Discussing gender issues--my friend wants me to abandon the 'MRA' label because they feel the movement is beyond redemption and I don't want to be guilty by association of propping up the far right :LeftWingMaleAdvocates

Feminism is for men but actually it's for women so start your own movement but also you can't start your own movement.

>Unfortunately it's now become a situation where on this topic I feel like it's a straight white guy's word over a queer transwoman PoC's one. I don't think this is a dealbreaker, but it leaves me self-conscious about expressing 'redpill rage' or grievance of the non-woke kind. My friend knows I'm pretty sensitive, so a lot of the feminist lectures is prefaced with clarifying that she's not saying I'm a bad person, but there are problems with men and masculiniity and patriarchy etc. So we have conflicting needs.

A woke leftist MRA with a transwomanx bipoc friend who's a man hater feminist

I'm trying to find a source of masculinity as a disabled guy and it's hard;

There's a joke here somewhere

>By contrast, I had a fallout with another close friend (a gay man) this week. We've been sort of clashing horns about whether men's advocacy can co-operate with feminists or leftists at all (I think maybe, he emphatically thinks no.) He is 'gay MGTOW'

>For or a long time had feelings for me, which I didn't reciprocate

Oh great, he managed to break this gay guy's heart so bad he went MGTOW

>He isn't MAGA, nor American, but he hates feminists and leftists more than Trump

Amazing

>Finally, my partner (also non-binary), while initially sympathetic to men's issues (which is how we met), has started retreating to feminism a little,

Oh come on, this must be drama bait?

very sad profile

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