COMMUNITY NOTEDThe following 4 years will be a great teaching opportunity for those who will be self-aware enough to swim out of the conspiracy whirlpool, and actually realize that the prices of everything will double because of their own credulity that made them vote for a scam artist, who promised to stop inflation by implementing one of the origins of inflation, namely tarrifs. They will have to endure through many inconvieniences, like when they step into the human feces on the street that the saar who just took their job shat there, the same saar that was just invited in by Trump, when our dumbass with the shitty boots thought he was voting for the orange saviour who promised to get rid of all the undesirable aliens, and not bring even more in. And when our hero won't even have to worry about which game franchise's new entry he won't buy that the blue haired DEI pronoun lady ruined, because he will have to scour the garbage cans for food, because even food he won't be able to afford. It all will be a struggle and hard confrontation with your past guilible self, I hope you will be capable of it.
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Yeah, it kind of sucks because some stuff can't just be undone at the fricking end of four years.
If Russia gets handed a fricking green light to roll over Ukraine, maybe no more Ukraine.
Paris climate accords, we might just be [even more] deeply fricked. Can't un-extinct whatever they kill, or pump the fricking CO2 back into the fricking ground.
If they break the fricking civil service too badly, that might actually be game over for Burgertown. Almost every competent person who works for the fricking government could go out tomorrow and get a fricking better job that paid three times as much in the fricking private sector. They work there because they believe in America and what they are fricking doing, but if Trump & Co hound them too much and make it miserable, they will leave. Building organizational culture takes decades and can be destroyed quickly.
!neolibs what's the fricking over-under on complex systems failure of the fricking whole federal bureaucracy, b-word?
!accelerationists is this fricking prom night??!
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No idea where this meme comes from. Civil service jobs are cushy positions that give up big salaries for incredible benefits like healthcare and pensions.
Government positions for skilled workers are incredibly in demand because the benefits outweigh most salary increases you could get in private industry.
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Mathematically worse than 100% match on a fricking 401(k), but hey maybe some risk-adverse people like the fricking guarantee of a fricking government pension.
https://www.federaltimes.com/opinions/2023/10/24/why-federal-agencies-have-a-retention-problem-and-what-to-do-about-it/
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There it is. Yeah, if you're an actually useful techcel it's hard for even private companies to keep you locked down.
That's most people in civil service. They're just there to collect paychecks in a low pressure environment. The idea that they're working out of the goodness of their hearts because they love their fellow people so much is insanely naive.
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Or the work is more interesting, especially if you work in an intelligence agency or deal with policy.
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The big issue with government workers is the difficulty firing them. What you get alongside the ones who are doing it because they care, are the ones doing it because they can't hack it in the private sector or any job. There's a thick film of hanger ons and forever make-work sacks. It's a good place with decent benefits to hang out forever when can't help yourself from being explicitly subpar.
Trump isn't really going to fix that, but they're very much out there, wriggling about, a somewhat different breed from private sector wastrals.
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I know a public sector alcoholic who didn't work for 4 months, followed it up with a month of accumulated PTO, then quit. He proceeded to do nothing but drink for like 7 months. Once he ran out of booze money, he took his old job back because they actually reached out trying to rehire him. He's still drunk all day. From what he's told me, you basically have to do something illegal and be flagrant about it for them to even consider firing you. The pay is shit, but you can retire in your 50s.
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!anticommunists
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He's right, every single of those zero people could get better jobs
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They all work for the government for 20 years and then retire to work for 3x as much at Booze Allen for another 20.
The good ones anyway. I knew a retired marine Colonel who skipped the intermediate fed job and went straight to contractor. Between the old retirement system and his paycheck he was probably close to 350 annual.
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I worked with a guy like that once, 21 years army, 10 years fed services, and was on his last 10 in private sector. Dude got like 8k a month between pension and disability
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Colonels don't retire. They just move offices.
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350 USD per year? That's not a lot
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That's a life changing amount of money in Australia
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Australia isn't real.
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That's DOD.
The research arms of USDA, HHS, TD/Fed, etc are pretty profoundly good at what they do. They either don't have private sector equivalents or they are very small.
FDA and CDC have the longest running nutritional and health study in the world, basically the gold standard of data to understand relationships between diet and health.
Beyond the research side the chaos at state is going to be hard to fix. That side of the house is basically relationships on relationships, it's going to make it hard for us to do useful diplomacy for a long time
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Which people?
What's wrong with my family?
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Nothing grandpa nothing at all
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Good. You want a sausage? There's too many for me.
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Yes I would like a sausage
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Better jobs might expect actual results
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Yeah lol.
A lot of civil servants are people who could work in biglaw or consulting (or have in the past) but have a lot of family money (basically anyone who's grandparents were white collar workers and saved and had only 1 child has like 20 mil in the bank) so they chose government jobs which are stable and prestigious enough for their families.
These are competent, high iq people.
Making them work for subhuman worms like kash Patel or JD Vance will cause them to quit.
Same with some crypto scammer terrorizing them.
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Good, I hope they all quit
Purge the system of the commies
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Would rather purge it of 2 bit salesmen and scam artists
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No, competent bureaucrats are worth more than Elon Musk and other hacks like him.
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!burgers
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Name one
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Sir Robin Butler
Sir Gus O'Donnell
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OMG you kids like to LARP about the olden times.
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Nothing new under the sun
Commies love infesting the government, as always
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Seriously hoping this is bait bro.
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Yeah the US Federal Government is the most competent organization the world has ever known, deploying and managing a modern military across the entire globe.
The doomer nihilism infecting the chuds needs to be forcefully eradicated. Their solution to the problems of government dysfunction is to put a dysfunctional boomer in power and at some point they need to look in the mirror.
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None of these people have ever had to work for large, entrenched corporations and it shows. R-slur-tier bureaucracy isn't exclusive to the government by any means.
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"If the government were run the way my cousin Jerry manages his Subway franchise, we would make it to Mars"
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Go back to your groomercord server
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I don't read 99% of comments longer than 2 sentences (just ask
@Redactor0). I don't know what you said but I know you're a groomercordBIPOC and you need to go back.
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I can attest. This guy isn't even an r-slur, he just doesn't give a shit about anything.
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Unbothered
Moisturized
Happy
In my lane
Focused
Flourishing
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communism isn't when the govt does things, smh
govt is a mainstay of classic liberalism despite neoliberal frickwits tryin to redefine all govt action as communism.
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The Ukraine part is the worst, that would make us border Russia again, that's like out of a horrible nightmare. I really hope he won't screw over Ukraine that much, that they lose everything.
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The Baltics, Finland, and Poland (Belarus may as well belong to Russia proper) say hello. I want to F over Russia in Ukraine as much as anyone else that isn't calling for direct NATO intervention, but
1) NATO has already bordered Russia for the last several decades
2) Russia was in no state to take on NATO before 2/24/22. Now would be suicidally stupid, too dumb even for Russians.
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I was specifically talking about my country Hungary, I know that NATO already borders them. I also know it's irrational for Russia to attack NATO, but if Putin and his close circle decides what do to, that is what Russia will do,
noone inside Russia will stop them, no matter how irrational what they'll do will be.
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That's fair. No one wants, or should have to, live next to Russians.
Putin's not that irrational. His stupidity in the Ukraine war was believing the Russians were capable of pulling it off in a timely manner against one of the poorest countries in Europe. If the war lasted 2 weeks and they installed some puppet in the Ukrainian government, this would have been 2014 all over again. Europe would meekly object, Germany would send them even more money for fuel, and the US would have shrugged, fait accompli. It wasn't until it became obvious that this would be a slug fest that the West decided this would be a much more fun way of decommissioning all that ordinance that was nearing its end of life.
With their gutted reserves, it would take decades to assemble even a token force that wouldn't be steamrolled by NATO.
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Sadly Królewiec (Kaliningrad) is still not our, so you don't need to even go tho these lengths.
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Oh right. Forgot about that little slice of Russian heaven.
If Russia offered it to you, would you even want it? Place is a dump after all that time in their hands.
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It was a
shithole before them too, it's Russian because no one wanted it after the war.If it was up to me extra territory is extra territory, only that something must have been done with the Russians there, I wouldn't want those.
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I mean, it kinda seems like Russia effortlessly rolled over all of NATO's best efforts already along with a trillion American dollars. If they kept going what more exactly would NATO throw at them? Germany's army of ten guys who train with wooden sticks?
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do you think ukraine was going to win the war if kamala had been elected?
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idk, but they would be in a better situation
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what would she do to make the situation better?
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Black girl magic
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7 more F16s
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You don't actually believe that tho
Trans lives matter
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Kamala would have social workers talk this through with Russia
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Hungary should be a state of Russia it would at least have some non whites that way
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Petition to trade Hungary for Ukraine
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That would be terrible for all of Europe. I'm cautiously optimistic about Trump ending the war, but you might be right.
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Bait bait bait bait bait
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Lolbertarians deserve to have bio weapons used on them.
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Yeah it will truly be over to America if a bunch of bureaucrats who made it their life's mission to shovel endless piles of money at ridiculous social programs were to become disillusioned.
Basically, it won't be a uniform effect. Some parts of the gov will be undermined harder than others, and some parts of the gov should be undermined harder than others.
Granted, yes there's a problem if Trump just replaces leaders with cronies in places that actually matter, and that will likely happen to a greater extent than usual because it's Trump. But as a general rule I can imagine there are plenty of bureaucrats who should receive some disillusionment.
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I sort of agree with you in that I'm sure there is fricking useless deadwood in the fricking federal workforce - and those people are the fricking ones who will never, ever leave because they know they can't do better elsewhere.
As you say,
Every single person working for 18f.gsa.gov left a fricking position with Google or Amazon or similar to do something that matters.
And exactly the fricking best people who have other good options will quit and frick off back to lucrative private sector jobs.
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This would be great in practice but we know how it's probably going to go down if he can do anything at all.
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Since Trump doesn't have the balls to cut the social programs themselves, cutting these bureaucrats will make these gibs more prone to fraud
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What, is cutting the bureaucrats going to somehow make it so the programs where they give a million dollars to their friends and 0% of it does any good magically becomes even LESS than 0% doing any good?
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Gutting environmental regulations, encouraging not using fluoride in water, weakening labour regulations, etc will do long term damage to Americans.
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truly
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what i dont understand is how they read that far
meaning they got to this line
and still decided yup this is legit
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what do you mean, b-word?
direct air capture of CO2 is fricking basically scifi tech at this point. it will likely never be economically practical.
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HAVE ANOTHER DRINK, CARP!
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Trees arent economically practical
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I don't know about domestic stuff. I mean, frick I'm not even paying or doing anything about these bills that I keep getting. But I am really good about foreign policy.
We're completed fricked. Fricked in the butt. We are gonna get bent over and railed even harder And they're going to take their turns on us.
Just today I mentioned the debate about whether Roger Hollis, the head of Britain's internal security service in the 1950-1960s was working for Russia. This is a huge mystery that a million people have pondered over for decades.
Trump is openly publicly appointing someone who is openly publicly working for Russia to be the head of all of our intelligence agencies. Everything, every secret that America has will be handed over to Russia. Openly. In front of everyone. Because the voters chose this.
The Weathermen couldn't do it but somehow Trump got a lot of America to want to be a vassal of Russia.
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Ok, but what are the bad things trump is gonna do though? Trans lives matter
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I don't think there's any way Ukraine gets fully annexed by Russia. I do think there's a good chance the Trump admin lets Russia keep the land they've currently occupied though.
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do you think president kamala could have made russia give back all the land they've already taken?
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No, but she would keep throwing money at Ukraine indefinitely.
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wasting billions more on an unwinnable war would do nothing at all in the long run. just make it even less likely russia would do anything we ask.
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I know that, but libs are r-slurred enough to keep writing Zelenskyy blank checks.
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It would give me more drone footage of ziggers getting BTFO so honestly worth it
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Weakening Russia is a fricking US
almost any way you try to spin it.
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Natural selection working as intended, loser species BTFO.
Actually it can, if CO2 is ever proven to be anything other than a meme it's completely possible to capture it.
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It's called photosynthesis
Now seriously, the problem with industrial scale carbon capture is that is costly and energy intensive. There's 2 types of capture, from the atmosphere and form an exhaust stream (the latter is used on oil and natural gas processing, thermal power plants, and cement factories).
Direct carbon capture involved sucking up air using fans and then capturing CO2 using sorbent solids like mesoporous silicas and metal-organic frameworks (the alternative is using amine solvent which is cheaper but less efficient). There's also a problem with storage and potential leaks.
Climate activists hate it because they see it as technowizardry which could go wrong, but even the IPCC climate mitigation plans and recommendations now involve Carbon Capture and Storage.
!ifrickinglovescience !chemistry
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You can make mesoporous silicas containing >1000m²/g surface area for pennies on an industrial scale. If there ever was a real intererst behind doing it it wouldn't be a real issue..
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Why store it, just burn it for power instead
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Lol. Lmao.
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Literally who nation
Literally mayo style slacktivism on an international scale
I will remind you that Donald Trump is president
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No species that goes extinct will be one you were ever aware existed beforehand
This is just like when Elon fired all those twitter employees and cute twinks like you were doom posting that twitter would crash any day now. Frick off lol you're not needed, it's all bullshit jobs
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If you haven't noticed declines personally, you need to touch more grass. It's been really
to see
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I need to touch grass? Because I don't spend enough time on X? Okay r-slur
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windshield_phenomenon
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Fewer bugs?
I say kill em all
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Declining animal populations you r-slur.
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Sorry I live in a city, not bumblefrick nowheresville
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Amazing that you even know what an animal is
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I've seen the joggers, of course I know what they are
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I have a huge boner for bureaucracy being a underrated cornerstone of civilization (next to sanitation systems and plumbing) and don't like Trump for this exact reason, but this bait is too obvious.
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You can actually. China is going too save the planet from global warming though, and the US is already the biggest oil producing nation in the world and oil production is not based on just drilling all the oil you can. The US oil companies probably don't even need too drill extra oil anytime soon.
True.
Wrong partially. It would take 15-20 years too destroy a governmental culture at least.
@Salvadore_Ally_Chud love sucking peepee except for mutilated circumcised peepee.
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why does anyone think us leaving that thing is going to destroy the earth?
has this paris agreement done anything in china? are they suddenly not polluting because of it? do you think every single corporation in the US is going to instantly go back to 1950 style?
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Are you trolling or this much of a wingcuck?
Are you even American or are you the Hungarian femboy?
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This isn't really true. Federal salaries are low compared to the private market, but TCO including all retirement benefits is higher for most similar roles. Working for the federal government is a good long game to a middle-class career and an upper middle-class retirement.
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Oh no
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The Paris accord should be the last straw after abortion women shouldn't be allowed to vote anymore
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Don't care
Don't care
Don't care
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Paris Climate Accords are a joke. Even if you buy into the climate change myth
Trans lives matter
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https://rdrama.net/@PeepeeButtKiss/wall/comment/6954961#context
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meh climate change advocates have no idea that whatever damage trump can do is utterly meaningless in the face of what we already did over the last century. the extra 10 or so ppm that might be attributable to a trump govt is just nothing compared to the methane apocalypse that awaits us already in a century or so (hopefully not less, but u never can tell with these things)
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I hope you save the fish and you're entire neighborhood burns down
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Don't matter and don't do anything useful. It's like recognizing you are in a drought and only watering your lawn 6 days a week instead of 7.
Need either the EU or US to adopt global carbon taxes which creates an opportunity cost for countries not doing so.
4 years isn't enough time to break institutions. He isn't (yet) going after anything that is going to be a huge problem to fix or didn't need fixing. It's a shame the FDA is so insulated from executive power as drug regulation is old as frick and badly needs a rewrite.
If he goes back on his social security and Medicare protection promises and guts them the pain may have been worth it.
I'm semi-hopeful the result of this is a pendulum swing to technocratic order.
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