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You can read the full context behind the 'You will never be a real woman' YWNBAW copypasta here
The link does not offer full context. It references its origin on a 4chan thread but doesn't even give the get.
You can say whatever you want but it is true. Just because you "feel" you are a woman, doesnt mean you are one. Period. Its all in the post
Psychiatrists disagree with you.
Psychiatrists can say what they want, you will still, never be, a woman.
Why not?
You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. [full copypasta]
That's not reasoning. You just reposted the copypasta.
(Yeah no shit, that's what it's there for 
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Because for some reason you aren't getting the message.
His observation doesn't come from an appeal to authority, like yours and "psychiatrists" do. His observation is based off of reality.
I can say I feel like an Asian woman. I can say I feel like a foxen kin, and psychiatrists can agree that I AM one, all they want, but the fact remains I was born a white male. Nothing changes this. Surgery doesn't. Altering my hormones doesn't. Changing my posture and clothes doesn't.
Would you like me to pasta that copy for you, again? Or is 4 times good enough?
Heres the climax!
INTENSIFIES
Our brave little biological reality warrior then goes on to frick everything up by resorting to 2015 insults.
The battle continues, a year past the original post date. I won't copy it here, it's off in the weeds past the original point but here's the link many layers deep:
https://old.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/lyktos/ywnbaw/jco4w2w/?context=8
A couple of teasers if you want to delve into the ancient battlefield:
Imagine calling someone a "bootlicker" because they're more pro-freedom than you
Freedom to sin is terrible for the soul. Should be stopped immediately. Inshallah.
If I want to commit a sin that hurts me and me alone, then I see no reason why laws should exist to restrict that. It's my afterlife to afterlive.
There is no such sin that only affects the sinner.
Ivan Karamazov ... Grand Inquisitor ... Long gay quote from some dead russian with a stupid name
Yeah I'm not reading that great wall of china long text wall
Your lack of classical education does not render Dostoevsky obscure, kid. (my favorite cringe out of all of this)
Those who believe in omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent gods must know that such hypotheticals bla bla
[the battle ends 2 years after the original thread]
Honourable Mention (!bardfinn spelling)
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All 💯 the "validation" you 👈 get 🉐🇮🇹 is two-faced and half-hearted 💔. Behind ↩ your 👈🏾 back ⬅ people 👨 mock 😨😟 you 👈🕛. Your 👉👶🏼🚀 parents 👪🛬 are disgusted 🤢 and ashamed 😩 of you 👈, your 👉 "friends" laugh 🤣😂 at your ⛓👉 ghoulish appearance 🔎 behind 👟💥 closed 🚫 doors 🚪.
Men 👨 are utterly 🐄 repulsed by you 👉😏. Thousands 👌🌼💯 of years 🗓 of evolution 🐒 have allowed 😖 men 👨 to sniff 👃 out frauds 🚫 with incredible 😯‼❗ efficiency 📊. Even 🌃
s 🙋♂️👠 who "pass" look 👀 uncanny and unnatural 👽 to a man 👨🌊. Your 👉 bone 🍖 structure 🏠 is a dead ☠ giveaway 🎉🥳🎊. And even 🌃 if you 👈 manage 🧔 to get 🉐 a drunk 🍺🍻 guy 👨 home 🏠 with you 👈, he'll turn 🔄 tail 🍑 and bolt 🏃🏻♀️ the second ⏱ he 👥 gets 🉐📴 a whiff 🤑 of your 👉🏄🏾📝 diseased 😷🐱, infected 😖 axe 🙌😤😠 wound 💨.
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Eventually 💦🍆 it'll be too much 😩😂🙀 to bear 💯🐻 - you'll buy 💰 a rope ➰, tie 👔 a noose 😔, put 🔛 it around 🔃 your 👉😘 neck 🐪, and plunge 😵😲😩 into the cold ❄ abyss 😍😝. Your 👉 parents 👪 will find 🔎 you 👉, heartbroken 💔😢 but 🍑 relieved 🤤 that they no 😣 longer 🍆 have to live 😩 with the unbearable 💥👃👎 shame 😳 and disappointment 🙃. They'll bury ⚰ you 👈 with a headstone marked 🖍 with your 👶👈 birth 👑 name 📛, and every ☝ passerby for the rest 💤 of eternity 🌋🆎💅🏿 will know 🤔 a man 👨 is buried 🕳 there. Your 👉 body 💃 will decay ☠ and go 🏃🏼♀️ back 🔙 to the dust 💨, and all 💯 that will remain 😥 of your 👉 legacy 🐒🌄 is a skeleton 💀 that is unmistakably male 👦.
This is your 👉🏠🍕 fate 💀☠. This is what you 👈 chose 👉😎👈. There is no 🙅💔🚧 turning 💫↩ back 🔙.
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I don't see the value in clinging to biological s*x when recognizing gender instead verifiably helps with gender dysphoria of transgender people
The only reason you do it is because you're religious 
or just needed to rationalize hating them 
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Or you studied meiosis and biochemistry and genetics and understand sexual reproduction.
But you can also add "biological reality doesn't mean that you can't let people live their lives how it suits them without being mean to them or disenfranchising them."
"You will never be a real woman but that doesn't matter because you're still a person with needs and feelings and rights."
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We can seperate s*x from gender
Everyone knows chromosomes are real, but if calling someone a woman makes them less depressed there's no real reason not to. I won't say everyone who refuses to do so is malicious (even if a lot of them seem to be), but they are extremely pedantic at least.
What does recognizing biological s*x over gender benefit you?
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Because it's unhealthy for people to base their happiness on the willingness of other people to maintain their delusions
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So what? When you maintain them they become happy.
Calling them "delusions" is very misleading. It makes you think of shit like schizophrenic delusions
which you shouldn't reinforce, but that is because those always change and can cause victims to harm others and themselves 
Gender dysphoria is different. It is consistent and stops when someone sees themselves as the gender they wish they were.
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If it requires the world at large to lie about what they see, it's pretty fricked up behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. Believe if you are a man, woman, or whatever, but don't ask people to lie for you.
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It's not a lie if people see s*x and gender as seperate
Is it narcissistic for slaves forced into gladiator battles to not want to fight? Even if millions of people watching get frustrated if they don't see it? Sometimes the needs of the few can outweigh those of the many. And yes this was an extreme example but there is still a difference between clinical depression and being a bit pissed over having to change your language.
I don't think they should be a third category because that neither respects biosex nor sociopsychological gender. It also sort of alienates them.
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The vast majority of people see them as connected or the same. So yes, forcing people to lie is an underhanded psyop.
Not the fetishists who seem to have taken over the
population. Depression over self-centered demands not being met should be addressed by learning to accept reality: you can't control what other people think, not this reactive idea that everyone should think differently just because you get depressed if they don't. A sign of stalled maturity is believing the world needs to revolve around you.
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Does a lot of people saying something make it right?
All
s are asking is that you treat them as their desired gender. Society is not "revolving" around them when they do that. It's not self-centered to want other to think differently when the reasons they think they way they do are grounded on pedantic biology, religion, or straight up just hate.
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HA! Bullshit.
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But it's true.
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Wrong = bad. You're being bad right now.
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I'd say that's a very good reason to not do that
!transphobes
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Lardass
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But it never ends at just calling someone a woman, thats the problem. It becomes bathroom access, s*x segregation cant exist anymore, privileges for women cant be for them anymore, and lets not even get started on their insane obsession with going after children. If it were just about being nice, you could have maybe gotten there, but they werent happy with anythint besides full pretense of zero difference.
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You seem to just hate
s if I'm going to be honest. You portray them as some subversive evil force destroying everything. That is insanely out of touch with reality.
They don't "go after children", they recognize gender dysphoria can be diagnosed before the age of 18. Now of course we shouldn't let children decide this spontaniously but it's pretty clear when a teenager has dysphoria and tells you for years.
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Actually its very unclear, it resolves automatically in about 80, 85% of cases. What's clear is that most return to reality and how much damage the shit like underage hormones and blockers does.
No, if you want to be a freak in a dress you do you. The constant push of "treat me exactly the same as a real woman" is where almost everyone has a problem with them.
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Does failing to apply hormones with someone who is dysphoric not cause damage? Puperty is irreversible.
Why is it wrong for them to want that?
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^^
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I have never lied about my beliefs on this site.
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Go back to your groomercord server
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Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a subversive groomercord
, sure 
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Dysphoria in teenagers is a hard one for me to reckon with. I think if you want to do some thing that makes you happy but makes 0 sense to me personally after you're 18, go for it - we don't criminalize alcoholics who never operate a motor vehicle or get belligerent in public.
But kids get caught up in fads - it's so difficult to say that their dysphoria is genuine (setting aside the legitimacy of dysphoria for the sake of argument) and they won't cause more psychological damage later. That said, if you're genuinely trans and will be forever, transitioning while young lets you configure puberty like you want and makes you pass better and less dysphoric.
Idk it seems impossible to allow this without the collateral damage of kids chasing trends. Crackpot theory I guess is we need to allow some (operative word here being SOME) trans people to be disgusting, ugly, and worthy of ridicule, not just because they're trans but just for how they genuinely are (like that 50 year old guy in Canada who needed everyone to call him a little girl). Basically, we just need to allow trans people to exist but absolutely normally without the coddling.
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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.
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This requires no one to know about 'egg-cracking', to deny that ROGD is a thing, and also that anyone who disagrees with your opinion, not facts but your opinion, actually just is an evil person.
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I don't think everyone who disagrees with me is evil. But a ton of people are just malicious. Like half of the anti-trans movement just outright claims trans people are male feminists and libertarians. How are you supposed to negotiate anything with people like that?
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The benefit is its utility in every other facet other than social interaction.
For example: say you want to demonstrate kin altruism through genetic relatedness in hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants, etc).
You need to exclusively use the biological reality of two sexes which produce sperm and eggs. You need to understand the binary genetics of binary sexes. You need to understand haplodiploidy.
A different example: say you want to map out prehistoric human migrations. You use mitochondria from women (they are only passed on through eggs) and the Y chromosome from men (they are only passed on through sperm).
Gender studies people harass and protest and bring lawsuits to biology textbook publishers to include a token line at the beginning of the book that says "sometimes people don't feel that their body doesn't match how they feel" and then claim that biological scientists agree with them.
This is why archaeologists and anthropologists get harassed for saying they found an ancient female and then have to edit the report to include that they don't know the person's gender.
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Why are you earnestly arguing with a reddit brained cute twink?
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I quite like pointing out to crazy liars that they're crazy liars, and when I get bored I just do something else.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I also like watching their arguments mutate in real time as they try to justify their insanity in all the ways they can.
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I also think gender shouldn't be inserted in topics that clearly require biological s*x
But we aren't studying mitochondria most of the time are we?
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Mitochondria have their own DNA separate from the rest of your cells, and it doesn't change as quickly as human DNA, so it's more useful for super duper long ago periods of time.
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But how is this relevant to social interaction?
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Biological reality is useful.
Gender identity is not useful. It's just being nice in society, which is okay to do.
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Is treating clinical dysphoria of people not useful?
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You're assuming that everybody cares about the feelings of
s. Quite honestly you're better off trying to teach a downie quantum physics than appealing to empathy on rdrama.
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Lol no. This is no small request. By having everybody play pretend means you also need go to each institution, each workplace, each place of business, each online forum and threaten people if they don't buy into the larp. People don't take kindly to these demands especially if a she-hulk loses her shit because god forbid someone misgenders xher.
The better way for trains to have gained acceptance was to agree they are a third category, not browbeat people into agreeing with a psyop.
It's selfish to ask the general population to redefine their terms and ask them to lie just to accommodate you. Trains were never asking for equal rights, they're asking for special treatment.
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What are you lying about when you recognize gender instead of s*x? Who decides that you absolutely have to see people only by their biological attributes?
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The lie is that
s are transgender when they are clearly trying to be transsexual
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Okay, so why shouldn't you recognize their gender?
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Because there's no difference between men and women so they're not even asking anything of me. I treat them the same way I'd treat a psychotic self mutilating woman like ted_simp
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Gender is a construct seperate from biology but still heavily influenced by it.
What they are asking of you is to change your perception of their gender so they can be less dysphoric about their s*x. This dysphoria is as much of a biological reality as chromosomes are. What is not biological is the question whether you should go along with it or not. There is no good reason not to.
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This entire theory is a fringe Western belief concocted in the 1970s by libertarian quack John Money, it is accepted by modern western academia but by no means concrete fact, the science involved is about as sound as Freud's coked up ramblings about how everyone in the world wants to frick their parents.
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John Money doesn't have nearly as much influence on modern gender psychology as you think he does.
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Again, I treat men and women exactly the same. Everything they're asking for relates to concessions and special treatment I reserve for females
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Such as?
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How is gender not tied to biological s*x?
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This is a strawman
Nobody says gender is completely unconnected to s*x.
Gender is a social construct that is heavily influenced by biological s*x but still seperate. For example, most people born biologically male identify as male. But some don't.
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So if the vast majority of people don't agree a hirsute man in a dress is a woman, why the frick should they be compelled to call him one?
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Because other people get mildly uncomfortable at worst when they're told to not recognize s*x. Meanwhile for the
their self-worth and happiness hinges on it. One always beats the other.
And this is an extreme scenario. I don't think many people would get uncomfortable calling a passing
a woman anyways.
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My self-worth and happiness is tied to my perception of myself as an honest and trustworthy person. If I don't get to be those things, I get depressed.
So are you asking me to sacrifice my own happiness for that of other people?
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!cuteandvalid !cuteandinvalid !nonchuds !lgbt This is why we dont bother arguing with TDS sufferers. Just boring bad-faith lying fueled by nothing but hatred in their heart. You will never be able to convince someone like that.
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You aren't lying if you weren't stubbornly equating s*x with gender. It's really not that much of a hurdle to overcome.
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You're asking people to straight up lie because of your feelings. Agreeing to that is awarding narcissistic behavior. Not good for society.
s should have just agreed they are a third category which is far fairer compromise than demanding to be treated exactly like biological men/women. It's like they have no nuance or ability to negotiate their positions, and if they don't want to even grant an inch of understanding for society at large, there is no reason for society to need to entertain their fantasies.
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Why don't just agree with the schizophrenic who thinks squirls are talking to him. He's not hurting anyone have some empathy.
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Almost like they're mostly neurodivergent, or something.
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Why can't you just acknowledge jesus christ as you're lord and savior and turn away from sin, b-word? as a fricking religious person, it would make @PillsburyDoughboy happy if you did that. and isn't that whats important, b-word? Trans lives matter
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You sound like a vaginal jew
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