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Trans men won't stay "tomboys" to satisfy you, r-slurs

Trans men live through the suffering caused by gender dysphoria because their biologically female body does not match what their brain expects it to be, and it causes distress. Then comes the rdramatard telling him to just be a tomboy, because the rdramatard finds tomboys hot, but not trans men. And I tell the rdramatard to finally stop thinking with your peepee and have some empathy.

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And I tell the rdramatard to finally stop thinking with your peepee and have some empathy.

:#marseydisagree:

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Those who can only think with their peepee are degens (for example AGPs and incels) , and I hate them.

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I hate them

Yet you keep blowing them in club bathrooms.

Curious.

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Stop spreading lies about me Serb.

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What's that white stuff on those tomboy lips?

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A Turk who is secretly gay…

Color me shocked

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I hate them.

have some empathy?

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Where is the full image?!?!?

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That is the full image

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You are the most committed gimmick account.

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I only do this because I know the vast majority of rdrama users are good people, it's just too easy for them to go with the crowd and become transphobic and i just want to save their soul.

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I know the vast majority of rdrama users are good people

:@quadnarcapat:

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Wait we can pat pfps?

:@aevannpat:

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:@freshdavidkoreshpat:

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Maybe there's a rainbow-pooping unicorn inside all of us :marseyhmm:

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transphobic

Why would i be afraid of a :marseytrain: ?

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Probably because you're down to eating salted dogfood and get hunger hallucinations already :marseylaugh:

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so soulfood?

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If anything, they fear me

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I know the vast majority of rdrama users are good people,

yer way late/way early for april fools.

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drama posters

souls

One and only one.

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and i just want to save their soul.

I thought you were an atheist.

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We’re just trying to save people from becoming manlets

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This would be true 5 years ago but majority "trans men" today don't have gender dysphoria, so yeah those types would be better as tomboys.

And not to serious post but as someone with heavy genital dysphoria (not trans tho) seeing those people treat this stuff like they're changing hair colors is annoying.

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heavy genital dysphoria

Elaboration?

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they want their genitals to be heavy, but they aren't and it makes them sad.

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Translation: peepeelet cope

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Yeah, this new woke culture thing ruined a lot of people. It's just I want people to be aware there are trans men who would be trans men even 20 years ago when it wasn't "trendy"

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Look we don't have war, pestilence or famine to cull people something had to take its place

And they do it to themselves it's very merciful a mitzvah really

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This is a Femboy plot to destroy their rivals Tomboys.

Frick off Narc!

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I'm fine with tomboys, since they are mostly cis women, I don't want them to be gone. I was only talking about those who are actually trans men.

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With enough time you'll be pregnant and thus forced to be female for 9 months :P

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:#marseyitsover:

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Gender essentialism is just a flat out r-slurred idea and a memetic hazard. Tomboys would be happier if they were never exposed to it and were permitted to live as masculine women rather than have their behaviors pathologized by insane people.


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Gender essentialism

what does this mean btw I saw this term a few times, but don't know what it means

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It's the belief that gender is an essential and immutable characteristic separate from s*x or other characteristics. Think the phrase "girl brain", the claim is that there is some 'essence' of girlness that a brain can have. It's importantly not directly a measurable phenomenon like nervous system exposure to estrogen or other physical phenomenon. think the "soul" which plenty of philosophical arguments have been made against. It's pretty much the foundation of the Self-id/dysphoria is not necessarily belief system that there is some kind of fundamental 'gender' imprinted on everyone that can only be accessed from the first person perspective.

I could go into the epistemic reasons this is nonsense if you care.


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:#marseyagree: :#marseyreading:

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The epistemics fail like this. Each of us is only endowed with access to one epistemic perspective. That is to say we cannot simultaneously know what it is like to be with or without a soul or both know what it is like to be a boy and what is it like to not be a boy. And because there is no physical expression then there is no way internal to differentiate between the qualia of "I believe I have a soul because I actually have a soul" and "I believe I have a soul but am wrong and deluded". This same principle applies to gender. There is no epistemic way to differentiate between the qualia of "I believe I am a boy trapped in a girl's body because I am a boy trapped in a girl's body" and "I believe I am a boy trapped in a girl's body because I am deluded about my circumstances". This basically cashes out to not being able to use claims of internal qualia as evidence when trying to determine some true fact about an individual because they can no more know it than we can as an observer. So we're limited to using observations of the physical world in making evaluations on this subject.

This can be squared but not in the way that mainstream Self-id trans activists or traditional feminists are willing to accept.


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there is no way internal to differentiate between the qualia of "I believe I have a soul because I actually have a soul" and "I believe I have a soul but am wrong and deluded".

Doesn't this hold for everything (we think) we know? There is always the possibility that a demon simulates our sensory inputs to mislead us. How are internal qualia different?

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That's a genuinely good question and a difficult one to answer. The concept we're trying to conserve is called empiricism which rules in what we can measure and verify collectively with our senses and rules out what we cannot. Solipsism as you describe is also possible but not very useful as it would leave us epistemicslly helpless so we pretty much need to carry on as if empiricism is true. If you're going to throw out empiricism the whole question is rather pointless as you're just arguing with yourself inside your own head.


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This can be squared but not in the way that mainstream Self-id trans activists or traditional feminists are willing to accept.

Sounds interesting, could you point me in the right direction to read about that?

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It's fairly simple, you just need to ground gender in something measurable. The two most popular schema are physical s*x and behavior. Both of which have some pretty undesirable tradeoffs for gender ideologues or traditional feminist and it's why "define women" is a potent memetic critique. It means the gender ideologue either needs to agree with the right winger that women are adult human females or say the quiet part of their disagreement with TERFs out loud and declare that women conform to a set of gendered behaviors which has all sorts of consequences.


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It means the gender ideologue either needs to agree with the right winger that women are adult human females or say the queit part of their disagreement with TERFs out loud and declare that women conform to a set of gendered behaviors which has all sorts of consequences.

They don't "need" to do anything. They already established that being a woman is something you think in your head, that it's something that cannot be observed, scientifically proven on individual basis, or has any barrier of entry.

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It's incoherent to believe someone can 'feel' a gender that has no basis in observable reality. For someone to feel one gender over another they are claiming to experience an epistemic phenomenon that is plainly not possible. One can feel as though they'd like to wear dresses rather than trousers and enbody all sorts of trapping more associated with womanhood than manhood but unless you're willing to define woman as those behaviors then it's incoherent to claim that those impulses make one a woman.

Do you see the twist there? There is no light in your head that shines blue when you close your eyes if you are a boy and pink if you are a girl. There is some other criteria in play.


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Wow, you must be a JP fan.

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I am going to keep yourself safe

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The tomboy shit just shows how infantilized and anime mind rotted most rightoids are. No girl identifies as tomboy past the age of 12 who isnt fat, mentally ill, and/or ugly. You need to get over the girl you had a crush on in middle school.

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I don't care about any of the MTF stuff cause it's just less competition, but the FTM stuff just makes me sad. Like I saw a gif of a woman cutting her hair off then shaving her head, and that made me sad too.

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He aged a good 10 years from the transition alone. Feels like that entire generation is ageing beyond its years.


:marseyvibing: The Democratic Party will collapse by 2030. :marseyvibing:

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Protect tomboy

Beat grooners

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Would this be considered a form of transmisogyny or should that term be exclusively used to describe the bigotry that transwomen/transfemmes face? Trying to educate myself here.

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I don't really know the correct terms I just know it's wrong that the rdramatard does

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You just need to date trans girl tomboys then fr

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:#marseynpc:

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Why does the Marsey NPC was whiskers when the cannon Marsey does not?

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Trans men live through the suffering caused by gender dysphoria because their biologically female body does not match what their brain expects it to be, and it causes distress.

just call it what it is. mental illness.

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I HATE ALL CISSIES!!! WHY CAN"T THEY SHUT UP!?!?!?!!!

:#marseyraging: :#marseyraging: :#marseyraging:

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Looks as miserable as ever.

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wow, i've never seen it that way but you're right. you'll have to excuse me now, i have some thinking to do

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Remember that if you care about "tomboys" unless they work in a graveyard you're a straggot and thus you don't belong here.

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Trans men live through the suffering caused by gender dysphoria

>implying you need to have dysphoria to be trans

Truescum OUT OUT OUT

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I thought a bunch of ftms were abused or traumatized and hence transed mistakenly a result. The dramatard might be a coomer but perhaps some pushback against transing is a good thing?

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Women are being sold self-rejection as self-acceptance and disfiguring their bodies as a result. They see gender stereotypes and can’t relate those too themselves, and think their bodies are wrong when its the stereotypes that are the culprit. A girl who likes trucks, cars, short hair and kitty are being invalidated and manipulated into cutting their boobs off.

TOMBOY RESPECTORS UNITE.

TRANS LIVES MATTER

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Please shut the frick up this is not a meme.

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Aren't you overdue for a roping session? Or are you the type to fake it for attention

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:#platyfuckyou:

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Tomboys have evolved

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shut up cute twink

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Post hog

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their biologically female body does not match what their brain expects it to be,

But Quad, the brain is part of the body. If they've got a biologically female body, they've got a biologically female brain. Please can you expand what you mean by this? Do you mean biologically or do you mean mentally?

I mean, you wouldn't have a biologicallly female body but a male ankle, for example, would you?

I think clarity is paramount on trans issues because they matter so much so looking forward to your clarification on these matters.

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Factcheck: This claim has been confirmed as correct by experts.

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Idk why y’all can’t just frick Tomboys, Femboys, and cute FtMs.

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The Nazis had empathy for the plight of the German people at the hands of capitalist Jews. So they did something about it. What are you gonna do?

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What do you call female agp?

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