EFFORTPOST What I assume are now MAHA americans discuss how much visible poop they would drink in their glorious ambrosia: raw milk

Some choice quotes from the top food scientists of reddit

/u/Brujo-Bailando writes

>We drank it growing up and didn't get sick....Flys were a problem in warmer weather and you would have to pick them out of the milk...Sometimes it had cow poo on it.

Make Americans drink poop milk again!

/u/ahifun writes

>Been drinking it for years, I still drink it when it is a bit old and goes a bit sour after 1-2 weeks. There is no health risk, it is all cap to protect the interests of large dairy producers...it reduces the enzymes and good bacteria, it reduces nutrients and makes it taste worse...Raw milk goes sour faster but even if it goes sour there is very low health risk. If a milk is cooked/heated and then it goes sour, that is where you get the toxic bacteria.

Milk souring is a separate process from spoiling, as it occurs when lactose splits into different acids. But with that falsehood out of the way, I'm sure this genius knows a lot about microbiology. He could definitely name the good/bad bacterias he's talking about straight from memory, doubly so for his nutrients and enzymes.

/u/KT0QNE jokerposts his milkifesto

>A commercial food producer gives listeria or e-coli and recalls multiple product lines and nobody bats an eye. But some small farmer who has everything to lose tries to sell raw milk and everyone loses their mind.

People have been drinking raw milk for thousands of years.

People have been eating fermented milk products for thousands a year, leading some, not all, to develop a gene that prolongs their infantile ability to break down lactose based on the trace amounts found in processed milk. Dairy producing countries pre-pasturation did not have raw milk drinking cultural traditions outside of farmland, as refridgeration to slow down the growth of bacteria of raw milk didn't exactly exist.

/u/teatsqueezwe

>Raw milk actually has good and useful bacteria as well as vitamins and nutrients that get destroyed in the Pasteurizing process.

Such as? What are they? How much is lost?

A true blue fentposter /u/Cliphdiver adds:

>Ive been drinking raw milk since 1972, you whippersnappers. And Ive lived on a farm all my life. The raw milk scare began when factories started operating near farms. Google it. When the Govt got involved, they decided to kill everything in milk, no more problems. Now your drinking white water for $4 a gallon. (With some vitamins thrown in) You dont need any fancy equipment. Just a healthy cow and a bucket. BEWARE: make darn sure you double filter it (straining) to catch anything that may have fallen in the bucket during milk process. ENJOY and f"@K the FDA!

Is it safe or does it need to be strained? I hope they have a strainer from the future that can filter microbes smaller than milk's existing fats.

/u/Vinlands

>There used to be underground markets selling raw milk because it was so sought after. Imagine actual swat teams showing up to raid the shops to "protect" us. I'm not on either side of whether its safe or not; I just don't understand why the government would interfere and say raw milk is illegal.

Past ignorance does not somehow make the repeating the same stupidity less ignorant. The police comes because raw milk farmers are a threat to society, and honestly they should be shot where they stand so we don't have to hear them whining that they can't profit off selling people dangerous bullshit. Libertarians can't comprehend this because they're stupid enough to be libertarians in the first place.

/u/huntsvillekan posts the following legitament historical account detailing why you can't trust dairy farmers not to kill people, ergo why they must be regulated by force under capitalism: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/surprisingly-intolerant-history-milk-180969056/

Some highlights: 8000 yearly deaths in NYC from unregulated milk farmers, "The Greeks castigated barbarians for their gluttonous desire for dairy...in Rome, milk was widely regarded as low-status food because it was something only farmers drank," "

It would take both technological innovation and a change in social mores to popularize animal milk...milk was one of the first foods to be truly affected by industrialization"

So is mass milk drinking thousands of years old and ubiquitous, or a product of the industrial revolution. Anyway...

/u/chobbs2006 comes in explaining how raw milk is their latest schizo-cure to the new in-vogue hypochondriac illness: GERD!

>I've been drinking Jersey A2 raw milk for about 10 months, in addition to my plant-free diet. I add in 2 to 3 oz of heavy whipping cream into 8 to 10 oz of raw milk. It's been amazing so far! I feel like it's healing my gut. I used to have really bad gerd, what's the diet took mostly care of, But now I am able to have a little bit of fruit or honey if I wish and not get heartburn anymore. What makes it unsafe are too primary things, how it is harvested, ie the hygiene and sanitation of the farm, and the cold chain. But I'm also about to make some raw kefir, can't wait

It's like these fad-diet chasers come out of a factory somewhere

Most of the remaining commenters of note just have anecdotes about living on a farm, drinking raw milk, and using a fricking cheesecloth on their already contaminated milk to get the shit-chunks out.

Happy drinking!