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I am learning to hate AI : r/teachers | Teacher shits on AI, admits it can write beautifully

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I hate it I hate it I hate it. 90% of our student body relies on it to complete their work. There is near to no originality in their writing and work. We are nearing complete dependence on it from some students. AI checkers work sometimes but students just use AI then switch the words around to avoid this.
I know the upside that it has for us as a society, but we are losing creativity and gumption with every improvement. I hurt for them. I used to read beautiful student writing and didn't have to question if it was written by a program. Now I am forced into skepticism. How can we lose so much with advancement?
/u/Academic_Let_1043
What are you actually losing? Oh no kids are cheating? Kids always cheated! This is the calculator argument all over again


									
								

							

							

								
									
								
							

							

								
	

							

						

						
						

							

								
							

						

					

					
						

							
							
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It's evil. Its upside is negligible, especially compared to its various harms. Just terrible, awful technology that we really ought to be avoiding however we can in education.
!nooticers I've noticed everyone on reddit goes on and on about the many harms of AI, without being able to name any of them, or if they do it's entirely made up. Like it "harms the environment" or "every prompt used half a liter of water!"

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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the science :sciencejak: says chatgpt uses less energy
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240402140354.htm
use this to buckbreak antiaicels

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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@676974 Here's the reply I wasn't able to send, since it's sorta related to this post too
https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738975997RTGa-LmCmir5vg.webp

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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tbh I think it will be a long time until AI can write a good cited paper, especially for history and more rigorous courses. I can see it writing properly cited meaningless and insightless slop soon though. Also anything that still has an in-person exam breaks the r-slurs that only use GPT.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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ai writes beautifully
chatgpt is capable of spitting out reddit-tier writing slop that's awful to read. Sure it might use big words and be grammatically correct, but nothing it can write will ever have SOVL

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Miqu Midnight on the other hand…

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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i assume by inner city hs standards its good

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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I've switched to a flipped classroom. There's incredibly limited instruction during class time. Students do any and all writing in class. This is the only way I can ensure students aren't using AI. It's amazing how much worse their writing is when they don't get to do it at home! School must really be sucking their powers.
lmao "I quit teaching to make them do homework while I watch and their grades (the only metric admins see btw) are dropping!"
/u/scalpemfins tell me how that works out for your career

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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>their grades are dropping
you curve that shit away. Admin sees a precise 75.0% average, every time.
>"I quit teaching to make them do homework while I watch
did zoomies never have in class tests? This explains a lot tbh

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Maybe have them write....with a pencil?
And then they'll have the AI write the content and copy it down.
And in class. No more take home writing assignments.
Great way to burn class time.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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And then they'll have the AI write the content and copy it down.
Honestly not a bad compromise since they're forced to write the eloquence they'll never possess on their own. At least some sort of writing skill will run off on them.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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The reliance on laptops, iPads, or some other attention-sapping arcane device in secondary education, is one of the biggest steps back in pedagogy over the last two decades. The boomers have always been right about cursive.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Great way to burn class time.
That would be good tho. Frick homework, who was the dumb cute twink who decided kids had to spend hours completing bullshit tasks after school?
Homework should be college or advanced classes only.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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It's bold of you to assert that AI has any upside whatsoever except to concentrate more wealth in the hands of the few...
I wrote a showrss.info clone almost entirely with AI. I wrote comments about what the function did and the AI wrote the function. Over 2000 lines, of which I wrote maybe 500. It has a undeniable benefit to the common man.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Hand-written paper essays are the way to go. If someone has an IEP allowing them to type written assignments, make sure they cannot access the internet on that device. Need synonyms? Here's a thesaurus. Want to know how to spell a word? Here's a dictionary.
It sucks that we have to do this, but the alternative is allowing kids to choose to let a program think for them.
So rob the children of the skills they need in college? Because no and I do mean no college student is using dictionaries and thesauruses at this point.
Your students will lag behind their peers, it will be entirely your fault but hey at least they "think" for themselves!

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Right, because having a generation that grew up only learning how to use Wikipedia as a primary source turned out so well for us

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Gave us AI didn't it?

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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she gon' b relly salty when AI teaches better than her

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Down with homework :marseyrise:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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I'm not convinced that AI (as it exists right now) is a benefit to society. All we're teaching people is how not to use their brains.
You're an r-slur and luddite.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1ijz4jm/i_am_learning_to_hate_ai/:
/u/Academic_Let_1043:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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