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Albany is a shithole.

(((NYC))) should be annexed into NJ, culturally they are nothing like upstate which is much more conservative.

Albany is a blue island in a sea of red

https://www.divideny.org/

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Another rightoid confusing empty land for people.

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"Rightoid" lol. I voted for my neighbor (((Bernie))).

Socialism is when affluent cityfolk buy all the land upstate for their vacation homes and make it impossible for working class people to afford to live there.

But welcome back pizzashill :marseypizzashill: we missed you

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Idk what you are just stop calling empty land "red."

Fricking annoying drivel you see low IQ rightoids engage in to cling to their long running delusion that they're somehow a majority despite being out numbered by millions.

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People live there. It's not empty. Minorities deserve representation too.

There are significant cultural differences between the people who live in the city versus upstate.

I strongly prefer living in Burlington to living across the lake in Plattsburgh. Would much rather live in NYC than Syracuse.

Doesn't give me the right to tell those rightoids, ruralcels, whatever, how to live their lives. Borders are arbitrary.

Part of why upstate NY is so much more conservative than VT is reactionary response to feeling of abandonment by Albany. People there associate the dems with Bloomberg types, not people like Bernie, and for good reason.

NYC shouldn't be deciding what's best for upstate and vice versa.

And NYC has much larger tax base, much higher average income. They'd benefit from division too. Can spend more on the subway or whatever, upstate can buy more guns; everyone wins.

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I'm not even reading past the first line. No, people do not live there. Like 70% of that land is legit empty.

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What do you think the actual solution is to population density gravitating towards people who literally do not understand the legislation required for rural areas?

Like yeah votes should be equal but trying to regulate entire rural industries and having 90% of the voting base as urban sounds like a recipe for disaster when they're too distanced from it to understand the reprecussions of their votes

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My god where in the frick do you people get this shit at? The entire government is rigged in favor of rurals, bills favoring rurals are more likely to pass state governments than ones favoring cities.

Rurals live on welfare money given to them by cities.

And even with all of this they are still failing because they elect low iq social conservatives offering them nothing more than racial politics and resentment.

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Get what stuff? I think its balanced now I'm talking hypothetically like 100 years down the road, urbanization is a very real thing.

Im genuinely just trying to pick your brain as to what your solution to that hypothetical would be as youve probably been exposed to a lot more information or theories about it than I have. This wasn't meant to be any sort of attack or gotcha or even expressing any point of view on my part, sorry if it came off that way

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Agreed. Frick ruralcels. We need to divide New York and stop letting upstaters determine public policy for people in NYC.

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Agree, 6 million people do not exist.

CP.win confirmed?

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This has to he satire lmao

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I'm just mentally defective

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Oy vey, look at this goy doubting the existence of the 6 million

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idk man, 6 million seems a little high. Surely the number is closer to 6,000, or maybe even as low as 600. All I'm saying is that the record keeping isn't as accurate as people think it is.

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Tried to search newspapers.com for old newspaper articles about upstaters to prove you wrong. I searched for articles written after 1941 but I couldn't find any reference to upstaters until the early 1970s?

Winston Churchill visited New York several times, but in the six books he wrote never once mentioned upstaters. Eisenhower's memoirs don't mention them either.

Idk maybe you're on to something....

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Unmargined election maps and their consequences have been a disaster for the politisperg race.

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Punctuation, sweety.

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Back from Alaska already?

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No just able to phone post sometimes

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Anchorage?

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"Rightoid" lol. I voted for my neighbor (((Bernie))).

Plenty of rightoids claim to have done the same.

:marseyshapiro:

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Joe Rogan actually did and he's a true and honest Nazi. Why? Because Bernie would be far-right in Revolutionary Catalonia, sweaty.

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This but unironically.

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Rightoids in Burlington

Many such cases. If I was a rightoid I would definitely live in a city where the progressive party have majority seats on the city council, no republicans, and democrats are considered the right wing party.

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Urbancels deserve less of a vote than ruralchads.

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You still in Alaska? Post polar bear.

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If he can post polar bear, that means he's already dead or in a coma in the hospital and someone else is using his account. :marseyxd:

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How does land cast votes?

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Do you not know how electoral maps work or

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Seems like the people on that land must be pretty important to have that much influence.

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No.

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Hmm I wonder where we get all our food

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Not from rural rightoids.

Also they are not even worth it anymore, the amount of damage they do to society is far greater than anything else they provide.

Find another way and cut rurals off.

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Maybe we should divide New York then?

Why should 6 million upstaters have any say in the policy decisions that impact the 14 million in NYC area?

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People always say this like it’s some sort of huge gotcha but if urbancels stopped funding US farmers and bought food abroad, there would be a 6 month price spike before rural farmers go out of business and some corpo buys the whole thing.

It would probably be cheaper in the long run too

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I'm pretty sue that's impossible, logistically and otherwise. Not enough ships, not enough surplus production in the rest of the world. You could stockpile I guess. But that'd take time and everyone will notice.

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But we won the cactus vote.

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Have you ever driven down that street in Albany with the cobblestone intersections? Or how about that ramp onto I-90 or something where if you miss a turn you have to take the ring road around entire city just to get back into the ramp? Or how about that left turn going into the tunnel under the government buildings with no signs whatsoever? Entire city was designed by literal r-slurs.

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Last time I was in Albany I walked in on two homeless people fricking in the bathroom at the Greyhound station

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Sorry that our meth frick was inconvenient to you, chud.

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No I was turned on, don't apologize

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Urban verse rural. Tale as old as time.

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