- "Just remove anonymity/usernames from all platforms. Users have to use their legal name. Let's get some real accountability behind people's actions and what they are spreading." 
However, even some normie ledditors start to 
about why living expenses are getting more and more expensive, yet the ruling class and media only talks about "internet extremism" as the issue that plebians should be focused about! 
I'm gonna bash my fricking head against the...
IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED ASKING NICELY TO AFFORD BASIC SHIT AND KEEP GETTING * * FRICKING IGNORED!!!** By our political "leaders", by our employers, landlords, law enforcement (see; elite class public security detail, lower class suppression unit) we're fricking sick of fighting to meet even the bare minimum!!!
And now it's "Ooooohhhh.... I bet all these attacks are because of that EEEEVVVVIIIIILLL INTERNET! It's gotta be that 'political divisiveness. That's the proble-"
GET FRICKED, NBC! It's the thing that your fricking owners won't let you fricking talk about, and I am beyond sick of the actual fricking problem getting so carefully danced around.
We're. Tired. Of. The. Owner. Class's. Bull. Shit.
I never thought I would be agreeing with a redditor typing an neurodivergent mental breakdown 
Its getting bad in the last couple of months we have had 2 assignation attempts on Trump a third non-attempt where a guy tried to sneak into his press conferences with a gun, we have had two shootings at Christian schools, an attack in new Orleans that killed a bunch of people and finally a guy tried to blowup a cybertruck in front of trump tower. these attacks are all over the place but the one connecting thread is it is all far right violence.
Just remove anonymity/usernames from all platforms. Users have to use their legal name. Let's get some real accountability behind people's actions and what they are spreading.
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The only real criticism you can make of the modern "ruling class" has to do with the continually growing disparity of wealth. Most people don't take issue with their boss being richer than them, but when the relative difference between their wealth and yours continues to grow while yours is not keeping up with inflation, then the system is fundamentally being exploited in an unsustainable fashion. This is further compounded by the emerging global market and the willingness to capitalize on importing foreign workers to do work at a fraction of the salary its actually worth, because that small salary is still a 10,000% increase over the money they would make in their own country. If you apply the wealth disparity + wage suppression formula for long enough, eventually you'll reach a breaking point.
That being said, most redditors are just jealous cute twinks that hate anyone for being more successful than themselves so they hide that insecurity behind grandiose themes of class war.
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Real wages have been stagnant since the 70s despite an increase in productivity, while corporate profits have ballooned.
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REAL OG !neolibs will remember this one. It's THE shitty epi graph. You know the one.
Turns out all you need to do is mislabel a graph and then double-down when called out, and you can get government employees to collectively waste thousands of hours writing up 30 page rebuttals of your meme.
Maybe I'll make an effortpost about it some day and join the club.
Gotta give the !commies a big
here. It was an absolutely awe-inspiring bussy-blasting score. 
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Good enough for the WEF.
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It's GOOD bait.
But the graph is still fake.
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No, the WEF posted an article citing it.
Doesn't sound like they're deboonking it.
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Never heard of them before today. Are you confusing them with the World Bank?
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World Economic Forum
Very influential NGO/think tank. Hosts their annual summit in Davos that a bunch of politicians attend.
Backed by a bunch of big corporations, like Amazon, Google, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, to name a few.
Published the infamous "You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy." article.
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The graph is still fake, hon.
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WEF is just Comicon for powerful globalists. It's not dictating the global agenda anymore than Comicon dictates the next Marvel movie or Akham game
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That guy ain't baiting though, he's posting pure, unfiltered redditism.
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im literally screaming, Please do, and Its indexed to 73, which is fricking why theres that split between the fricking two variables, and Wheres that data from, b-word???
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!remindme 4 months "effort post about that epi thing"
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1CFTH
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1CFWf
https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2023/03/the-differences-among-price-indexes/
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I will be messaging you on 06.05.2025, 02:33 UTC to remind you of this comment
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Here's a deboonking
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1846740202179486061.html
https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Understanding-Trends-in-Worker-Pay.pdf?x85095
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do it
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Your chart shows real wages increasing by 9% since the 70s. Try again. Do you commies and rightoids have any argument other than envy for other people getting richer even though you are too -- just not as much?
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You really are r-slurred. It shows wages growing inline with increasing productivity until the 70s at which point the lines begin to diverge.
Why have real wages only increased 9% despite productivity increasing 74%?
!commies
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An interesting question -- but not the one originally raised about wages keeping up with inflation.
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You moved the goal posts, neighbor.
I believe my original quote was that wages have "stagnated", and I don't see how you can say that a 9% real wage growth over 50 years isn't stagnant.
Especially when housing costs (the largest expense for Americans) have increased so much relative to the CPI:
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You know it's trivially easy to show who's moving goalposts, right?
This is what I originally replied to. It's not your comment, but it's the one that set the goalposts:
(emphasis mine)
"Not keeping up with inflation" is false over almost any 5+ year period and has definitely not been the case on average over the past 40-50 years.
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Change "not" to "barely" and it's correct.
You should keep yourself safe btw.
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Even if you doctor your claim that way, you're still wrong.
That's because, dumbass, an 8-9% gain in real wages since the 70s is one of the largest gains in wealth that the world has ever seen. It's more absolute wealth gain than happened ever over all years prior to 1700. !neolibs
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Muh stagnant wages since 1970s and corporate greed.
Housing has ballooned because of regulations, zoning and lack of new building. Also you can't compare the material costs of a house built in the 1950s with one today. People talking about le stagnant wages act as if up to the 1970s Americans had a better lifestyle which isn't true, they didn't consoooom as much as they do now.
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Director of Diversity and InclusionExecutive nuclearshill 1mo ago #7587423 spent 0 currency on pingsAll westerners should be forced to spend at least a month in a 3rd world shithole to fully understand just how they have it with current tech.
B-words clearly don't understand how much time you save by having a washing machine and a dryer. Or a microwave. Or yes, the internet. If I had to pay business taxes and licensing fees in person, I'd be spending entire days doing nothing but waiting outside a government office.
At the other end of the spectrum, the ancaps should also get to enjoy a month of no government regulations. I think I can count on one hand the amount of wheelchair accessible buildings in my native country.
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I think I'd say they did have a better lifestyle precisely because they didn't consoooom as much. The basics were more affordable and lots of bullshit gadgets didn't exist so they didn't miss them.
Trying not to Tedpost
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https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q
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In BLS data wages are only hourly employees, it's excluding all salaried workers. They publish a separate income series but that doesn't let r-slurred people make a point.
The difference in productivity between salaried and hourly is caused by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_income_inequality_in_the_United_States#Skill-biased_technological_change the wagies haven't seen much, if any, increase in productivity so they don't get paid more.
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"Data are for compensation of production/nonsupervisory workers in the private sector and net productivity (growth of output of goods and services less depreciation per hour worked) of the total economy. Hourly compensation is derived from inflating the average wages of production/nonsupervisory workers from the BLS Current Employment Statistics (CES) by a compensation-to-wage ratio. The compensation-to-wage ratio is calculated by dividing the average total compensation (wages and salaries plus benefits) by the average wage and salary accruals of all full- and part-time employees from the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) National Income and Product Accounts (NIPA) interactive tables. The 2013 compensation-to-wage ratio used in the calculation of hourly compensation was estimated using the growth rate of the compensation-to-wage ratio from 2012 to 2013 from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) Employer Costs for Employee Compensation (ECEC)."
I believe this means their data includes salaried workers, but I don't have the spoons to dig through it right now.
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what measurement is "productivity" on that graph
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Probably total factor productivity.
Measures of labor productivity compare the growth in output to the growth in hours worked and measures of total factor productivity (TFP), also known as multifactor productivity (MFP), compare growth in output to the growth in a combination of inputs that include labor, capital, energy, materials, and purchased services.Jump in the discussion.
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"Data are for compensation (wages and benefits) of production/nonsupervisory workers in the private sector and net productivity of the total economy. "Net productivity" is the growth of output of goods and services less depreciation per hour worked."
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So why gloss over that 90% trend which positively impacts their real income, b-word???
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Yeah, that's the kind of data I was looking for.
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Data showing that everyone is doing better but that the rich are doing much better? These charts do not show declines in wages relative to inflation. They show the opposite.
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Rich people are also fricking annoying and moronic. Most have an extreme life style inflation and think being forced to slightly reduce their means is a fricking existential attack while they cope that its okay to pay people like shit as if you live in a closet and only eat hard tac is doable. Like in the business world it would make sense that it a company is failing the ceo at the head is punished by taking a lower pay, but nope his salary remains the same and they just fire all the quality people to create a worse cheaper product. It genuinely sickens me seeing the level and oppulance these fricks can do. Watching someone spend more on food and clothes and s*x in one night then you get in a year.
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Honestly, you BIPOCs are so fricking ungrateful, and You barely need to know math and how to drive a fricking truck, and you can make $20 an hour, and No high school diploma required, and Thats literally all from the fricking excessive wealth and productivity generated by businesses and OH no the fricking Fat Cats
Send the fricking zoomers to the fricking coal mines of Ethiopia and give me hundreds of thousands of them with work ethic, and Ill take that deal literally any day
!neolibs PERIODT
What are fricking you doing in college, b-word??? Its your chance to get some basic skills and move up quickly in the fricking world, and Or you can be like the fricking seething lard pool of reddit by wasting your time doing nothing while youre there and then wondering why you have a fricking shit job at the fricking age of 30 and its EVERYTHING
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Fake, so I stopped reading there. Almost everyone's wages have more than kept up with inflation. Real income is higher in the US for almost every cohort than it was 5, 10, or 30 years ago.
If what you were saying was true, we wouldn't see discontent over those matters in the US, but there's plenty of outrage, even though it has a tenuous relationship to any facts.
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And neolibs like to pretend they're smart.
!commies
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"This means not keeping up with inflation, amirite?"
Also, your chart only goes to 2018 -- and it shows a 10% gain in real (inflation-adjusted) wages from 1964 to 2018, showing that I'm right.
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also the graphmaker is a CPIcel
real BEApilled !neolibs know PCE price-index is queen
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I will read up on PCE. Thanks!
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Correct. Most non-r-slurs would understand "keeping up with inflation" to mean "growing in proportion to inflation."
More recent stats aren't much better.
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Your last chart not only failed to show that; it showed the opposite over its span.
But I see we've moved onto: "If I pick specific dates, I can show a real wage decline of 1.1%. That'll show him!"
Yes, there are periods of time you can pick where real wages go down. That doesn't change the overall trend long-term.
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Neolibs are so stupid lmao.
"The last five years don't count actually."
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We need a chud phrase I can put on accounts like yours that steadfastly refuse to acknowledge economic concepts and metrics.
Maybe something like "supply and demand determine price" or "real wages have increased on average for almost any decade span you could pick over the past 50 years." Maybe even "choosing date spans that begin or end in a pandemic or coincide with beginning/ending expansionary spending fail to reflect overall trends."
Edit: I'll respond to the argument you edited in retroactively:
They do, but your chart is for four years starting in the middle of pandemic when we were showering wages in subsidies. Even then, you could only dredge up a 1.1% decline (which doesn't exist for the 5-year period from pre- to post-pandemic).
Finally, your overall argument is that "the last 40 years don't count actually," which is even dumber.
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Modern economics is a pseudoscience invented to justify the status quo.
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I'm talking about this shit:
Where a small percentage of people are continuously making more money while their employees and whatnot simply aren't. Meanwhile, shit like the housing market continues to outpace wages. When it used to be possible for any jackass working any job to buy a house but now the majority of people will never be able to and the relative disparity only continues to grow year after year, something is clearly wrong.
Again, most people don't have an issue with their boss being rich, but when their excess compensation is enough to buy a few mega yachts per year while their employees have to budget food and gas while abandoning any hopes of home ownership, its going to breed resentment until you reach a breaking point.
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This is already a solved problem with existing technology
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Stupid pics of Biden don't make you any more correct. All wingcucks are incompetent.
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See, I get that, and I can even sympathize with it.
"Corporate greed" seems like the least productive and most confusing way to phrase it though.
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theres a lot of valid
criticisms of the current regime other that, just to name a few:
marital "rayp" laws
domestic abuse
laws
sh!tty pop kulture/ media
absolutely sterile and gay culture
non-virginal women
1st wave feminism
civil rights
act 1964
child labour
laws
LGBTP rights
the police
state/ mass surveillance 
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Hart celler and women being allowed to vote as well
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Natural symptom of an empire in decline.
The same story has played out over and over, but people keep acting like this is somehow new information.
It's not going too get any better. Enjoy what you've got while you still have it.
white extinction is long overdue.
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