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A story about a trains child: Two interpretations

https://news.sky.com/story/i-dont-want-to-grow-facial-hair-transgender-girl-eight-has-sleepless-nights-about-growing-up-as-a-boy-12586845

In this we have a YouTuber who, over the course of his YouTube career seems to have pivoted away from shitposting into "more serious" videos about -- what else of course -- gender and mental health.

Now a big soybearded 40-year-old cishet white dude, he's taken the only road available to him and has declared himself non-binary and transed his son.

Seriously, read some of this horrifying shit:

Jonathan spoke of how Edie had told him of "sleepless nights" after seeing a video about puberty.

She [his male child] told him "I don't want to grow facial hair", and asked him: "I'm going to have babies when I grow up, right? I'm going to be a mummy?"

"As a parent, I don't know how to answer that question because it's really sad to see a child just questioning it all," Jonathan said.

I mean, I guess the answer is you just lie to your child and tell him, no sweaty, you can be a girl and have babies and titties and no beard and live life on easy mode just like mommy!

"And then you get cisgendered people who have no experience to say that's wrong."

Darn right I have no experience in confusing and grooming my son into believing he will be a mother one day. Can still tell a fricked up groomer-abuser when I see one though.

So that's my interpretation. I wonder what the :!marseytrain:s of /r/transgenderUK think of it?

Proof the media can post decent and positive stuff when they want to!

The bit where she says about wanting to be a β€˜mummy’ and have β€˜babies’ has broken meπŸ’”

The part about being a mother really broke me, I transitioned relatively young and the fact Ill never have my own children still is very raw.

As expected, it's all super wholesome. A few concerns about using the trans child to support their YouTube career, but no concerns about two trans identities just suddenly popping up and leading to YouTube success.

So once again we see how it never happens but when it does happy it's super wholesome, despite two trains above expressing the deep distress that sterilising themselves at a young age brought on.

This child needs therapy, but unfortunately trains are campaigning to ban it. Grooming your toddler into believing he's a girl because he doesn't want a beard is super wholesome. But trying to rollback that childhood dysfunction is heckin hate crime.

Every time I try to be less transphobic, trains somehow make me even more so.

Edit: found a very sensible and insightful take from a train forum. Apparently this guy is the exploitative influencer type I suspected:

https://old.reddit.com/r/honesttransgender/comments/u0po1r/i_am_extremely_worried_about_the_trans_child_in?sort=controversial

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I can't wait until the lawsuit train (lol) really picks up and these sterilized, groomed autists sue everyone under the sun for letting this happen to them

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The ones who trained out as adults all sign waivers so those cases go to file 13. The ones who were heckin cute and valid trans children may have better standing to sue their parents, but their parents will be poor because burgers all end up poor in their old age, so there's no deep pockets to go after. USA can't have ex post facto laws, so the parents transing their children can't be held responsible for criminal abuse after the fact. There's really no legal downsides to be had here.

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USA can't have ex post facto laws,

That's not really how civil court works. I am still not sure if there would be a good case unless there is ample evidence that it was heavily coerced. Especially if they willingly went through with transition aged 18+.

Also, burger boomers are rich as frick, what are you on about?

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No... ex post facto Law shall be passed.

It's not that complicated. Retroactive application of law is plainly unconstitutional. Surely you don't think they'd make some sort of rules to get around the plain text of their own constitution, do you?

Also: see @aqouta's comment for a link to prove exactly my point that burgers get poorer as they age.

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That's not really what my link shows. Total wealth only increases with age until ~65 when most have retired. Wealth decreasing in retirement is not really something unique to the burgers any more than age increasing with time spent alive. And while it's decreasing it's still well above the median/average of people younger than 50 who would be suing them.


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it's decreasing

thank you

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You don't understand U.S. law. Unless there is a law specifically protecting parents from lawsuits by their children for treating them as trans then you can make a legal argument in civil court that they are due for damages for child abuse or whatever.

Only in criminal court does a crime need a law specifically spelled out in order to convict them.

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So you're telling me yes, they ignore their own constitution

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most intelligent dramatard


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Why does every foreign frick think they know the ins and outs of America?

You know how impossible it would be to have a law for every specific thing you can sue a person for? The grandma who got her crotched burned off by McDonald's wouldn't be able to sue because there wasn't a specific law for being able to sue a restaurant for handing you a 500 degree coffee.

Civil court takes care of it. If lawmakers think civil court is wrong, then they can write a law that protects restaurants from lawsuits for pouring 500 degree liquids in grandma's crotch.

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So the lawmakers just rewrite laws based on feelings then?

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You can't rewrite what isn't written, but yeah, they can also rewrite whatever they want. They can even write an unconstitutional law if they want, but then the judges would strike it down.

The important thing though, is that you still don't understand the difference between criminal law and civil law.

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burgers all end up poor in their old age

What?

Honestly in unsure why you would even think that. It only starts to reverse late into retirement as they start eating the principal.


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Law students should start getting into parental negligence and medical misconduct involving children. Huge boom in the following decades

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I know I would if I were a lawyercel. I would love to see the looks on all of their groomer and/or munchie faces when the court awards my mutilated client all of their money

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And you collect your percentage :marseymerchant:

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I remember we learned about that in tort law!

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TERF Island doesn't really have this lawsuit culture. At best there will be a general inquest in the future and a bunch of people who retired 15 years earlier will apologise.

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Savile diddled kids for like 50 years with the BBC's full knowledge of it happening, have there even been any lawsuits from it?

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A compensation scheme was set up - https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2014/dec/16/jimmy-savile-appeal-court-compensation-scheme, but it looks like people only got about Β£10,000 including costs.

I'm not a lawyer so I don't know much about this stuff.

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We're not as litigious but lawsuits are still pretty common. I knew a guy who got hit by a bus on a bicycle, sued the council for Β£500k and won. Definitely could happen.

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tbf that bus shouldn't have been riding a bicycle

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t... there's gonna be a wave of lawsuits guys, you just wait!

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