There's a new bill preventing food stamps from buying ""soft drinks, candy, ice cream, prepared desserts such as cakes, pies, cookies, or similar products."
It's expensive complex bureaucracy that doesn't add anything of value. Additionally "unhealthy" or "junk" have no standard definition while no properly ran grocery sells "bad food".
All that is being accomplished is greater stigmatizing abd punishment of food stamps recipients while making it harder to get food.
You can't clearly define "unhealthy food" so the government has to keep paying Coca Cola to kill our poorest citizens.
Ok. How many people should we deny for legitimate use to make sure that we stop all those bad folks from buying food you don't like? What even is the percentage of people buying shit like that over food they need to live?
It seems like more unnecessary over sight that will cost more time and effort for the grocers than money it saves.
For reference, 9% of food stamps are spent on soda alone.
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People don't like sin taxes when democrats are pushing them but big government is fine when it's coming from Republicans.
Not giving people free money to buy junk food = tax
when a Democratic administration wanted to reduce the amount of sugary drinks available in New York the Republicans shit themselves over libertarian concerns. This may surprise some people, but they're being hypocritical.
Because if something is legal, it should be given to everyone for free.
Maybe pass a law that makes sure healthy food is affordable?
Grocery prices too high?
that's probably why they're doing this. they want the poor to starve. they don't care about health lol they just fired people at the fda
Poor people will starve without soda and snack cakes!
Are these the same people who went ballistic when Michelle Obama suggested they eat healthier food and excercise more?
Yep. 💯
If you're unhealthy you want to pay for everybody to be unhealthy.
Highest rates of diabetes are in the South/red states…. You gonna tax their sweet tea too, Trump? Do it! Get them angry.
Redditors see this as a tax because they think food stamps are earned income.
Party of small government wants to dictate which foods people can buy. Cool.
Redditors, like Chris Chan, see food stamps as an everyday fact of life.
Just drove through Mississippi and one of the things we do is to count how many family/dollar trees we see before a seeing a real grocery store.
You can still buy cheese and pasta and milk and canned soup at those stores.
Why not just make healthier foods more affordable?
People would stop buying soda if only they could afford broccoli!
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It's just funny that "you cant buy candy or goyslop cancer-hot pockets on government gibs" is an outrage talking point
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9% of food stamps goes to soda... Just insanity.
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It helps the economy
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If America stopped its corn syrup industry then it would have a GDP comparable to Pakistan.
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Liquid gold
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Not really our porn industry prints three times the gdp of every normal country
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Corn is the wonder crop. It is Centeotl's blessing to us, the people of North !americas
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Yes, one of the most profitable crops, it is planted in my region.
If you ever visit a beach in Brazil you'll find some salesman offering corn
!macacos em toda praia você ouve algum tiozinho gritando MILHO!
QUEIJO!
SANDUÍCHE NATURAL, SALADA DE FRUTA
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I love corn
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This is soybean country BIPOC
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In Brazil the more soybeans a given state cultivates, the chuddier it's population becomes.
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Bizarro America
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Marsey Bizarro
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A weight average similar to African countries as well
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the rest of it goes too little debbie. Trans lives matter
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These people would be supporting it if Michelle Obama said it in 2011 at the same time as she tried to make school lunches more healthy. It's just outrage because the bad team is doing this.
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/r/foodstamps is just a whole bunch of seething over ideas like this along with posts like "I'm losing my benefits because I lied about my income, what do I do?"
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Oh frick another sub to watch 👀👀👀
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This would disproportionately affect the republican voter base. Let's see if it pays off. I'd put a popcorn Marsey here, but my food stamps wouldn't cover it
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They will be angry at first and screech that Trump has betrayed them, but with help of RFK, by midterm the average republican will look like this:
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We can share, bb
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Dig in!
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Why do people always make this mistake? Even Alabama still has 35% lib voters. People in majority red states vote red because they hate those fat welfare leeches around them.
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25% of bama is black.
the deep south
is like a 3rd world
democracy where
most people vote based
on which tribe they're a part of.
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exit polls
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Bubba still collects his bennies despite pooping on negros doing the same tho
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how about those racist republicans, huh?
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like everything the guy is doing is hurting rurals, I'm becoming an actual Trump supporter based on how much damage he's doing to rurals.
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Yeah not allowing poor people their goy slop is sooooo damaging
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Are rurals even that huge of a demographic on stamps? My preconceived notion was that mostly the poor single parent households in the cities were the ones who abused this system the most. But I can always be wrong
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Rurals have a small majority vs urban areas. They're about equal participation though.
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funny you talk about popcorn because I just recently ordered 3kgs of popcorn kernels and 1.5kg of cheese seasoning powder
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Should've bought Flavacol.
Which I just found out was SNAP EBT eligible, too wtf. Theres nothing nutritional in fricking Flavacol.
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Seconding that, got a popcorn machine and flavacol is an absolute gamechanger
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Republicans understand the value of tough love
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Nice quints!
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I always love this topic because millennials and Gen X who graduated before anything changed will swear up and down that Obama made school lunches better while a ton of zoomers that weren't in rich schools during the change will start foaming at the mouth about how terrible her changes were if you ever ask them about it.
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SHE TOOK AWAY MY TENDIES!!!
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They're GROWING ATHLETES and if they aren't allowed to buy 3 discount baked McChickens at lunch, they will literally starve.
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I had cousins in school texting me their lunches, they made shit worse and took anything worth while out, and basically banned the lunch ladies from cooking like ours used to like to do.
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Do they still have the rectangular pizza slices?
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They did have them but they switched to like whole wheat pizza and less sugary sauce.
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t. Zoomer.
I enjoyed lunch at my rich school, they even had a rotating selection of soups.
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It sucked and it was all her/their fault, but I appreciate it was more effort than presidential admins have put in in years. Obesity has been on the back burner when it's going to destroy this country worse than
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Idk, ask literally any cashier.
Let's just search /r/talesfromretail for "ebt" and
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It's really funny seeing /r/talesfromretail and /r/retailhell have struggle sessions over EBT recipients. They want to deny the stereotypes but their brains will always notice
the patterns
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My IRL waiter friends who are woke do a 180 when talking about race and customers. That's when I learned that Indians are "the BIPOCs of Asia".
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crazy they cant tell the difference between they own money and gibs
but it explains everythng
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Reminder that the main reason redditors memed themselves into believing that this guy
was a rightoid was because one line of his song dunked on the fats.
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I still refer to that as "The Fudge Rounds Song" and my wife hates it
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people on food stamps soon to be healthier than the average american
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It's easier to include than to exclude. I'd say only allow water, vegetables, chicken and gym memberships to be bought.
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Black hands typed this post
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look at this neighbor not eating fish
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Food stamps should only entitle you to free nutrient-dense gruel. If you want flavour or palatability you have to earn it.
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You can't buy beer or smokes or fast food with EBT so I guess this isn't the worst idea ever.
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Once saw a black lady buying like 40 boxes of prepackaged cornbread mix on stamps. Drove me crazy, b-word just buy flour and cornmeal
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I was behind a guy who tried to buy dog food and got shut down by the cashier so he ran and grabbed a couple steaks instead and was like, well I guess the dog is eating good tonight.
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dog owners shouldn't get food stamps. just eat the dog if you're starving.
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This might be the most moderate and reasonable political take posted on the internet in the last 10 years
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If you're getting free food then you should
have zero say in what the food is. Don't like it then build
your own food.
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!commenters
The commie subreddit /r/TrueAnon is SEETHING over these changes.
Bro thinks they be working.
EDIT: forgot link - https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1ir511e/food_stamps_discourse_is_insane/
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This would be a brave move and a respectable one too if implemented.
If you want to be obese on goyslop you do it on your own dime.
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There was a big discussion during last years dietetics conference circuit as a paper presented flaws in NOVA. You can have crazy unhealthy whole food diets and healthy UPF diets. High sugar drinks include no sugar added juices, 1 cup of OJ contains nearly as much sugar as 1 cup of coke
BIPOCs will get scurvy if they ban SNAP from getting juice.
Economically the administrative overhead is rarely worth the savings made when they try and do shit like this too.
The most effective way to deal with the issue is added sugar tax. Mexico did one recently that reduced soda consumption by 12%.
Cheese & pasta are part of the fatty and heath problem. Low quality carbs and excessive SFAs.
Poors need to eat more fricking vegetables.
Whole foods are not more expensive. That's a shared delusion Americans have because they associate canned and frozen foods with unhealthy.
They also have the r-slurred notion that organic is more healthy.
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Proving it's good to buy candy and soda for poor people.
[Hate slur]s don't buy juice, they buy drink. These are great quibbles to have but we can tweak the details after passing a bill that's 95% on the money. And it's virtually impossible to not hit your Vitamin C requirement in America.
If you define "shit like this" to include shit entirely unlike this. SNAP cost $95 billion in 2024 and 9% of that was soda. If it costs 8.5 billion dollars to change the eligibility of something in the food stamp system the program should be eliminated. People are trying to compare overwrought means testing schemes to a simple reclassification that we do all the time and for every new food product.
The issue isn't "Americans are fat," the issue is "taxpayers are paying for unnecessary things."
They are better than soda and candy and this isn't a health food plan, it's about not letting poors piss away our money.
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Maybe it should be
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Ozempic lets anyone with money be thin, it's fitting the cattle are hideous but we shouldn't pay to make them that way.
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I just hope in like 20 years it turns out to give everyone super ebola or something like that
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Give every American a one-time coupon for a free Crockpot and publish PDFs on how to make easy roasts. A $12 chuck roast can feed a family of four twice with some potatoes. I'm making french dip sandwiches in mine tonight
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Reddit pot
I prefer sneed roasts anyways
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There's already shit that's not allowed on SNAP and WIC. It's almost trivial blocking this stuff. First off, stop letting people use EBT at 7-11/other convenience stores and then tell Walmart/Kroger/Albertsons/Publix to disallow the items.
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Prepared food and alcohol are not allowed on SNAP, they are easy to codify.
How do you codify "unhealthy food"?
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terrible idea
You should encourage the leeches to kill themselves soon and not eat healthily. DOGE would agree
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A land whale can eat like a pig for 40 years without dying. The only way too kill them cost effectively is rat poison
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I'd rather the poors be less fat. Would rather be less grossed out every day
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Probably 100%
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If they made good decisions they wouldn't be poors
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If you ever work in a grocery store you'll see first hand just how much junk food stamp recipients are buying. When the EBT cards get loaded it's like a stampede of carts overflowing with chips and soda.
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So you can buy booze using unemployment benefits but during COVID they sent restricted benefits to the same unemployment cards.
It took them about a week for them to implement a blocker at the liquor stores and I was pretty sure we'd see another chimpout. Didn't last long thankfully.
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I worked at a small grocery store in a rich town. One time a lady in a nice suv got out with her fat goblin kids and waddled in to buy soda and candy with EBT. I was literally borrowing money to pay rent at the time. Unfortunately PizzaBIPOC is too smart to work the register so he would never see this kinda tomfoolery
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I worked at the counter where the tobacco was sold so it was common to have someone buy a bunch of candy with the EBT card and smokes with their debit card.
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Same, someone would buy a lotto ticket and a pack of cigs with crumpled up cash and get a candy bar and energy drink on ebt. Felt so gross.
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That or they use EBT to buy expensive shit, like steaks, because they have illegal income that can pay for their basic needs.
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Worked as a cashier (and got ebt as a student so I've been on both ends) and yeah holy frick so many people used EBT on soda. Just disallowing soda alone would be enough, it was disgusting. I'm just thankful I like to cook so when I was on it I actually ate real food and not slop. The worst I'd get is some ice cream but if they said "You can't get ice cream anymore" I'd literally just get heavy cream and make my own. People that can't make their own snacks are ngmi.
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Economics pop quiz! Consider a household whose monthly food budget is $300, of which $200 is their own income and $100 is from SNAP benefits. Their current spending may be divided into these categories:
1. $175 general groceries
2. $75 soda, cakes, and other foods targeted by this bill
3. $50 currently excluded items such as alcohol or food served hot
If the second group is no longer eligible for SNAP, what effect will this have on their total budget and how much they can spend in each category? Can you figure out the answer?
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This strawhold is unaffected
which is ok
if people want to spend their own income on junk then they should be allowed, at least this way they can't just try to live off mainly cat 2
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They'll spend their own money on everything SNAP can cover, then get into a fistfight with the cashier when they try to use it on ineligible items.
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Ah, you've studied behavioral economics, very clever.
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and they call it the land of the free
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Oh no the lazy and fat will have to learn to eat right.
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Based!
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I'm in favor of letting poors spend gibs on all the cream cakes they want on the condishun that they pay for their own inevitably needed medical intervention
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GOOD. @jew don't want too pay for shaniqua's fourth triple bypass
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School lunches under Obama were grim. They decided low calorie = healthy
. Lunch Every. Single. Day. at my school was the choice between a slice of shitty whole wheat cheese pizza or a turkey burger (a patty and 2 whole wheat buns). So high carb, minimal protein, no vegetables.
It wasnt even free lol, that shit cost $1.50. You could also buy overpriced low fat chips/zero calorie drinks.
I'm pretty sure prisoners eat better.
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Pretty much all the top comments agree with the USDA chief.
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Food stamps should only work on booze and cigs.
I wanna see shitface-drunk nigglets with a voice like James Earl Jones
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