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Nick Fuentes says he loves Game of Thrones and hates Lord of the Rings..
— π΅βοΈ (@DelGroyp) October 30, 2024
"I don't care if Game of Thrones is reddit, it's awesome. F* ggΠΎt hobbits.β pic.twitter.com/4Uj68i7sB4
Redscare approved take.
Heβs so right about GoT. Epic yet no detail spared. Great casting. Best costumes. Love the shameless stereotyping of North vs South. White Walker subplot legit one of the scariest things to appear on TV in recent history. Faithful depictions of political scheming and intrigue byβ¦ https://t.co/VQvYKr9Fjb
β Anna Khachiyan (@annakhachiyan) October 30, 2024
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Fuentes wants to see a trad evropa settlement (Tolkien depicted his ideal England with the Shire) be razed to the ground and supports the thirdie invasive forces that destroy and maim everything in their wake?
Not surprising
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Lowkey he's spitting
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No hes not, cute twink
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Ironic since he's a manlet and strag.
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I honestly think that prefering GoT over LoTR just indicates that the person in question never read LoTR or watched it in the first place.
My proof for this is that whenever people get asked to make the comparison they'll usually just say that LoTR is too 'high fantasy' and 'whimsical' but they're saying this about the story where one of the most recognizable characters is literally just a hideously mutated cannibal freak and everyone's at war with a brutish, evil horde of mutilated elves.
People then praise GoT for its darkness and 'realism' to the point I actually held off from the series since all I heard about it was "everyone's constantly dying of gangrene, syphillis and aids" under the assumption that it'd be kind of boring to watch a show about characters who're all too inbred, evil or sickly to care about. But then I watched a bit of it and it's literally the same as every other competently written story. I fricking hate normans so much I hope whoever entertains this r-slurred comparison gets r*ped to death by pitbulls and used to make gutter oil.
Both are fine and these attempts at comparing them are r-slurred because they're simply completely different stories written by competent authors. It'd probably make more sense to just compare twilight to anne rice books or something.
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i watched the trilogy in high school but it never gripped me like GoT.
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The "realism" of ASoIaF is a fricking meme. On the face of it it's a modestly researched take on a pseudo-medieval setting, but when examined even a little it all falls apart. It defies logic how people on Westeroos survive considering how suicidally r-slurred they are. For example: winters last for years and agriculture seemingly just stops, but everyone is competing to see who can destroy their food stores first and allow them all to starve to death sooner. The scale is all wack, population sizes don't make sense, the militaries don't make sense, the locations of cities don't make sense. Most of the CULTURES don't make sense. It's all r-slurred.
This is a mere taste, I can link you to some literature on the subject if you're interested.
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Sure, I'm interested, send me these fabled texts on the implausibility of Westeros!
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https://acoup.blog/
Here's something to sink your teeth into. Several wordswordswords posts about a bunch of shit spread over disparate tags amidst general historical spergery.
start here: https://acoup.blog/2019/05/28/new-acquisitions-not-how-it-was-game-of-thrones-and-the-middle-ages-part-i/
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Nah, I did read lotr while I was at highschool and loved it. And watched the GoT when I was an adult, I prefer GoT. Lotr literally looks like marvel to me now. Le good guys win le epic fight yet again because they are the le Good guys.
It's good for introductory fantasy, but when you have more refined tastes you want something that is different and hits different.
Modern lotr content is literally reddit marvel shit, it's slop.
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I actually prefer GoT but it is definitely the lesser work. Book 4 and 5 showed a noticeable drop in quality and the man is clearly lost meandering through his poorly defined universe. Tolkien put a lot more thought into his world building, that's for sure. Which is why I'm still outraged whenever I think of GRRM asking about Aragorn's tax policy.
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This is the most r-slur brainlet thing Ive ever read on this site
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Thank you, I try to be contrarian as possible :
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There's a lot of layers to Tolkien's Legendarium and most of it is based on Catholic morality, natural law, providence, and felix culpa
There is no modern LoTR content, JRRT died in the 70s
!catholics
GRRM made a story that's morally gray which is fine for a novel but not for the mythology that Tolkien was making
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(although Christopher still counts, he redacted Silmarilion).
I lost any interest in GoT when reading it as a kid and book 2 ended same as it began. Ain't waiting 20 years and reading 2000 pages just for nothing to change again.
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I don't know, GoT strikes me as a kind of equal and opposite form of immaturity from what I've seen. It's really just edgier and pretends to play at how feudalism was like irl, but even that ends up leading to it being "fantasy with big boy pants" because Danaerys gets turbodiarrhea, so I'm not really sure what the 'synthesis' here would be.
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I do like the imagery associated with that part, for as much as it gets shat (
) on.
She's been playing at being a liberator-queen, balancing politics with people she doesn't like or care to understand, married some cucked Ghiscari noble who doesn't arouse her in any way... and then she throws everything away.
It's just her and her bonded dragon, feasting on this charred carcass in the middle of the steppe, ripping chunks of gore out with her bare hands and teeth. Motivated by hunger, sure, but she luxuriates in it while thinking of how her arranged husband would be horrified at the sight.
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Or I want something with any level of depth. LOTR is just "Even guy does evil thing cuz he's evil, good guy does good things because good".
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That can be applied to a lot of GoT's characters.
Cersei is an incestuous narcissist who always planned to cuckold whichever husband she got because she just is, (book) Euron casually tortures and kills most of his own family because he can, nearly every Ghiscari noble is an unrelenting piece of shit even when they have nothing to gain and quite a lot to lose from it because their culture is just that repugnant, the Boltons love flaying people and r*pe their subjects as they please for no particular reason, Littlefinger likes power for its own sake, and the White Walkers are currently just Ice Terminators.
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I mean you're reading the story from the perspective of the good guys. Another thing I think you missed is how even LoTR basically brings up how everyone's pretty much only banded up together this once to face the existential threat. It probably makes sense to do so when the other side's just "I want to destroy and ruin everything indiscriminately".
Like it's less that they're 'good' and more that they're just not r-slurred or nihilistic like that.
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I don't have enough spoons to read this shit
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Not enough gay s*x in LotR for Nick
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Nick probably thinks Brokeback Mountain is a trad rural story about tough guys living a redpilled country life
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It is
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Legolas and Gimli are a way better power couple than weak strags of GoT
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The ultimate chud fantasy is Niven's stuff cause hes a giga coomer furry eugenics chud who worked with Regan and told the bush department of homeland security !chuds
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How about
!g*mers
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Nah. It could have been something special. But gw is trash company ran by trash people
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You know, it's funny whenever people try to paint the Imperium as "fascist", except in-context literally everything the Emperor has ever done has been objectively correct.
15,000 years ago humanity got its chance at a progressive liberal utopia, and it failed. Not saying it would fail in real life, but in the warhammer universe their super progressive society got overran by AI uprisings, demons, and shit like that.
All the "bad" things in the current 40k setting that the government does are all there for a good reason, to stop the mistakes of the past from happening again.
!nooticers !truthnuke
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The Emperor's actual designs all failed, it is no one's fault but his own that he's practically a ghost trapped in his own mummified corpse.
The system that emerged after him contradicts everything he wanted and is itself the result of millennia of institutional inertia and bureaucratic creep: the Sisters of Battle exist as a legal loophole, for example.
Yeah, 40k isn't the kind of setting where multiculti Star Trek utopia is supposed to work (this is all an excuse for a miniatures wargame, 'member?), but the tone of everything about the Imperium is that it's a crumbling mess on the verge of imploding and led by at times utterly irrational actors (when they aren't actually fifth columnists). It does a lot of shit for no good reason, because that's the point of the setting. That and ripping ideas from 2000 AD.
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Yeah, but the concepts of "racism good" are independent of whatever frick-ups the Emperor's plans had. The backstory establishes that humanity tried to be Star Trek and failed. That's all I was getting at.
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Yeah, racism good because it's a wargame (and they ripped off TomΓ‘s de Torquemada from 2000 AD).
You need the factions to always be butting heads so players have coherent reasons to play any combination match they want.
This is also why the Imperium and every other faction has so much internal conflict, it's all about giving reasons for why your dudes are fighting the opponent's dudes.
Basically, you're reading too much into a piece of fiction that's about Space Nazi Catholics fighting Egyptian Cyborg-Terminator Aliens fighting Elves fighting Space Heck that's ripped from Moorpeepee.
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!besties we got utterly cucked on models for the Admech
No xenotech Ryza Forge incels nor super serious Metallica gigachuds. Just stratagems and 3 line blurbs.
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If I recall the actual correct take is that the Emperor is r-slurred and evil because he also sowed the seeds of humanity's ruin because he didn't use common sense to see that they might not go according to plan. It's like making it so that everyone worldwide hears a brownnote every 24 hours so you just give everyone diapers to cover up your mistake. Like sure, it's "correct" but you made it happen in the first place.
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What
Maybe theres some super super obscure book that reveals some very small factoid but the gist of it is
"Robots bad, AI bad, no robots. Psychics bad, summon demons, no psychics. Everyone must work all the time, or the trillions of angry bugs and orks and demons will kill us."
The average "media-literate" nonchud reading this isn't going to go much deeper than that.
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Look man, the emperor was there for all human history are you trying to say that he couldn't have predicted or prevented at least half of that. God why don't you go prolapse your butt and then pat yourself on the back when you wear a diaper to shield everyone from your messy innards.
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5/10 bait, got too argumentative too fast, please see me after class
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Yeah yeah I hope you get r*ped again too cute twink
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That's another thing lol, it's xenophobic for a really, really good reason. In-universe the objectively correct course of action is to be a racist gigachud, or all of humanity dies. It almost reads like porn for hyperconservatives given how objectively correct all the hyperconservatives in the 40k universe are.
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IDK if that's the correct way of framing it. Chuddery qua chuddery is a very modern condition, equally as inappropriate for importation into fantastic settings as wokery. Not that anyone cares about things like this when there's elections being stolen and news media biased against trump and the jews and he said you can grab em by the kitty.
I think the "porn for hyperconservatives" bit is overstated, though. It's porn for the xenophobes of 1650, at the latest.
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I dunno, is it though?
Now I know you're going to point out that the Emperor doesn't want to be a god, but it doesn't stop faith&willpower->physical manifestations, so if belieiving the Emperor is god makes actual miracles happen, what's the difference?
Shit like "but muh immigration" and "muh abortion" and "muh trans rights", basically every Democrat talking point, is provably and factually a waste of time to worry about in 40k since the only thing that matters is building more guns.
Seems hyperconservative to me
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they could be more accepting of mutants
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I face discrimination every day for who I am.
Thank you for championing our cause. 
!superheroes !followers
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We are hated yet the saviors. Funny
how that works.
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VERY incorrect, heretic.
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!remindme 8 hours
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I will be messaging you on 31.10.2024, 04:33 UTC to remind you of this comment
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Lol yeh the whole imperium is bad thing is cope. I have no idea how r-slurred you have to be to support anyone else. Except Necron cause they look cool and imprisoned their gods.
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Derivative nerd slop. Basically capeshit for Redditors who are too embarrassed for Superman
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How about this kitty.
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Looks like he's having fun
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I reject all swordshit. It is so boring. I could not possibly care less about which franchise does a better job of depicting borderline cavemen beating each other with pointy sticks and cucking each other. Total swordshitter death.
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I've never actually listened to him before. Is that sniffle a coke nasal drip and does he always have that lol
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Think he is just a pipsqueak lol.
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Even the trees walked!
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Proclaming love for nerdshit is one way ticket to lose any respect i have for them
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I'm entitled to find both to be shit.
Hold on Krull-cels. Our time will come...
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I love how for all the hype they do for the glaive it's effectively just a power saw he uses for like 2 minutes.
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Anna wants to frick Nick so bad
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Isnt xhe married or a single mother or something.
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Shes still with the baby daddy but they dont live together lmao
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Barking up the wrong tree with that
chasing closet 
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Snapshots:
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