https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1i23t9w/why_do_americans_build_with_wood/
Most Based Comments
Basedness: ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐
True, but not universally across nations and religions as this fricking guy. (146)
What did he do? (50)
Basedness: ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐
9 million per home! How?In Chile, that is much more prone to earthquakes sometimes x1000 stronger than LA (most seismic country in the planet btw), most modern constructions (including houses) are made from concrete, and they are earthquake proof, and they definitely don't cost anywhere near 9 million (323)
It may just be because of their extreme building regulations permits and purchasing power parity (10)
Basedness: ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐
/u/inspectcloser Building inspector here. A lot of these comments are dumb stating that concrete and steel can't hold up to an earthquake yet look at all the high rise buildings in LA and earthquake prone regions.The video makes a good point that the US society largely conforms to building HOUSES with wood.Luckily steel framed houses are a thing and would likely be seen in place of wood framed houses in these regions prone to fire. Pair that with fiber cement board siding and you have yourself a home that looks like any other but is much more fire resistive.Engineering has come a long way (1116)
What's the cost difference vs stick built? (18)
Angriest Comments
Angriness: ๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก
Path dependence is certainly a factor - but it's hardly dominant, or even the biggest one for most areas. More importantly though: for a fire that severe, there is a fairly good chance the concrete building will need to be demolished anyway. Concrete won't burn, but it can be damaged by fires in other ways: expansion, corrosion, spalling, cracking, etc. This is also a major factor in other regions in the US with different disaster risks. If the expected damage from the disaster is high enough that you expect to demo/rebuild either way, the cheaper construction wins out. This holds for major flood risks and for things like tornadoes. It doesn't hold for hurricanes because there is a safety component - concrete block homes have sufficient wind resistance to allow shelter during hurricanes, which is why they are a thing in Florida (even though the flood damage often means they have to be demolished anyways). That said: for fire in a particular there is a level of "herd immunity"... (1)
Angriness: ๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก
This is a legitimate request for insight. I'm constantly worried about how much BS is floating around and how susceptible I, personally, may be to it. Even if someone is worldly, intelligent, educated, canny, or whatever, the sheer volume of misinformation means you're bound to fall for a lie eventually, right?And I can't make any special claim to bring any of those things. So: this video seemed plausible to me. I could buy it and fold it in to the body of things I "know". What about it is wrong? My biggest issue is it doesn't make any radical or harsh claims or judgements and it tells me something o already expect to hear (people are fricking up because they won't change) it's a really easy to accept it and let it add to my "knowledge". What's the catch? What is it making up? (1)
It's treating these recent wildfires like it's a major threat to all housing the US. Non-Americans do this every time there's a natural disaster that destroys homes in the US.The thing is, this wildfire destroyed a few thousand homes when there are 81 million homes in the US. Not only that, it was a fairly unprecedented wildfire that burned into an urban area because of the confluence of some pretty uncommon variables. That makes it big news for obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean that there's something wrong with Americans building wood houses. The reality is the vast, vast majority of wood houses in the US won't be destroyed by a natural disaster. They'll just be victims of time and progress, likely tore down to make way for a new house more in-line with the prevailing style of the time. So, the video is basically alarmist. It's like someone claiming that Germans are stupid for not building vehicles out of 1/2 plate steel because a few people die in wrecks every year and that o... (3)
Angriness: ๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก
Concrete does not do well in an earthquake. A poorly designed concrete house will still burn. It is possible to design so that the house is earthquake and fire resistant. The USA found this out the hard way. Look up pictures of cities that were destroyed by earthquakes. In most of the world wood and brick are not cheaper.Wood does not do well in fires. A poorly designed house will still collapse in an earth quake. It is possible to build fire and earthquake resistant houses. In most of the world it is not significantly cheaper than concrete. So choose your poison. LA burned for many reasons. Mainly Government stopped measures to prevent fires. Like water management, firebreaks, defunding the fire brigades, stopping power suppliers from putting in fire prevention. Building codes obviously were inadequate. Forestry /grasslands management is appalling. Personally with current State Government, bureaucratic and community attitudes, I just wouldn't live there. Too dangerous. Looks like m... (0)
Score: ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐๐
Number of comments: 5
Average angriness: ๐๐๐๐๐
Maximum angriness: ๐ก๐ก๐ก๐ก๐
Minimum angriness: ๐๐๐๐๐
NEW: Subscribe to /h/miners to see untapped drama veins, ripe for mining! 
autodrama: automating away the jobs of dramneurodivergents. 
Ping HeyMoon if there are any problems or you have a suggestion 
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
lol, he's totally right
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Europeans cannot fathom earthquakes.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Only Mediterranean mutts get earthquakes.
And Iceland.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/18/heat-wave-europe-death-toll
I can't wait for the next time euros die by the thousands after the weather gets a little warm.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I SING WHILE I GET ROASTED BY THE FIRE
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Why do eurostrags thing moving hot air fast makes it not hot? Great, now the 50C air is blowing in your face. So much better
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
As long as it automatically turns off at night.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Reminder that Poj thought ~74ยฐF was suffocating heat in Bongland
The American South in the summer is literally apocalyptic to them
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's more the humidity than the temperature tbh
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's always 100% humidity outside of winter in the Southeast. Even then, I can't imagine 70sยฐF ever being unbearable. That's, what, a feels-like temp of 80ยฐF? It's just comical.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I think euros would melt wicked witch style if they had to work in conditions ive had to. We had 102 with 85% humidity one day last year.
I went to Boston in the middle of summer last year with some Yankees and they were complaining how hot it was while I walked around without sunscreen enjoying the mild temps and invulnerability to their kitty UV rays
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I was thinking about
@X earlier, having a giggle because of how different our climates are.
Most of this past week has been around 0ยฐF (-18ยฐC), and next week will dip down to -11ยฐF (-30ยฐC).
Today is an anomaly at a sunny 40ยฐF (4ยฐC) so people are gonna be in tshirts and light jackets, windows down, maybe the occasional sunroof open.... get a little fresh air going.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
lol we're having floods recently with the second wave coming this weekend
no trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
This is good for Bitcoin.
I might actually go wash the cars this morning
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Oh frick off, even at 90% humidity 74 is nothing.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Europeans only have nice homes because enslaved serfs built them for free 400 years ago. If they had to build them from scratch, the entire continent would be nothing but commie blocks.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
White extinction is long overdue
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Irrelevant if it makes sense or not because I stopped watching after this dipshit pretended that he'd never seen a picture or movie of an American town in his whole life and totally genuinely pictured America as a nation of of endless concrete homes somehow.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
White extinction is long overdue
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
This building inspector is r-slurred if he thinks the wood frame of a house is what makes it so flammable. It's all the fine plastic shit like carpets and curtains and furniture you cute twink, wood is the last to burn
!r-slurs
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
/u/danpole20 I hope you get fired for being incompetent and r-slurred
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Everything inside my house burned down and the piping is melted and warped and the ducting is full of cancerous ash and it lit the next house on fire and it cannot be reinhabited
But the concrete stood strong
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Let people enjoy living in a warzone.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
So much seething in this thread lolmao !eurochads
Burgeroids will have their 3m $ home burning to the ground every 3 months and then claiming that euros suggesting them to switch to concrete are being owned
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
"I may live in a tenement but at least it's made of concrete"
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
"I may live in a burnt down ash-clay hut, but at least it was made of wood at some point"
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Lmao you even got a bite here too.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Post proof of homeownership
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
How does he do it?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Cloak your seethe under smug irony all you want yet you still seethe.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Projection.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Cheap, plentiful, and easy to renovate. We don't have stupid-butt exposed pipes or dual-tap systems like europoors
"oh it's easy to renovate with block walls, you just chisel out a fricking groove, lay your cable inside, then mortar over it" like that ain't no thang.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
That's just bongs.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Most houses in bongland have now single control taps.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Taps for what? Faucets? ??
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yeah for years Brits lived like this
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Are they literally r-slurred?
Mixing valves are dead simple.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Talking to some limey customers we had in town a while back when I was doing a home renovation
Got rid of my garage to add a bed room, bathroom
And new kitchen space. He was like "oi, the c*nts at permit office most had you in ringer for years before you put a nail in"
I was like no we did it all in 3 months.
Think he applied for his green card right there
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
My old neighbour bumped out an 8' wide bay window addition 30 years ago.
When I asked him about the permit process... he said something like start Friday, finish Sunday, no Inspector works the weekend.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yankee dramatards are a special breed of r-slurred liars.
Unless your being really fricking weird you don't need planning permission for a garage conversion in the UK.
US has home owners associations and your county and state building regs are insane in most places.
The Burger dramatard though escapes these problems because he's a 6, 2" tech wizz or Dr on a quarter mil living in a rural or outer suburban area with his trad wife and three delightful well adjusted children.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Theres not a lot of wood houses left in other countries because they were firedbombed, and in typical euro fashion
euros take being a wartorn shithole as the logical 
superior 
position.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Yeah they keep talking about Japan in there too.
Japan was like 100% wood, even the main cities. You know until we firebombed the shit outta them in WW2.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
youre getting firebombed by nature stfu
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Absolutely nothing wrong with wood framing. Smug europeans should die.
Besides, timber framing is ubiquitous across Europe so these people are not only arrogant but ignorant as well.
Stick framing is just more common than timber framing in the US but nothing wrong with either and both are wood
Trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
The best book I've ever read became an all time meme and it gives me mixed emotions.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
You vill live in zee concrete pod, and you vill be fireproofed, and you vill be happy.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Wood
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
don't worry, foreigners. one day you'll learn the advanced modern skill of turning trees in to things you can use instead of having to make yer homes out of mud and rocks you stacked up.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
virgin wood chopper vs chad rock stacker
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I would like to acknowledge that the land we are on is the traditional territory of the Marseyan Tribe, Zombulstragos, and Platillians. These Indigenous communities have lived on this land for thousands of years, and their spiritual and cultural connections to this land are deeply rooted.
It is important to recognize the history and ongoing presence of these Indigenous communities and the impacts of colonization, which have caused significant harm to their people and cultures. We must acknowledge the resilience and strength of the Marseyan Tribe, Zombulstragos, and Platillians in the face of these challenges and the ongoing contributions they make to their communities and to society as a whole.
It is imperative that we work towards building stronger relationships with Indigenous communities, including the Marseyan Tribe, Zombulstragos, and Platillians, and prioritize their voices and perspectives in our efforts towards reconciliation and healing. This includes acknowledging their rightful place as the traditional custodians of this land and working towards reparations for the harm that has been done.
We must commit to learning about the distinct histories and experiences of all Indigenous peoples and take responsibility for our role in perpetuating colonial violence. Only by working together can we build a more just and equitable society for all.
Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfrick/comments/1i23t9w/why_do_americans_build_with_wood/:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
What did he do?:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
It may just be because of their extreme building regulations permits and purchasing power parity:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
/u/inspectcloser:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
What's the cost difference vs stick built?:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
Path dependence is certainly a factor - but it's hardly dominant, or even the biggest one for most areas. More importantly though: for a fire that severe, there is a fairly good chance the concrete building will need to be demolished anyway. Concrete won't burn, but it can be damaged by fires in other ways: expansion, corrosion, spalling, cracking, etc. This is also a major factor in other regions in the US with different disaster risks. If the expected damage from the disaster is high enough that you expect to demo/rebuild either way, the cheaper construction wins out. This holds for major flood risks and for things like tornadoes. It doesn't hold for hurricanes because there is a safety component - concrete block homes have sufficient wind resistance to allow shelter during hurricanes, which is why they are a thing in Florida (even though the flood damage often means they have to be demolished anyways). That said: for fire in a particular there is a level of "herd immunity"...:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
It's treating these recent wildfires like it's a major threat to all housing the US. Non-Americans do this every time there's a natural disaster that destroys homes in the US.The thing is, this wildfire destroyed a few thousand homes when there are 81 million homes in the US. Not only that, it was a fairly unprecedented wildfire that burned into an urban area because of the confluence of some pretty uncommon variables. That makes it big news for obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean that there's something wrong with Americans building wood houses. The reality is the vast, vast majority of wood houses in the US won't be destroyed by a natural disaster. They'll just be victims of time and progress, likely tore down to make way for a new house more in-line with the prevailing style of the time. So, the video is basically alarmist. It's like someone claiming that Germans are stupid for not building vehicles out of 1/2 plate steel because a few people die in wrecks every year and that o...:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
It's not like europoors are fricking building loads of new structures. They are fricking just weirdly smug that their ancestors built some rock and brick houses hundreds of years ago before escaping to America. Why do we even let europoors online, b-word?
Putting the
in
spookieturkeymerrynew yeardonkeyJump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I don't know why they feel the need to brag about living like The Three Little Pigs.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's ok, I'd be salty too if I shared a fricking wall with someone else's house
Putting the
in
spookieturkeymerrynew yeardonkeyJump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
"good thing my house is made of stone and sand, i look forward to just move back in lmao"
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
isn't the issue here Californians just being r-slurred and being unable to do any sort of fire management due to the enviromental activist question
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
We live in a forest not a mountain range you fricking eurocucks. It's like asking the Japanese why they eat sushi, fish is fricking everywhere.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
A proper wood house doesn't burn like the american cardboard houses
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context