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The idea that Europe is in some danger even without the US is completely irrational

The EU has 450 million people, a nuclear-armed country and several more countries that could build nukes in a year or two if they decided to, and a $20 trillion GDP.

Every time I see articles that are like "Europe must prepare its security for a world without US help" I feel like I am taking crazy pills. Europe faces no serious external threat. People who think that Putin is going to try to launch a war against a EU country after 3 years of barely conquering a few villages have no understanding of how military affairs work. Who buys this crap? "Oh no a country that has 1/4th of our population and 1/10th our GDP is going to attack us, we all need to prepare to raise armies now that Drumpf told us we suck". It's ludicrous. Putin is r-slurred but he isn't ideologically motivated like Hitler was, he isn't going to risk his regime by invading any EU members.

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To suggest that the breakdown of Western alliance structures will have no consequences for either Europe or America is so foolhardy that I can only assume you are :marseygigaretard: or :marseyflagrussia:

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:marseygigaretard: or :marseyflagrussia:

:#marseypamsame:

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If they could supply Ukraine with shells I would agree.

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Well, neither could the US. Its one of those things were Europe could do it, but no one wants to pay a premium to quickly build up the necessary production capacity.

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Hitler: the Sudetenland should belong to Germany because lots of Germans live there

Putin: Eastern Ukraine should belong to Russia because lots of Russians live there

Also the NATO nuclear arsenal is predominantly from the US

Don't forget that nukes have thee components -- ground launch, air launch, sea launch. We have the ships and bombers to deliver the nukes and we put the ground launched nukes in their back yard.

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So, pretty much every leader who has started a European war is Hitler?

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vegans, dog owners, and drug users too :taynod:

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Wars over race defining borders? It's a good start

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This kind of thinking is what got Germany completely dependent on Russian gas for energy.

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Nobody's ideologically motivated anymore :marseygiveup: Every despot is the same money-grubbing self-serving boring bastard :marseymerchant: I just want some some creativity and passion for frick's sake

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:#marseyitsogre:

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