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Not sure if this has been posted but it seems law is having a melty over Drumpfler declaring himself God-Emperor
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`the power to appoint (with advice/consent from senate) does not then presume a fricking power to fire. literally that same sentence says he can appoint supreme court justices ... and what because u think he can appoint them, he can also fire them, b-word?
`ur really that fricking stupid eh, b-word?
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Well you didn't quote a part that explicitly says who can terminate them or that the president cannot terminate them. One would assume that the founding fathers did not intend to have the head of these bureaucracies just be unfireable and unaccountable. They honestly did intend for them to be created at all.
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`they are fricking accountable ... to congress u moron, and to the fricking justice system. congress can simply change the fricking law defining/eliminating their appointments, and the fricking justice system can remove them for not following the fricking law
`the president does not have that power to just eliminate them, as the fricking constitution explicitly stated those appointments are fricking defined by law, not by the fricking president.
`it is fricking worth noting the fricking president does participating in lawmaking too, and can make it difficult pass laws he disagrees with, so it's not like he has no power here
`but the fricking position is not a fricking tool for 51% to elect a fricking single person, and then ram a fricking bunch of policy change thru u dribbling unamerican frickwit
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The protections on the state workforce are there to anchor against the whims and wiles of the opinions of each administration changeover. Imagine if everyone every 4 years acted like Trump and made wild swinging attacks at the workforce they gave at their disposal to get a lot done.
What Trump is deftly not telling anyone is that every time there is an administration change, the top few layers of all government agencies resign and are replaced with appointees.
Whatever Trump thinks he got defied on last time was the result of him being bad at appointing people to run those departments, or literally not caring back then.
Eight years ago the Public Enemy was The Swamp of elected officials, and now the Public Enemy are the mid level government schlubs working against him, who he has no evidence exist but they have to be there to blame for his failures.
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Those schlubs used the steele report, a hit piece essentially funded by Clinton, to run riot with Russia investigations and found nothing on Trump. However, it did kneecap his administration.
Also shit like Miley genuinely undermining him. Sorry no more billions for ukraine and peru trans comics, better luck next election.
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You're equating a law enforcement investigation with the DOD and park rangers and doctors for veterans
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Budget cuts have to be made. That's why they are being made.
He's not blaming "park rangers" for his last administrative failures, he's correctly assigning it to places like the FBI. What are you even talking about at this point?
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I'm talking about the schlubs he just fired at the VA and the parks and DOD. He's repeatedly vilified them on TV and social media and to their faces.
If he fired every single fed he would save 4% of the entire budget.
He's doing this stupidly. He needs to define what activities he thinks the government should execute and start with cutting that direction, not across the board.
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Where on TV and social media is he insulting park rangers?
Also frick the DOD I am happy if he does that. And the VA is the land of eternal frick ups.
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Where does it say explicitly that the way to eliminate these people is through congress. How do you pass a law to fire a person lmao
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`it literally says their appointments are fricking defined by law, which can be changed by congress. if the fricking congress wanted to make appointment subject to presidential removal they can do that.
`because u lack elementary education:
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If congress does not explicitly say who has the right of termination on the creation of the organization, it should be assumed that whoever is the head of the organization has the right to terminate because legally that is how every organization works. Trump is head, he can fire. The fact they don't explicitly outline this is the same reason they don't explicitly outline whether congress has the power to breathe.
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`the government isn't a fricking corporate hierarchy subject to the fricking whims of some elected CEO, you absolute moron.
`it needs to orders of magnitude more stable because there isn't a fricking market of competitors sitting around waiting to take up the fricking slack when it fails...
`u fricking unamerican neoliberal-brained r-slur
`for another example in the fricking govt: the fricking supreme court is fricking explicitly appointed for life, and not subject to anything beyond criminal impeachment, regardless of who appoints them.
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Most likely this goes to the supreme court who slaps Trump's fingers and tells him not to be such a bad boy.
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!commenters I didn't read this guy's posts but he sounds mad
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don't worry comrade, he's mad AND r-slurred
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