who care little for any societal rule that doesn't benefit them. They just don't get to college. Same with every other race.

You will feel this same pressure eventually. And you will likely conform to fit in. It is natural. You may not even realize you are doing it.

>OP, you're right but don't mind them, you will eventually become white trash yourself

I am proud of you. You are being curious. Your post says one thing but means another. Your post says "I am arriving at X conclusion" and the subtext is that you suspect that conclusion is wrong, but what you really mean is "Yall I am curious why the heck I am having such a wack experience. It don't make no sense!"

I love your curiosity. And I think you are right, something is wack. But it isn't racial. It is cultural. You know black people. It isn't genetics that makes anyone behave in this confounding way, it is the culture they come from, which is SHOCKINGLY different than your own. So in the face of this shocking difference, the first go-to human reaction is to hate difference. The next might be curiosity. Third might be understanding. Then lastly compassion. So lets go slide along that track.

Imagine the laundromat where they live. People camped out. Claiming spots. No one caring about each other. Everyone fighting for everything. Maybe you have to get all up in someone's face to get a machine. Maybe people are dumping each other's clothes on the floor. Aaaaaaand maybe you are judging all that as "wrong" but but but, what if it isn't? What if a whole culture lived like that, without respect for each other, or an agreement to make things work? And what if that was a viable way to live? Your judging it likely stems from two different fundamental world views that at their base are polar opposites: "The System works for me and people like me" versus "The system does not work for me and people like me". Imagine how differently you might feel about society if you had lived your whole life knowing that on any day at any time for no reason at all that the police might arrest you, simply for the color of your skin, and in fact might kill you, and you had no way to 100% avoid this outcome. The system is against you. And that is the extreme version of it, but imagine that there are a million microaggressions that convey to you that the system isn't for you, it is for "them". Worse, imagine knowing that any and all your efforts to make the system better will not work. The system will always be against you. That would really discourage you from trying to make the system work, any system. you would instead focus on getting what you needed, and disregarding others. You are encountering people who have come from a culture like that. And you may want to counter that they should adopt your culture, of respect and mutually-shared-agreement to make a system-that-works, and you might make them wrong in your mind for not sharing those values. But they make YOU wrong for naively not knowing that the system doesn't work for everyone. They might retort to you "fix the system for EVERYONE and then I will support it." And boom there you are. Life isn't fair. You are not going to move their position at a fundamental level because their pov isn't wrong. The system is fundamentally borked. You just lived on the side of it where life mostly worked for everyone, and everyone had buy in.

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@Rescarer0 bro, if there was ever a context for an exception

https://rdrama.net/h/meta/post/311459/proposal-ban-anyone-who-says-racist

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https://old.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1gf4vgz/cmv_the_black_people_at_my_college_are_starting/:

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