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Nick Fuentes says he loves Game of Thrones and hates Lord of the Rings..
— π΅βοΈ (@DelGroyp) October 30, 2024
"I don't care if Game of Thrones is reddit, it's awesome. F* ggΠΎt hobbits.β pic.twitter.com/4Uj68i7sB4
Redscare approved take.
Heβs so right about GoT. Epic yet no detail spared. Great casting. Best costumes. Love the shameless stereotyping of North vs South. White Walker subplot legit one of the scariest things to appear on TV in recent history. Faithful depictions of political scheming and intrigue byβ¦ https://t.co/VQvYKr9Fjb
β Anna Khachiyan (@annakhachiyan) October 30, 2024
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I honestly think that prefering GoT over LoTR just indicates that the person in question never read LoTR or watched it in the first place.
My proof for this is that whenever people get asked to make the comparison they'll usually just say that LoTR is too 'high fantasy' and 'whimsical' but they're saying this about the story where one of the most recognizable characters is literally just a hideously mutated cannibal freak and everyone's at war with a brutish, evil horde of mutilated elves.
People then praise GoT for its darkness and 'realism' to the point I actually held off from the series since all I heard about it was "everyone's constantly dying of gangrene, syphillis and aids" under the assumption that it'd be kind of boring to watch a show about characters who're all too inbred, evil or sickly to care about. But then I watched a bit of it and it's literally the same as every other competently written story. I fricking hate normans so much I hope whoever entertains this r-slurred comparison gets r*ped to death by pitbulls and used to make gutter oil.
Both are fine and these attempts at comparing them are r-slurred because they're simply completely different stories written by competent authors. It'd probably make more sense to just compare twilight to anne rice books or something.
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i watched the trilogy in high school but it never gripped me like GoT.
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The "realism" of ASoIaF is a fricking meme. On the face of it it's a modestly researched take on a pseudo-medieval setting, but when examined even a little it all falls apart. It defies logic how people on Westeroos survive considering how suicidally r-slurred they are. For example: winters last for years and agriculture seemingly just stops, but everyone is competing to see who can destroy their food stores first and allow them all to starve to death sooner. The scale is all wack, population sizes don't make sense, the militaries don't make sense, the locations of cities don't make sense. Most of the CULTURES don't make sense. It's all r-slurred.
This is a mere taste, I can link you to some literature on the subject if you're interested.
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Sure, I'm interested, send me these fabled texts on the implausibility of Westeros!
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https://acoup.blog/
Here's something to sink your teeth into. Several wordswordswords posts about a bunch of shit spread over disparate tags amidst general historical spergery.
start here: https://acoup.blog/2019/05/28/new-acquisitions-not-how-it-was-game-of-thrones-and-the-middle-ages-part-i/
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Nah, I did read lotr while I was at highschool and loved it. And watched the GoT when I was an adult, I prefer GoT. Lotr literally looks like marvel to me now. Le good guys win le epic fight yet again because they are the le Good guys.
It's good for introductory fantasy, but when you have more refined tastes you want something that is different and hits different.
Modern lotr content is literally reddit marvel shit, it's slop.
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I actually prefer GoT but it is definitely the lesser work. Book 4 and 5 showed a noticeable drop in quality and the man is clearly lost meandering through his poorly defined universe. Tolkien put a lot more thought into his world building, that's for sure. Which is why I'm still outraged whenever I think of GRRM asking about Aragorn's tax policy.
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This is the most r-slur brainlet thing Ive ever read on this site
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Thank you, I try to be contrarian as possible :
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There's a lot of layers to Tolkien's Legendarium and most of it is based on Catholic morality, natural law, providence, and felix culpa
There is no modern LoTR content, JRRT died in the 70s
!catholics
GRRM made a story that's morally gray which is fine for a novel but not for the mythology that Tolkien was making
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(although Christopher still counts, he redacted Silmarilion).
I lost any interest in GoT when reading it as a kid and book 2 ended same as it began. Ain't waiting 20 years and reading 2000 pages just for nothing to change again.
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I don't know, GoT strikes me as a kind of equal and opposite form of immaturity from what I've seen. It's really just edgier and pretends to play at how feudalism was like irl, but even that ends up leading to it being "fantasy with big boy pants" because Danaerys gets turbodiarrhea, so I'm not really sure what the 'synthesis' here would be.
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I do like the imagery associated with that part, for as much as it gets shat (
) on.
She's been playing at being a liberator-queen, balancing politics with people she doesn't like or care to understand, married some cucked Ghiscari noble who doesn't arouse her in any way... and then she throws everything away.
It's just her and her bonded dragon, feasting on this charred carcass in the middle of the steppe, ripping chunks of gore out with her bare hands and teeth. Motivated by hunger, sure, but she luxuriates in it while thinking of how her arranged husband would be horrified at the sight.
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Or I want something with any level of depth. LOTR is just "Even guy does evil thing cuz he's evil, good guy does good things because good".
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That can be applied to a lot of GoT's characters.
Cersei is an incestuous narcissist who always planned to cuckold whichever husband she got because she just is, (book) Euron casually tortures and kills most of his own family because he can, nearly every Ghiscari noble is an unrelenting piece of shit even when they have nothing to gain and quite a lot to lose from it because their culture is just that repugnant, the Boltons love flaying people and r*pe their subjects as they please for no particular reason, Littlefinger likes power for its own sake, and the White Walkers are currently just Ice Terminators.
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I mean you're reading the story from the perspective of the good guys. Another thing I think you missed is how even LoTR basically brings up how everyone's pretty much only banded up together this once to face the existential threat. It probably makes sense to do so when the other side's just "I want to destroy and ruin everything indiscriminately".
Like it's less that they're 'good' and more that they're just not r-slurred or nihilistic like that.
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I don't have enough spoons to read this shit
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