Lolbert goes out to bat for underage nipples

What does this have do with former generational-wealth-creating superstonk $BBBY? I don't know. This is what you get when your sub spends most of it's time on

/u/step_slunt is putting in a shift battling the evil forces of child nipple censorship:

idk about you, but the only time i ever wanted to see 12 year old nipples was when i was 12. since then, couldn't want to see them less. but i'm just one data point in a fairly small sample set of me viliml and SnugglesGodOfDeath. i'm feeling a bit perturbed that i'm in the minority here. maybe i'm just out of touch, but something tells me Snuggles is in the wrong here

You sound like the same type of person who enjoys being frog in a boiling pot. You've probably heard this over and over and over so I'll try to explain it a little differently than everyone else. emphasis on try. There's a reason you keep hearing "Its easy to boil a frog slowly" The boiling frog story is generally offered as a metaphor cautioning people to be aware of even gradual change lest they suffer eventual undesirable consequences.

It ALWAYS starts small.

"Oh why are you complaining, it's ONLY X."

Then "Oh why are you complaining, it's ONLY X and Y."

Then "Oh why are you complaining, it's ONLY 15 out of 26 letters in the alphabet!"

Then "Oh why are you complaining, the alphabet has ALWAYS been this way!"

I can give you a solid example with games. I believe it started with Oblivions Horse Armor, for a few bucks. Many people on my side said this was going to lead to more of it. The opposing side said "Oh come on its just $5, get a job. It's not that bad, you poor" Now 17 years later, every game has DLC ranging from a few cents, to (in the case of Civilization) 40-60 dollars. Every game has microtransactions.

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Then still involving games.... "Always Online" content that isn't MMO's. Almost every developer is going to "Always Online" products. It used to just be a handful, usually shooters like COD/BF etc. Now, around a decade later, almost all games are moving to this 'always online' model.

My side warned that this was going to lead to bad things, like you not being able to access your games/movies. That you don't truly own the game, and the developer can just 'end' it whenever and you lose 100% of your game.

We're just in the beginning of the end phases of this one. I can't remember the name of the movie company but they just pulled their licensing from Sony. And people who FULLY BOUGHT their movies, are being told by sony and the movie company that they will no longer be allowed to access their FULLY PURCHASED movies.

Then there's the games. As I said, its only just starting in any real force, but there's many games now that were 'always online' that the companies are just pulling the plug.

No matter how hard you Whaled, or didn't whale on it. The game simply no longer exists, and you have no further access to your character and game. Meanwhile I can still play Chrono Cross if I want to. And yes, I still have a fully functioning ORIGINAL ps1 disc set. My side warned that this was going to happen, and it did, despite the other side saying 'it never would'

There used to be uncensored anime in the US. Fully exposed nipples and everything (See Outlaw stars episode " "Hot Springs Planet Tenrei"") or even as recent as To Love Ru. The latter is an ecchi, the former is not. But you can see fully exposed nipples, sometimes crotches, and arses in BOTH. Then slowly they began to add light beams, blurs, black bars, etc. It was small at first. And only here and there. Then they began removing or censoring panty shots (Which for me are meh, they don't do much/if anything for me but .. not the point)

My side warned that it would get progressively (..pun intended) worse over time until everything was so censored as to be pointless, if they didn't outright remove or change the scene.

My side also warned that if we let them start censoring naughty bits, when they were done, they'd come for the violence and gore (Which they're starting to as of the last 2-3 years) and censoring or removing it all-together.

They're censoring game characters, media (anime movies etc) characters, they're censoring violence/gore now too.

It always starts small.

And there's people who say "Oh it's just X, stop whining" Yet here we are, at the end of a "we told you this would happen" Where almost everything we said WOULD happen if you let them turn on the stove, as you sit in the water like a frog. And it feels comfortable, like a hot tub. It's only a little heat, right? But they keep slowly, slowly turning the heat up. Well it's still comfy right? For now... sure. However, they keep taking a half an inch at a time - so you don't really NOTICE just how bad it's getting.

And now you're sitting in the boiling water, about to be cooked, after being warned that they were planning to cook you.

Never allow censorship. No matter how 'small.'

Jesus Christ, wtf? Did you really write that??

Hezkezl and TortieKittah are literally at the bottom of the thread implying that people complaining about censorship are libertarians and that people have to prove to them otherwise lol. Hezkezl was literally calling everyone sweaty neckbeards before deleting all his comments. And TortieKittah insists that we must prove that we are do not want to see Mio's already censored nips which they so graciously saved us from, cause otherwise he thinks we are libertarians.

UDON-EKO was surely a lot more of a stable and rational guy then these 2.

/u/Hezkezl /u/TortieKittah guys if you really feel that all our complaints are cause we are just some danger-to-society libertarians, as you both are implying, then please no need to even engage in any sort of conversation anymore. There's no point at all.

It's just so disappointing that people who are in the manga industry thinks this way. Do you think your job is to filter out the child porn from the manga that the libertarian mangakas are putting in their works? Is that what how little respect you have for manga? The point of the whole thread is, we just don't want you guys to be involved in our manga in any way, given the low opinion you guys have of the readers, the manga and the author. You guys response is all so sad. Manga is not something dirty that you guys have to clean up for us lemmings. Please try to have respect for someone's work or else please don't license it.

EDIT: By the way, you can use a website called UNDDIT to see deleted comments if you want to see just how insane the Hezkezl guy got. Literally flew off the handle calling everyone in the thread libertarians. Imagine acting like this as a representative of the manga industry. Imagine having this opinion of the readers of the industry you work for. I am genuinely disgusted.