Easily fixed by raising the minimum salary significantly and adding a yearly cost for maintaining the H1B, making it materially more expensive to hire from overseas than domestically.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 29, 2024
Iβve been very clear that the program is broken and needs major reform.
Iv'e been vrey claer that the program is broken and needs mjaor reform.
what happened to going to war oevr tihs issue?
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Are you sure he's not just attempting to throw a bone? He's not gonna change lol
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Maybe if they put him in enough memes making fun of him they can bully him into it
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It's over, Mr Musk. We've depicted you as the soyjak
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We joke but he literally changed his political opinions based off of wanting to appeal to 2018 era pewdiepie fans who he liked the memes of
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I likely developed a r*pe-fetish from shitposting on this site. Socialization is a heck of a drug
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Who you raping boy
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girlboss, tomboy and femboy
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Tomboy boss and a mini
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Idk if I've ever told you this but you're one of my favorite users Grue
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me me me me
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This is me but with feet. Also with r*pe.
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at least not furry, right?
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Sometimes you see an anthro and go "she looks like she fricks human men," you know?
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no
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So pewds can save the VVEST by saying the nword again?
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I think he's realizing the subject is getting far too much attention now and wants to shut the goyim down.
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lol this will never happen. The whole point of hiring from India is because they are cheap. Corporations will continually deal with their shitty code just to tell shareholders they saved tons of money. If this happened, nobody would hire from India. The meme that you can't find good engineers here is corporate bs so that they can get cheap workers.
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No, it's that for 30 years techcels have been overpaid too do nothing but play on the computer all day and until recently no one realized how pointless it was so they started too hire jeets too do literally the same thing for peanuts. Computer shit has been so overvalued bc management had little insight into how skillless and malingering it really was. It's akin too burger flipping or pulling switches at manufacturing.
Nerds are furious their scam too earn 6 figures too read Reddit and copy paste notepad lines was found out and they are grasping at straws. It never has been no more over for nerds and people who work for a living couldn't be happier blue lives matter
@HailVictory1776 sincerely believe what started this must have been leftoid citycels treating too unionize techcel shit and everypony finding it laughable too need "worker" projections too play on the computer all day. They did it too themselves. Get a real job with real skills
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The bloated techcel salaries everyone complains about is in San Francisco where $250k is like making $100k everywhere else.
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Still too much for an eburger flipper. They should have known when they started advertising their bean bag offices with beer on tap which everypony knows is cringe and not real work blue lives matter
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I'll boomerpost and say that coding was much harder back in the day, because you had to actually understand what was going on. I saw the saturation bubble happening in the 2010s and got out. People really shoulda saw this coming, but can't blame zoomers for chasing money.
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Dilbert tried to warn us
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This is by far your most female comment of the week.
Tech gets more complex every day lmao.
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When I was a kid, we walked uphill in the snow to code and had no SO or Google.
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Nobody uses SO outside of code campers and sexy Indian dudes. Its 99.99999% saars telling you how to do something in jquery from 8 years ago.
I used to read docs but now I just have AI read it back to me so I don't have to google the docs.
Outside of that every week there is a new framework, platform or api we need to frick with and half the time you're working with a shitty project Jeeta sold marketing.
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mb mb codecels use AI now to code. See? Boomer me even mentions SO which has been replaced with AI.
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Get a real job lmfao blue lives matter
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It's all obfuscation. The talent pool is growing but becoming more shallow. It's very rare these days to work alongside a developer that actually understands the underlying impact of the code they write. All of the quality of life improvements we've seen in coding in the past twenty years has made our lives easier but dropped the skill floor significantly. Everybody has been noticing it in video games recently. Storage has become ludicrously cheap, common development practices respond to no longer consider storage as a constraint. Remasters of 1GB 20 year old games now clock in over 50GB. That's not complexity it's bad developers.
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Frickin crazy
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No you are the most female comment "a nasally nerd is speaking please listen copying pasting code is hard and means @HailVictory1776 need too make more than a doctor bc it gets harder every day @HailVictory1776 is so stressed @HailVictory1776 need more stim toys in @HailVictory1776's cube you can't understand how hard it is normie just give @HailVictory1776 more money and Soylent" blue lives matter
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I thought we were chuds in armor why you keep scoping me king
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Pls translate from zoomer too American blue lives matter
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I'm better at diagnosis than most doctors and my work lasts forever
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Is IT Ops still viable compared to the entry programmer roles? Someone's gotta run cable and stuff right?
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I enjoyed IT Ops but the double-edged sword is you either work in an environment constantly broken so you have to put out fires all the time or you work in a well-built environment where most things run smoothly but execs paying your salary look at you with scorn thinking you do nothing. In the latter, you have to constantly look busy but you get let go eventually anyway.
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You can also get treated like blue collar, low IQ r-slurs doing unskilled labor by white woman office lady teams who think you click a few buttons on windows to "make it work".
The Salesforce women are really bad about it
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It is, but you gotta be ready to talk to users and most users are unbelievably r-slurred.
I know tech people often have an inflated opinion of their own intelligence but users, especially the ones that need help often, are incredibly dumb and don't listen so they encounter the same problems over and over again.
You know how "turn the laptop off and then back on again" can solve a lot of problems? When I first started, I had to go over how to do this several times with different people.
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Don't forget them letting you know they have a family member in IT and this family member without knowledge of the environment at all told them the way the billion dollar corp runs things is totally not right and you're probably just lying to them.
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That, plus "I've been using program A for years. Program B should work exactly the same way even though it does something completely different."
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You can absolutely blame zoomers. Chasing money is a fricking r-slurred way too plan for you're life and family. This is because colleges are a scam and convince kids too chase debt and never financially plan or find value in their work. Blue lives matter
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People have different goals, my man. Some people like money.
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Then should become doctor of pro tax evader
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So like a lawyer and CPA combined? That's pretty rad.
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They should love Christ instead blue lives matter
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lol I'm going to assume you are trolllolololing me but idk.
Anywho, it is what it is.
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You sound like a commie that is mad other people make more money than you, tbqh.
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They're also not bloated. In fact the major companies there conspired with a non poaching agreement to artificially depress salaries of techcels.
In reality a really good developer easily generates a million or more of value and deserves usually more than they're getting. People just very upset about it because it's so much more economically valuable than drawing anime or whatever non techcels do.
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its bc they all live in one place but generate revenue from everywhere on the planet
that doesn't exist in any other kind of business but finance ig
both are just leeching off of people who actually build things as far as I'm concerned
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I think it's because their contribution can be copied infinitely. Netflix for example only needs so many talented developers to design the storage and hosting backends - they can then serve an arbitrarily-large number of customers, with the only "per-customer" cost being maybe server hardware (very low cost in comparison to revenue). In most other industries this isn't the case, even other white-collar stuff like HR drones.
Computers really are a second industrial revolution.
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The biggest thing about tech (as a business) is its ability to scale. Whereas with a normal business it takes time and money to buy/build new facilities, build up logistics, train people, etc, with tech you can have one guy deliver to millions (especially seen with indie games).
Take Valve, which only has 200ish employees but has a revenue of $13 billion a year. Think about the "value" of each employee there, contributing on average 65 million in revenue. And for what, it costs Valve $200k a year for them? If you want it can basically shit gold.
This also explains why VC is so interested in them and why we see the culture they have. With the ability to scale basically infinitely rapidly, they're loved by gamblers everywhere, rich ones (VC GPs) everywhere.
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I think management takes it for granted and doesn't understand how things work. They just say "do this" and think its a magic button a lazy dev/ops guy presses.
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It is, but there are 144 buttons and you have to press them in a certain order.
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yeah but anyone in the world can subscribe to neetflix while the peole benenfitting all live in one ccity point still stands
i think these are the same point
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Yeah except yours is backwards
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What Chinese venture capital firm told you that blue lives matter
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wait who tf let you out of ur cuck zone lmao
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You mad an Indian can do you're job better and for less wasted money lol
Time too get a real job that actually benefits societyblue lives matter
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oh i'm not mad about this bb my company has a policy to never do work visas of any kind bc we're not r-slurred
i was just wondering who let you out, usually you just comment in reports
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Aevann did also good on you're company for putting Americans first @HailVictory1776 don't know how prevalent this actually is blue lives matter
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Not everybody can do valuable work like fining children for not having a state fishing loicense.
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Is this a @Fresh_Start alt? Nobody believes this
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Still overpaid, tbh
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Commie hates upward mobility
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@HailVictory1776 is not a communist r-slur stop projecting you're dumb butt tech nerd seethe blue lives matter
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permachud?
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People who fold clothes for a living sure are mad people that program get paid more lmao
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What the frick are you talking about? Pizzashill? Blue lives matter
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I do play games all day. Still, you couldn't do my job if you spent the rest of your miserable life trying to learn
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I know plenty of people on H1B and they get paid as well as Americans (or more)
H1B mills just need to be shutdown which probably about 20% of H1B, which would be dead simple to do. But those big consulting companies mostly work on bottom feeding gov contracts for low bids, so who knows if they will
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Sounds like freelancing. The indian agencies take low budget projects and then outsource to other indians at extremely low prices. They bottom feed on people like on /r/startups who don't know their code is never going to run on anything but just know that they got a cheap project.
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The funny thing is those bids usually ends up costing way more money because the projects get delayed for yrs or don't work. like the healthcare.gov scandal, Obama gov hired CGI a giant Canadian multinational IT contractor known for subcontracting to Indian java mills, they spent $200M using 300 people and it was completely broken when it launched. It's not saving the gov any money but these businesses have political pull and work the system by cheaping out on labor
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My issue with this is that the h1B mills are the only Indian coders that make sense.
I don't want to give them jobs as ML researchers at openAI.
I want them to do react tickets for cheap.
This is just the skilled v unskilled thing but with tech. You want the cheap mills, not the expensive ones.
Musk doesn't get this
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I want to do react tickets for $90 an hour, though
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With AI help Indian will be like couple percent worse than non Indian coders but will cost 5+ times cheaper
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No, they're actually going to produce thoroughly jeeted code at 30x the speed and it will be impossible for the one white guy to review it all.
They'll either collapse the market for indian coders or collapse the entire us economy
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You know that sounds based but homos couldn't release Prince of Persia hd remaster for 8 years now. At this speed they would beat the Singaporean AAAA pirate game
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There is a reason why Microsoft installed WhatsApp on my w11 surface.
They know they can push shitty coded apps to Indians and they won't notice or complain either.
They want to replace the current dying middle class with low class Indians that are more than happy to consume slop.
Bet you the next marvel series will be Bollywood style lmao
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Not sure how jeeted whatsapp is but their servers at least are an accomplishment. The amount of volume they handle is staggering
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They handle 1.2 billion "good morning sars" every morning
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I doubt much will change in the incoming admin, but the people are now angrier about it. Lots of rightward sliding the past few days.
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I appreciate that even shitlibs are increasingly aware of the curry in the break room. This is groundbreaking bipartisan unity right here
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!antibharatiya
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Even @Sphereserf3232?
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anyone lazy enough to fear the curry menace deserves to suffer because he's right
I have a plan for deporting lazy americans into starving third world countries called Operation Dumbo Drop
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Disparate impact, will never happen.
- Big D
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Deep impact, depending on BMI
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This is what's important and might have been the intent all along. Blue lives matter
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