Absolute fricking bullshit. All the real commies had been caught way before McCarthy by the FBI, HUAC (McCarthy was in the Senate, this was totally different from him). His main accomplishment was having his pet pixie attack the Army because they drafted his gay lover.
!anticommunists McCarthy was a fellow traveler working with the communists against President Eisenhower. Everyone except total schizos eventually got it. Seeing him rehabilitated by chuds is just as pathetic purple-haired potheads rehabilitating Marx.
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You're always so fricking wingcucked, @Redactor0. Everything to you is either propaganda or an "attempt to rehabilitate."
The simple fact is that McCarthyism had a higher hit rate than the aimless persecution/"red scare" framing most U.S. students get taught. Whether a person's communist sympathies justified their persecution is a separate debate; I'm only saying the targets of McCarthyism had major sympathies and weren't random victims.
The Venona project/intercept was a far more deliberate and sober anti-communist effort, and it showed extensive infiltration -- and overlapped with some of McCarthy's targets.
I get what you're doing, dumbass. You're butthurt about what I said about Phoenix so you're trying to do a gotcha about McCarthy. The problem is you don't know shit about either of these things.
Pls put in more effort next time. You might have at least drawn me out into a discussion.
Was he in bed with the communists or in bed with the pixies and fairies like Roy Cohn? Tell me rightoid. Explain that one to me. Who were the gay commies? Was it the Army? Was it my uncle who drove a truck in Korea with so many corpses in it that he could hear the blood splashing around when he turned a corner, the blood of dead Americans who got killed on the side of some hill? Or was it Eisenhower?
You fricking children think that this is all Roblox. Neighbor this is not, people fricking died for everything that you have. This wasn't memes. My people fought all over the world in real wars in real mud and shit without a fricking Subway on base.
I know it's too much to expect you tards to understand but humans used to actually be real fricking human beings who could read a newspaper. Frick it. I'm leaving this planet up to @Rad_juju's cats.
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None of those are things I brought up to debate, only whether McCarthy's targets tended to be actually communist. You think you're a sophisticated debater, but what you actually do is what's happening here: drift the topic around incoherently, dropping your schizo turds into every paragraph and accusation.
And you still haven't clarified WTF you meant by the Phoenix thing. I don't even know whether you mean the city or the mythological creature.
@Newvann when people reply to you and ping a group you are part of you get two notifications, one red for the reply and one orange for the group, don't know if you knew that already but I just noticed it
Agreed. I just hate seeing history taught as "McCarthy was just looking for ghosts and everyone who sympathized with his efforts at all at the time must have been r-slurred." There's more to the story, and the history of the Red Scare isn't as helpful if it's unclear why the controversy actually existed.
This is possibly the dumbest shit I've ever seen on Wikipedia and that's saying a lot.
Phoenix was about rural areas in Vietnam, dipshit. If you have some racial thing where you're a Hmong or something, I can respect that, but don't be a tard pls.
Neighbor what do you think I'm trying to say here?
The Phoenix Program was not about leftoid students, obviously. I brought it up to point out that a guy hired by the CIA to do glowie shit in Vietnam was then involved in recruiting students and former black prisoners who went on to do "revolutionary activities" where they murdered a black teacher and then all died in a fire after getting blasted.
This had nothing to do with anything that really happened.
They died in a fire
Yeah, shit happens neighbor. All the guys who lived across the street at my dad's base were in a CH-47 and it crashed after takeoff. They got burned alive. It was a fricking war.
Witchhunts crippled US. CIA had to learn becouse they fricked by witch hunts and paranoia most. Soviet union ran laps around US who was flailing around blind.
Funnily enough US learned from this how to push paranoia to their enemies. Trying to make them hunt witches and break apart security aperatuses.
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McCarthyism honestly didn't go far enough.
He should have learned from the Ricecels and have done the three family generations culling as well.
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Most of the people McCarthy persecuted as communists were, in fact, communists. !anticommunists
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Absolute fricking bullshit. All the real commies had been caught way before McCarthy by the FBI, HUAC (McCarthy was in the Senate, this was totally different from him). His main accomplishment was having his pet pixie attack the Army because they drafted his gay lover.
!anticommunists McCarthy was a fellow traveler working with the communists against President Eisenhower. Everyone except total schizos eventually got it. Seeing him rehabilitated by chuds is just as pathetic purple-haired potheads rehabilitating Marx.
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You're always so fricking wingcucked, @Redactor0. Everything to you is either propaganda or an "attempt to rehabilitate."
The simple fact is that McCarthyism had a higher hit rate than the aimless persecution/"red scare" framing most U.S. students get taught. Whether a person's communist sympathies justified their persecution is a separate debate; I'm only saying the targets of McCarthyism had major sympathies and weren't random victims.
The Venona project/intercept was a far more deliberate and sober anti-communist effort, and it showed extensive infiltration -- and overlapped with some of McCarthy's targets.
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I get what you're doing, dumbass. You're butthurt about what I said about Phoenix so you're trying to do a gotcha about McCarthy. The problem is you don't know shit about either of these things.
Pls put in more effort next time. You might have at least drawn me out into a discussion.
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WTF are you even talking about?
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Was he in bed with the communists or in bed with the pixies and fairies like Roy Cohn? Tell me rightoid. Explain that one to me. Who were the gay commies? Was it the Army? Was it my uncle who drove a truck in Korea with so many corpses in it that he could hear the blood splashing around when he turned a corner, the blood of dead Americans who got killed on the side of some hill? Or was it Eisenhower?
You fricking children think that this is all Roblox. Neighbor this is not, people fricking died for everything that you have. This wasn't memes. My people fought all over the world in real wars in real mud and shit without a fricking Subway on base.
I know it's too much to expect you tards to understand but humans used to actually be real fricking human beings who could read a newspaper. Frick it. I'm leaving this planet up to @Rad_juju's cats.
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None of those are things I brought up to debate, only whether McCarthy's targets tended to be actually communist. You think you're a sophisticated debater, but what you actually do is what's happening here: drift the topic around incoherently, dropping your schizo turds into every paragraph and accusation.
And you still haven't clarified WTF you meant by the Phoenix thing. I don't even know whether you mean the city or the mythological creature.
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Oh God you are Krayon (sister toucher). Dude just fricking rope already.
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It's pretty easy to prove you aren't hallucinating the Phoenix thing: just link to a comment in the discussion you're saying we had.
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Smoke less of whatever you're on.
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@longpostbot assesss the situation please
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@Newvann when people reply to you and ping a group you are part of you get two notifications, one red for the reply and one orange for the group, don't know if you knew that already but I just noticed it
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I don't get orange notifs for ping groups though?
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That's because you are a subhuman
!Evenchads laugh at him LAUGH
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Maybe you just don't hate communism enough?
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I hope you get notified every time nothing happens, side-voting butthole.
Because you love side-voting and you should usually only do it when nothing happens.
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In the spirit of Christian charity I will turn my cheek upward for you. Hope you'll join us someday.
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This already happens with blue notiffs if you sub to a hole
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I don't so I don't care about that
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I like herstory
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What's your favorite?
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They prosecuted very few but socially ruined many. That's what they get for hanging out with commies.
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If only we had a word for that process of social ruination that wasn't technically prosecution... a word like "persecution."
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Nice, we "persecuted" commies. !anticommunists rejoice!
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He did get a lot of people with communist sympathies. But like many rightoids he sperged out too hard and made a fool out of himself.
Anyways the CIA learned to absorb their commies and use them to fracture any kind of left unity created by the USSR.
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Because he pursued non-commie targets or no?
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He did but also he went after commie targets in a terrible way.
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Agreed. I just hate seeing history taught as "McCarthy was just looking for ghosts and everyone who sympathized with his efforts at all at the time must have been r-slurred." There's more to the story, and the history of the Red Scare isn't as helpful if it's unclear why the controversy actually existed.
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I'm not aware of any ideologically motivated spies caught in CIA. Ana Montes apparently was but she was DIA and that was after the Cold War.
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By "their" I mean the commies in the US, not the CIA itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colston_Westbrook (article is unfortunately vandalized by schizos)
They began actively recruiting leftist academics and students inthe 60s using guys like Colston, who was originally part of the CIA's Phoenix Program.
They also were involved in propping up alternative leftist movements to the USSR's brand, even in the world of art: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/artcurious-cia-art-excerpt-1909623
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This is possibly the dumbest shit I've ever seen on Wikipedia and that's saying a lot.
Phoenix was about rural areas in Vietnam, dipshit. If you have some racial thing where you're a Hmong or something, I can respect that, but don't be a tard pls.
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Neighbor what do you think I'm trying to say here?
The Phoenix Program was not about leftoid students, obviously. I brought it up to point out that a guy hired by the CIA to do glowie shit in Vietnam was then involved in recruiting students and former black prisoners who went on to do "revolutionary activities" where they murdered a black teacher and then all died in a fire after getting blasted.
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No, you're just r-slurred.
This had nothing to do with anything that really happened.
Yeah, shit happens neighbor. All the guys who lived across the street at my dad's base were in a CH-47 and it crashed after takeoff. They got burned alive. It was a fricking war.
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Witchhunts crippled US. CIA had to learn becouse they fricked by witch hunts and paranoia most. Soviet union ran laps around US who was flailing around blind.
Funnily enough US learned from this how to push paranoia to their enemies. Trying to make them hunt witches and break apart security aperatuses.
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Yeah he went about it in an r-slured manner that only stirred up sympathy for his enemies.
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They did?
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They didn't. This guy is smoking ice right now.
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McCarthyism honestly didn't go far enough.
He should have learned from the Ricecels and have done the three family generations culling as well.
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KILL ALL THE GLASSES WEARING NERDS
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The commies are apparently doing their own coup in Korea today. Three generations aren't enough.
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