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Goldwater could come across the aisle but to portray him as besties with McNamara?
< Republicans under Goldwater trying to oppose any involvement of the US anywhere
Like where, specifically? I'm gonna be writing about that little excursion to Lebanon in 1958 soon. I've spent a great deal of time thinking about where the military in the early 1960s expected to get into a limited war. It's pretty much Indochina, Cuba, or somewhere in the Middle East.
You're telescoping. Hippies did not exist then.
You fricking moron. First, the CIA had already been there for a long time. Second, they actually fricking did this with the Gulf of Tonkin stuff. Are you people so determined to be r-slurred that you won't even recognize when the bad guys do exactly what you want?
There's about a 98% chance you're beyond reasoning with so I'm not gonna try.
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I'm talking about the 1964 presidential campaign and it's repercussions r-slur
Explain why or concede larper
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You're being extremely selective in your quotes. He wasn't saying we should pull our guys out of Vietnam. He was saying we should nuke Vietnam.
Now that's not as crazy as it might sound at first, because the US had a totally overwhelming advantage in nuclear weapons over the Soviets until... about 1964.
We can talk about early 1960s nuclear weapon delivery systems if you want. I would love that.
Something like 90% of the people on the list for Phoenix were arrested without a struggle. Surely you can find some to back you up. Chieu Hoi? Hundreds of thousands of guys. I'm gonna say the ball is in your court.
Let me emphasize to you again: Under Goldwater the H&I fire would get really spicy with an occasional nuclear shell thrown out there.
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So pulling out troops before 64 presidential election was a moot question. You're wrong.
Second, Goldwater wanted to not commit boots on ground.
Third, about the ICEX and MACV and PIOCC & DIOCC under them as Phoenix came into play which put the PRU (People's Reconnaissance Unit) into action:
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Yes, by 1968-1969 the South Vietnamese had pretty much neutralized any guerrilla activity. Phoenix was 90% just a neighborhood watch program. You see something, you say something.
Anyone who comes to it saying it's an "assassination program", I can't take seriously.
According to an American officer they had index cards for people who were complained about. If multiple people said you were a commie they would send a cop to interrogate you.
Their role in Phoenix was to snatch important bad guys from behind enemy lines. The ones who you couldn't just walk up and arrest. This is like 10%. Pretend it's an MMO quest.
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All these claims source?
Pulled out of redactor's dad's army regiment's butt
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