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EFFORTPOST :marseydisgustnotes: COMMUNITY NOTED Counterpoints to common arguments for circumcision - a handy guide

CIRCUMCISION

As you probably know by now, I firmly stand against the circumcision of infants and young boys. I believe that it constitutes genital mutilation and that it is barbaric that this practice continues without strong legal and social consequences. I don't care whether it is your religion or your culture, circumcision is wrong. I don't care what grown adults do with their bodies, although I would also advise them not to get circumcised.

For many of us, it is obvious that circumcision is a bad idea. However, there are several groups that have worked hard to convince the public that circumcising their child is the best choice to make. Don't fall for their tricks! Today, I'd like to discuss the common arguments made for circumcision, and why they are incorrect.

Before we begin, a quick survey. How do you feel about the circumcision of babies and young boys?

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Circumcision prevents STIs and STDs

It is commonly said that circumcision is "cleaner". The logic is that the foreskin, with its many folds, traps dirt, leaving you more susceptible to infections and diseases. With the foreskin removed, it is easier to wash the peepee and prevent dirt from accumulating. According to this logic, men with foreskin are more likely to develop smegma and to infect their partners with bacteria and viruses.

More specific medical claims are also made, and it would be useful to outline them all. Firstly, it is said that circumcision reduces the rates of UTIs, or urinary tract infections. This is noteworthy, because while UTIs are normally easily treatable, they can lead to kidney complications in some instances. It is also said that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting HIV. This has been the motivation to encourage circumcision within African populations where individuals are at high risk of being exposed to the virus. Lastly, there are claims that circumcision reduces the odds of one acquiring penile cancer.

What's the truth?

When it comes to arguments for circumcision, the hygiene line of reasoning is perhaps the easiest to debunk. It is ridiculous how much data there is disproving most of these talking points, yet people act as though research stopped in the 90s. It is sad, and it is an indication that even our medical institutions are not immune to propaganda.

Where do we begin? Let's begin with the general argument that circumcision is cleaner. It is true that the lack of foreskin makes the peepee easier to clean. However, this is simply due to the fact that there is less surface area to clean. This is like saying: "if you cut off your fingers, your hand will be cleaner". Of course it will, there is less hand to get dirty! Besides, if one considers the ease of washing your peepee, it is ridiculous that anyone would think you need to remove skin to keep it clean. It certainly isn't worth mutilating a child over.

Next, let's get into the more specific claims. Firstly, many circumcision advocates argue that circumcision reduces the rates of UTIs. Well, it is true that circumcision reduces your odds of acquiring a UTI. This is what the evidence bears out. However, it is useful to zoom in on the research to get a clearer picture of what's going on. What we find is that the risk of getting a UTI during childhood is a measly 1%! Not worth mutilating a child over. This is pretty much the conclusion of a study published by the National Library of Medicine. They claim that:

Assuming equal utility of benefits and harms, net clinical benefit is likely only in boys at high risk of UTI

As we've discussed, only 1% of boys are at risk of getting a UTI, so the number that is a "high risk" is minuscule. Should these boys get circumcisions? Maybe, but other solutions to UTIs should be considered first. Circumcision is a drastic measure.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15890696/

It is also worth noting that circumcision of infants may be the very thing that causes a UTI! When an infant is circumcised they are left with a wound that can be irritated by faeces and urine in the diaper, leading to infections. In short, just leave the darn foreskin alone.

As previously mentioned, circumcision advocates also claim that circumcision reduces the odds of one contracting HIV. If true, this would be an important discovery, as it could lead to us making headway in the HIV/AIDS epidemic that has gripped the African continent. So, what does the research say? Well, most studies claim that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting HIV by about 60% for men. This is also the number cited by the World Health Organisation.

https://www.who.int/teams/global-hiv-hepatitis-and-stis-programmes/hiv/prevention/voluntary-medical-male-circumcision

According to one study:

Circumcision reduces both the total bacterial load on the peepee and also specifically reduces the relative abundance of these anaerobic genera associated with HIV acquisition. Significant penile microbiome changes are apparent within 6 months of circumcision, and anaerobes continue to decline significantly for at least 2 years post-operatively, mirroring the progressive declines seen in IL-8 levels.

https://aidsrestherapy.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12981-017-0167-6

With this evidence at hand, it would seem that we should rush to circumcise all Africans to end the HIV epidemic. Let's get started.

HANG ON!

Before we start snipping off Black foreskins, we need to consider a few things. It is worth noting that there are parties within the medical field who have a vested interest in ensuring circumcision continues. After all, it is a source of income for hospitals, and foreskins are purchased by the cosmetics industry to make skincare products.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-beauty-industry-is-part-of-a-baby-foreskin-flesh-trade-anti-circumcision-activists-warn/

This is horrific, but it is important that you understand this so you can accept that much of the research surrounding circumcision is deeply flawed and skewed to promote the practice. However, there are a few dissenters willing to speak the truth, and through them, we learn about some of the shortcomings of common circumcision research. As we previously discussed, most papers claim that circumcised men enjoy a 60% decreased risk of contracting HIV. This may be a tempting statistic to believe, but you should be cautious. As one paper points out:

the clinical trials were rife with various types of bias, such as attrition bias (the number of participants who dropped out vastly outnumbered those who became infected), duration bias (the trials were not long enough to determine if the positive effect would plateau) and expectation bias. Some of the primary investigators had already called for mass circumcision, Travis writes, so it is no surprise that they got the results they expected to see. This expectation of positive results may also explain why all three trials were terminated early.

The paper also warns that promoting circumcision as a form of protection against HIV is dangerous. It is explained that:

mass circumcision could lead to problems in some settings. It could discourage the use of condoms, for example. Also, circumcised men are "likely to present themselves, especially to poor or illiterate village women, as rendered surgically immune to HIV."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3255200/

Most importantly, consider this: if you are circumcised, is it wise to have unprotected s*x? No! So the choice is either to wear a condom or cut your peepee and wear a condom anyway. Why cut your peepee?

Lastly, we need to address the claim that circumcision reduces the chances of a man acquiring penile cancer. This is probably the most abhorrent one, as the claim is that circumcision is effective at preventing penile cancer IF it is performed on an infant. The same effect is not noted in adult men who are circumcised. As one metastudy notes:

We identified eight papers which evaluated the association of circumcision with penile cancer, of which seven were case–control studies. There was a strong protective effect of childhood/adolescent circumcision on invasive penile cancer

BUT this paper also discovers the following:

In two studies, the protective effect of childhood/adolescent circumcision on invasive cancer no longer persisted when analyses were restricted to boys with no history of phimosis.

In contrast, there was some evidence that circumcision in adulthood was associated with an increased risk of invasive penile cancer

You should also be aware that penile cancer is exceptionally rare to begin with. In the USA, less than 1% of the male population acquires penile cancer. So ask yourself, is it worth mutilating a baby over? I say protect the foreskin because I'm for skin. Read that again.

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When circumcision is mandated by religion and culture

For some, the arguments for circumcision have nothing to do with health or hygiene. Instead, they believe that circumcision should be done for religious or cultural reasons. Let's go through a few common religious and cultural arguments.

As you all know, circumcision is a part of Judaism. Circumcision is part of a ritual known as the Brit Milah. They circumcise infants because they believe they are adhering to a covenant between God and Jewish people. The following verse is often cited:

"This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised." (Genesis 17:10)

Personally, I would not worship any God who wanted me circumcised. That's gross! Anyway, the ceremony involves a "trained" specialist known as a mohel (usually a Rabbi) who is supposed to ensure the procedure is done in a way that adheres to Jewish laws. Sometimes, the mohel will perform what's known as the Metzitzah B'peh, which involves sucking the blood of the infant straight from the peepee after making the incision. After the circumcision is performed, there is a great celebration.

Jews aren't the only ones who practice circumcision. For example, Muslims also believe that cutting the foreskin is the right thing to do. It is not mentioned in the Quran though believers point to the Sunnah and Islamic tradition as justification for the practice. Many Muslim boys are circumcised at birth, though some are circumcised during puberty as a coming of age ritual.

The obligation to get circumcised isn't just a part of religion. Many cultures around the world have adopted circumcision as well. In South Africa, for example, Xhosa boys participate in Ulwaluko. This is a ceremony held in the mountains yearly, and it is part of a coming of age ritual. The entire ritual lasts about a month, and the boys are circumcised without anaesthetic.

What's the truth?

This is nonsense! These are by far the worst arguments for circumcision. In short, I don't CARE what your religion or culture says about circumcision. We know that it is genital mutilation, and therefore we should stop the practice immediately, at least when it comes to babies and young boys.

Furthermore, we must understand that religions and cultures are based on traditions that were forged long ago. As we advance and gain new knowledge, our cultures and religions should adapt to reflect this. You don't have to abandon your religion or culture - I get that it's part of your identity. However, you do have to cut away the harmful aspects if you wish for your religion or culture to flourish.

Sometimes, it is worth noting that an aspect of your culture is just silly. This is especially the case in the USA where the widespread propagation of circumcision is due to propaganda from a cereal manufacturer. Let go of this depravity!

While we're on the topic of culture, we might as well address the cultural belief that "cut" peepeees look better than uncut ones. This is nonsense. Firstly, circumcision leaves the peepee with an ugly scar. Secondly, it's not worth cutting your peepee to please women. Thirdly, and most importantly, it it deeply depraved to claim that you prefer mutilated genitals. Anyone that expresses such a preference should be ashamed of themselves.

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Circumcision is harmless!

When all else fails, this is what circumcision advocates lean back on. They essentially claim that the foreskin is useless, and that removing it is an arbitrary act. This is also what many men who have been circumcised believe. I understand why - it's a comforting belief, far more comforting than confronting the truth that your parents mutilated you at birth!!! So keep coping if it keeps you sane. There isn't much to elaborate on here. It's a relatively simple claim.

What's the truth?

Good Golly, it is completely false that circumcision is harmless. In fact, the act is very harmful. It is psychologically harmful, as you are violating a child's bodily autonomy. That is a horrible thing to do, and you shouldn't do it, man!

Here's what you should know - circumcision decreases penile sensitivity. Yes, that means s*x feels less pleasurable when you are circumcised. Nobody has a right to interfere with your s*x life like that, which is why every man should fight to eradicate circumcision. There is plenty of research on this topic. For instance there is one paper that states the following:

For the glans peepee, circumcised men reported decreased sexual pleasure and lower orgasm intensity. They also stated more effort was required to achieve orgasm, and a higher percentage of them experienced unusual sensations (burning, prickling, itching, or tingling and numbness of the glans peepee). For the penile shaft a higher percentage of circumcised men described discomfort and pain, numbness and unusual sensations. In comparison to men circumcised before puberty, men circumcised during adolescence or later indicated less sexual pleasure at the glans peepee, and a higher percentage of them reported discomfort or pain and unusual sensations at the penile shaft.

This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population. Before circumcision without medical indication, adult men, and parents considering circumcision of their sons, should be informed of the importance of the foreskin in male sexuality.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/

Contrary to popular belief, the foreskin is NOT useless. It covers the peepee head, ensuring it remains moist and the nerve endings are protected. When the foreskin is removed, the peepee head is exposed, and it begins to callous, leading to a loss of sensitivity. This is why circumcision is mutilation.

It is also worth considering the times that circumcision goes wrong. I have spoken about the case of David Reimer, a boy whose peepee was burned off during a botched circumcision. You will also be aware of the shocking number of deaths that come as a result of circumcision within the Xhosa culture. Furthermore, when Jewish rabbis put their mouths on a child's peepee, they run the risk of spreading herpes to the youngling. All these risks can be avoided by simply saying no to circumcision.

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Conclusion

Most of the arguments for circumcision come from 2 sources:

1. Cope

Many men have been circumcised and they cannot accept that they have been mutilated, and that their penile sensitivity has been decreased. Hence they cling onto any argument they can that circumcision is harmless, or that it is actually preferable to being intact.

2. Medical profits

People in the medical field stand to gain a profit from performing circumcisions, so they want the public to believe that circumcising babies is good for them, and that you are a good parent for circumcising your child. They typically ask the mother if she wants to circumcise the child straight after birth. The mother, who may be drugged, and is exhaused from childbirth, is overloaded at that point and she can't always make a clear, educated decision. This is wrong, and people in the medical field need to stop taking advantage of women in this way. Firstly, women know nothing about peepeees, it is not their place to say whether a peepee should be cut or not. Secondly, even if the mother said yes, it is against the hippocratic oath to perform circumcisions because doctors are supposed to "do no harm". Cutting off the foreskin when no medical condition necessitates it is definitely doing harm.

That's it for today. I hope you all learned a lot about circumcision, and are equipped with the knowledge you need to fight against circumcision propaganda. Remember, circumcision bad!

Truly, I say this as a feminist ally.


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t. Mohel who loves sucking baby peepeees

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Why don't you just chop you're entire peepee and balls off if you're foid likes you ballless and cockless enough? Oh wait. Americans are already doing that.

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Have fun on the natural journey that the logic of circumcision good takes you on.

@Salvadore_Ally_Chud love sucking peepee except for circumcised mutilated peepee.

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I pinned it entirely because sneedman's war on beautiful dongs has become so widely known


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Foreskin is there for a reason. Literally all organs we have are beneficial to us. People thought that appendix was useless only for later to turn out that it's crucial for immune system.

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I live in the real world (America) and over here, chicks generally believe that uncircumcized peepees are gross.

The sad truth is that my peepee is cooler than yours :marseycool:.

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By American chicks you mean the 150kg ones or the 200kg ones?

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I genuinely don't know what that unit of measurment looks like on a woman because I'm not poor and my peepee is radical.

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cutting ur sons peepee because ur worried in 30 years he might fail the pre-date peepee inspection

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cutting ur sons peepee becauae you love him and don't want him to grow up to become @Geniud2

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I cannot think or comprehend anything more cucked than having a cut son. Honestly, think about it rationally: You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a boy for at least 18 years solely so he can go and passively dock into another random man's supple foreskin meat…

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cutting you're sons peepee because you love him then acting surprised that he grew up too mistake his peepee for a clit and :marseytrain2:s out.

@Salvadore_Ally_Chud love sucking peepee except for mutilated circumcised peepee.

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Chicks like my peepee. The extra skin is like having a peepee that twerks. Plus, the non-Jewishness is like Spanish Fly.

If you're still unconvinced, just ask your mom.

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Append this peepee.

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The reason is we needed a little thing we could cut off with literally zero negative consequences, to show our allegiance to the God who created and loves us

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your foreskin does not spark joy.

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Cutting your son's peepee to appease women is the most cucked thing imaginable. You could cry softly while a felon rails your wife in your marital bed and still be less cucked than a man who mutilates his son to appease Midwestern slampigs. It's no coincidence that Jews and burgers are at the forefront of cuckold innovation.

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There's no way you aren't circumcised, no uncircumcised man thinks about circumcision this much

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@PillsburyDoughboy often wish @PillsburyDoughboy was circumcised. Foreskin is bullshit. Trans lives matter

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Are you insane? Why do you want you're beautiful foreskin gone? @Sneedman say this as a feminist ally.


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It's nasty. You shower and think you cleaned it thoroughly and then it's stinking 20 minutes later for no apparent reason so now you can't go in public and if you do you gotta practice social distancing. @PillsburyDoughboy couldn't even retract the darn thing til @PillsburyDoughboy was 25 and it's still tight and painful ten years later. You're peepee head is extra sensitive but it's sensitive in the way you're eyeball is sensitive so you're wincing in pain if some poor lady ever actually gives you a blowjob. And she's feeling bad cause she thinks she's doing something wrong but it's not even her fault. s*x is painful for the same reason and the horrifying thought of you're foreskin tearing is always in the back of you're mind. It's just an awful flap of skin and the Jews figured that out forever ago. Trans lives matter

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Go to the doctor you r-slur. You can get creams that help stretch it out and they can cut it off if that doesn't work

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I'll do it bb :marseyflirt:

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Neighbor just do it, find a doctor and pay him to remove your foreskin

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My peepee white and pretty and yours is brown and covered in skin folds :marseyindignant:

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Mine is moist and healthy, yours is dry and chafed :m!arseyindignant:

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Post hog foreskincel

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U first

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Masturbation is way better if you have a foreskin.

That's literally why the Americucks started circumcising their boys.

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Cope, you mutilated abomination......

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Can you go back to posting about South Africa :marseyflagsouthafrica:and other interesting things I don't know about? I am well aware that your peepee is fricked up. You can stop telling me about it.

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My ex is dragging my 2 y/o boy to the urologist tomorrow to ask about circumcision.

My answer's gonna be no regardless lol.

Screw that b-word.

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Doesn't matter what you say about infant genital mutilation :marseyjewoftheorient: . Illiterate, r-slurred Women make the decisions on if their baby deserves a 4 skin :marseywomanmoment2: , not moids :marseychad:

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Moid genital mutilation is good actually

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preventing STDs is done by wearing a rubber and not being a total degen

religious things who gives a frick lmao

moids do not need any help enjoying cooming, and the loss of sensitivity helps them last longer in bed which is an unambiguous good

lastly, and most important of all, anteater peepees are ugly. circumcision is needed to make peepees look better

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wammin who are accustomed to seeing circumcised peepeees prefer circumcised peepeees :marseybrainlet: great insight r-slur

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Africa is the home of circumcision and they're have some of the highest rates of HIV and other STDs in the world. Curious...

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If you leave the foreskin on a boy he might turn into @Sneedman

I rest my case

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Genesis 17:10

This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your seed after you. Every male among you shall be circumcised.

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doesn't matter -Sneedman

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tl;dr:

  • UTIs are treatable just spread antibiotics on your sons infected peepee that will be fine :marseyheadshotgory:

  • Little boys are usually clean anyway right? :marseypoor:

  • And okay it does reduce the risk of getting a UTI but that evidence is IN BAD FAITH :marseyraging:

  • Really parents are mostly not changing diapers and causing their children to be sick because circumcizing parents are BAD and DIRTY!

  • (evidence circumcision makes peepees cleaner) again in BAD FAITH :marseyraging:

  • Doctors get PAID to do circumcision! They also get paid to treat UTIs but that's not mentioned (in GOOD FAITH)

Circumcision reduces condom use because circumcised boys are STUPID AND DIRTY :marseystinky:

 

There was a strong protective effect of childhood/adolescent circumcision on invasive penile cancer

  • EVIDENCE CIRCUMCISION IS HELPFUL IN BAD FAITH AGAIN!!!! :marseyraging:

  • Your religion is meaningless to me and you are excercising your faith IN BAD FAITH :marseyraging:

  • Children KNOW when their autonomy is violated the first week of their lives. They just DO, okay? :soycry:

*Yes we know men often say their peepees were any more sensitive they would be 2 pump chumps but this guy who never stuck it in a woman says it's WAY worse to be cut :marseyshy3:

  • Some nonsense about medical misadventure

He failed to mention circumcision prevents cervical cancer but that's okay because this whole "effort" post is really a disguised advertisement for circumcision couched as criticism from the point of view of an r-slured person, and nobody asked what women think anyway

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Foids preferring it should be listed here. I bet even the bong foid in your posts prefer them cut despite being from the smeg islands. Foids are really the main driving force behind infant circumcision. More so than even the chosen ones, Muslims, and Christians.

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i think you should dwell on this topic and really let it out on your parents. maybe threaten to shoot up a temple on the internet.

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my weewee looks cool and happy and not frumpy and sad

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No trans lives matter

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