~75% of farm workers in Bakersfield didn't show up today 
https://old.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1i7r7ot/75_of_farm_workers_in_bakersfield_didnt_show_up/
ITT hysteria over food shortages, mocking Americans wanting good wages and wanting the brown wage slaves back in the fields
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I'm not used to liberal spaces anymore its weird to see them all mocking Americans for wanting money, advocating for CA separating and valuing illegal immigrants so much.
Personally I only think there will be prices increases on specific crops for now, and if Trump doesn't pull back farmers will just purchase automated picking machines they only didn't before because mexicans were that cheap
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NOOOO WE NEED TO HAVE SLAVE LABOR NOOOOOO
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Rightoids are not dodging the r-slur allegations
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They don't pay income tax, payroll tax, FICA, work comp., keep OSHA reqs., etc.
This drives wages down for everyone.
Add in people who are desperate...
I think this might be projection
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It doesn't. Illegal immigrants only drive down wages for other immigrants. They are a big net positive for real am*ricans.
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So you think blue collar workers are all immigrants?
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Yes
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That still isn't slavery.
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Saying it's slavery is hyperbole.
Yes, hyperbole is bad but it's kind of par for the political coarse, at this point.
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Tax compliance rates for undocumented is higher than for natives. All the possible paths to status requires them to have been paying taxes.
They are the same thing and as above.
If you employer is deducting that from your pay then you are being scammed and are an r-slur.
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It's all how you lower wages. All those things that are costs that illegals don't pay.
This gives companies an unfair advantage in terms of cost and will use that advantage by lowering cost. This causes a race to the bottom.
The studies that've shown this are so cherry picked, it's silly. You're a silly person.
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If they're citizens why are they scared
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They aren't. They are trading labor in exchange for citizenship for their kids and money.
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Then why are farm workers not showing up?
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Because they don't want to get deported at work?
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But if they are ok to work here why would that happen?
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What r-slurred point are you trying to make?
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Being an illegal immigrant doesn't mean they are a slave.
I'm not sure what you're arguing here
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No
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Low income labor needs to happen. Rn low income Americans are dysfunctional and can't hold down these kinds of jobs.
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This is actually true. Low income Americans are worthless frickups and we'd be better of deporting them instead of the
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I wouldn't go that far, but making every non-drug addict in the country go to college and become an analyst means that our "skilled manual labor workforce" is now a bunch of drug addicts who unsurprisingly are incapable of basic things like not doing drugs and showing up to work.
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Yeah exactly. Anyone remotely competent fell for the "go to college" meme and now works at a pointless desk job making less than they would as a plumber (which is beneath them obviously).
The only people left to work in skilled/unskilled labor are unreliable frickups who can barely chew their own food.
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Absolutely kills me how "be a PM" aka a glorified secretary is "high status" but being an engineer at an auto plant isn't
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I mean all wagies are low status, but yeah.
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This compounds because now you can't go into a blue collar profession unless you want to work with unstable drug addicts, and this extends to the white collar guys who work those jobs (civil/mech/EEs).
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Agreed
but you are directing that at a fellow dramatard implying that they are a rightoid not dodging the r-slur allegations which is not only not true but not even possible as that would mean that they are a rigbtoid and that can't be true as that would be impossible due to the fact that rightoids can't be on rDrama here since there are no rightoids on rDrama 
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commies gonna commie
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If you want cheap food, yeah unironically
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No one ever considers temp workers, it's illegal or unionized lefties
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We used to force the current homeless population into farm work to feed their habits, RETVRN
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Honestly the Soviet system of having all farm workers be functional alcoholics who lived in concrete Kruschevkas in the countryside seems far preferable to our current farm labor system
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There is no honor with addicts though. It would be very quick that some rogue alkie posts some sob story on Insta about their slave conditions they signed up for that bleeding hearts shut the whole thing down.
Otherwise i think it's a fine idea.
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Well, the Soviets also had a solution for bourgeoisie complainers after their useful idiot value was exhausted ...
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I heard canada has seasonal work programs in logging and ag through which they hire a bunch of mexicans? Heck i think that would kill two birds
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Ye canada is cold half the year so it works out for 6 month visas where they go home to Mexico with a years wage in that time and come back next year. My aunt lives next to a couple wine vineyards in BC with them and she said there was never any issues there
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Yeah and Canadians constantly b-word about it
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Why are they migrating across a continent to be a slave
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better to be an american serf than a Mexican one
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If by serf you mean worker. They are no more a slave than anyone else who has to work to provide for themselves. This idea that letting them work here is some form of abuse is so stupid. Foreign labor should be banned in some cases because it hurts American workers, not because it hurts foreigners.
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