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Even /r/roosterteeth users are getting sick of Roosterteeth

BACKGROUND

The last time I wrote about failing online media company Roosterteeth, it was because one of their new hires (Ky) had tweeted:

I’d like for think that we haven’t seen the golden age of @RoosterTeeth and @AchievementHunt yet. Cause let’s be honest… the golden age should AT LEAST be a time where more than five demographics are represented! I’m just sayin Woman tipping hand

She then caused more anger by playing the racism card again when people said that she was too loud in videos.

THE LATEST DRAMA

So what is Ky up to now? Achievement Hunter views are absolutely atrocious for a 3.7 million viewer channel, bearing in mind there are probably a couple of dozen people working full-time in this team:

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One of the few remaining series that old viewers still enjoy is Ya Dead, Ya Dead, in which six Achievement Hunters play Minecraft until only one player remains. In past iterations this would run for about seven episodes at an hour per episode, unedited.

For some reason (maybe in an attempt to get rid of the last remaining old-school fans), Ky appears to be in charge of the new series. She promptly announced that all the episodes would be heavily-edited to fit into a shorter runtime:

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How have the fans responded?

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Some choice comments from the /r/roosterteeth thread:

I think what I miss about old AH were the conversations. The content was a conduit for conversations to happen like how much fun they were having or their general attitudes towards each other. Old AH was like a group of friends making content now its co workers making content and it isnt the same.

Instead of a bunch of friends fricking around in games, it feels like people who took 1 improv class and tried to put on a show.

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AH: makes decisions that drives away long-term viewers, despite the feedback of paying subscribers. Also AH: "why would YouTube do this to us?"

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its frustrating to be a fan from 2013 and just see something i love so so so so much just fall apart

:#marseysad:

The subreddit has finally completely tipped and is now a place where almost no automod video post gets > 20 upvotes or comments. The only active threads are ones in which people air frustrations. There is no positivity anywhere. The last few RT defenders are slowly getting pushed out.

Anyone wanting more RT drama should look at "I love this Podcast, but 18 minutes of Ads is taling the piss. I dont care how funny they are an ad is an ad and I’m skipping that shit." in which some /r/roosterteeth users try to defend an hour-long podcast having 18 minutes of ads in the middle.

Trevor and his consequences have been a disaster for the RT fanbase.

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Idk what this stuff is but I really like your posts about it. Thank u for the writeups :marseythumbsup:


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lol redditors calling out redditors

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When someone asked for her audio to be normalised then she replied "loud is what we do" and RT even made a range of merch about it. https://rdrama.net/post/36466/loud-is-what-we-do-the

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lmao thats the WORST merch I have ever seen. How did they even OK that?

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There’s no such thing as good YT merch its only a way to support your favourite creator and give China a few bucks (which is important to me)

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Nah there are some that put effot into it that aren't entirely cringe. NerdCity is one. ElvisTheAlien had good ones too if I remember correctly.

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I read that thread from this thread and I liked it a LOT :marseylove:


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Softest spoken black person

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Extremely cringe.

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You're not an RT fan? Luckily for you the golden age is yet to come.

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All I know about them is they make some LGBT YouTube-anime called RWBY and the new season of like 10-minute episodes keeps getting delayed for like 2 years now because of covid somehow and sometimes I like to check in on that sub and watch them cope and seethe at anyone suggesting this is unreasonable

It’s never worth posting

Their suffering is just a fetish of mine


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I only know about Rooster Teeth because of Red vs Blue

:#marseyboomer:

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I knew about red versus blue and learned it's made by people called rooster teeth this morning

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Are they still making those? I remember the first episode of it being in my halo 3 collectors edition second disk


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They gave it to different people and made it terrible

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Over for Achievmenthuntercels.

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Rwby can be summed up in one image

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Yeah theres 327k coomers on /r/koreannsfw and like 276k gooks and self-hating mayos who wish they were gooks on /r/korea

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RWBY characters and Koreans are alike in that their appearances are both artificial.

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I like to check in on that sub and watch them cope and seethe at anyone suggesting this is unreasonable

CARP WILL YOU BE MY BEST FRIEND? WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON!

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Are you hot


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tbh not sure

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I’d give you at least a 5 😘


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Woah that's four more than my average score how does he do it

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thx bb :#marseyembrace::#marseymarseylove:

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You gotta be careful tho cuz like Joe Rogan, Opie and Anthony and Howard Stern, having fan forums just be constant bitching and pining for a glorious lost era could just be an indication that they are actually successful. Not in this case, but still.

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Oh I didn't know RWBY was still going after Monty Oum died

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Went from entertaining shit to just shit. Lost whatever soul it had.

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Darn you're telling me g*mers don't want to watch some uninteresting woke foid's boring butt "show"?

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Still losing 10k subscribers per month. It's a slow death spiral.

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Look at the views lmao. 3 years ago, mid 2019, they were around 11-12 mil views/month. The last 4 months they average like 2.5m :marseylaugh: So they lost between 75%-80% of their views in less than 3 years, Impressive.

Not an isolated case though, Boogie is roughly similar aged channel, almost the same number of overall views and videos produced, with much more subscribers, and he's also losing 10k subs a month and views are way down. It's so over for these old gaming channels. Let's not forget Jim Sterling either.

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https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/jimsterling

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Yahtzee is doing surprisingly ok and hes been on YouTube since 2007 or some wild shit like rhat

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Yahtzee is more or less the exact same dude he ever was (other than getting a wife and kids) and his content hasn't dropped in quality at all. Sterling's downfall has just been sad to watch.

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for real, sterling had some hilarious takes then he ate the wokie cake (and all the other cake as he is want to do) and now it's just pathetic and sad.

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Yahtzee is actually funny sometimes

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He stuck it out with Escapist and they're prolly paying YT

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Can't cuck the Escapist

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Darn, how does JS have less than a million subscribers?

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I remember reading that the youtube algorithm really punishes staleness; some channels I've been suscribed to for years I never see videos of.

It seems once these channels start collapsing they get in a death spiral.

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Seems accurate. Some people can still pull off episodic/formulaic videos but they generally have varied thumbnails, titles, tags etc. instead of "series name episode number" in both titles and thumbnail with exactly the same tags for every video.

The userbase has also just changed and people don't consoom from the sub box anymore, from what various people said often only 30-40% of people who watched a video are subscribed (even on normal videos that didn't pop off/go viral/trending), and even among those subscribers only about half or less click on the video from the subscriptions page, others come from sidebar recommendations or frontpage.

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I'm subscribed to around 100 channels in my 10 year old account and I only watch shit from my frontpage or sidebar, I stopped using the subscribe button years ago. The algorithm knows what I want.

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Yeah one of the channels I liked is got caught in the death spiral after moving to LA proper.

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Only the big channels, others can do the same niche content for 10ish years and randomly blow up one day when site demographics change (see Manlybadasshero)

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Jesus they get even less views than the main Yogscast channel and thats pretty sad.

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When you make yogscast look successful you know youre dead

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Oh no their Twitter is getting ZERO engagement. Looks like about an average of 300 likes per tweet, with 1 million followers :marseylaugh:

That's so much worse than having actual controversy

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I don’t care about any of this, but it’s interesting to see yet another piece of nerd culture completely destroyed. How the frick do they not learn their lesson? Why do they insist on destroying themselves every single time?

I think RedLetterMedia should be the model for nerd-targeted entertainment, which is funny because it’s pretty lazy when you think about it. They avoid serious topics like politics, they don’t feel the need to pander, and most of all, they’ve just been doing the same exact shit for ten years. They’re a bunch of guys hanging out and talking as friends, that’s it, and that’s all people want sometimes.

You don’t need to drag in fresh blood or try and tackle difficult topics. Literally just stop trying and keep doing what’s working.

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It’s always foids coming in that signal the end


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RLM removed all their foids early.

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I was watching the first couple of best of the worsts and they had a foid, but apparently the fans scared her off by being creepy

Nerds are the best

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Asocial, wierdo nerd communities are the natural immune response to corpos and unfunny regulars trying to stick their fingers in the cookie jar.

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The answer to the question is: nerds aren't actually smart.

As for oldies like RLM, completely skirting controversy is an incredible skill. Besides one hiccup AVGN has managed to pull off the same trick

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They failed if you consider when Mike got his dreams destroyed via Twitter beef with Will Schatner.

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The viewers of nerd channels are heavily neurodivergent and any change to the format makes them irrationally angry.

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The secret sauce is cynicism. If you maintain a contempt for the very idea of your channel you have basically immunized yourself against entryists.


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which is funny because it’s pretty lazy when you think about it

That's precisely how they maintain quality, lol. They stick three guys with mics in front of a camera and film them ripping into the entertainment industry for 30 minutes. They're also genuinely entertaining critics, which means that their source material will never run out.

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I don't even know if quality is there main concern, it feels like having fun takes the front seat most of the time.

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That's another way they maintain quality.

I didn't mean to imply it's some concerted strategy on their part. What I meant to say is that genuinely entertaining content is usually entertaining in and of itself, not necessarily because of a bunch of post-production, polishing, clipping, storyboarding, etc.

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Achievement Hunter views are absolutely atrocious for a 3.7 million viewer channel ....... For some reason (maybe in an attempt to get rid of the last remaining old-school fans), Ky appears to be in charge of the new series. She promptly announced that all the episodes would be heavily-edited to fit into a shorter runtime:

It's interesting to watch how Youtube's basically slowly done a 360. Back when the platform was new, most of it were random videos people uploaded that went viral. Then, people figured out a good way to turn Youtube into a sustainable income source is to get a fairly big regular viewerbase by making repetitive series that people enjoy. As Youtube became bigger and more saturated, I would argue we're almost back to the beginning. Most people don't really have the time or attention to regularly watch too many series by many different people, and are back to watching one off viral videos from their frontpage. Basically any long running channel which uploads regularly and is doing a formulaic format is seeing slow but steady decline.

From this POV, the new, shorter runtime style might be a good idea, but you're still only half committing - you're still making series for dedicated fans, but are also trying to satisfy the algo to try and get your video picked up in recommendations, and not doing either very well.

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they probably should have made a shorts channel. this would also mean you could 1. publish to reels, tiktok, yt shorts ect. and 2. double up on content for your dying channel.

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The first rule of show business is:

Left: be woke

Everyone else: be entertaining

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Can you link to a video where this blek foid is screaming? Also what a fall from grace for someone who made the Red vs Blue series.

also.. what happened here?

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Was RvB ever really funny though?

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I remember laughing when watching it when it first started. I forgot about it after a couple of episodes

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I only watched the first 2 seasons and dipped out when they started adding more women.

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lol, but remember this was in 2003 when internet wasn't really that accessible, and I think I gave up when downloading epiosodes over 256kbps connection ended up proving a pain in the butt. I always see memes from it and it was a hit considering it was unique at that time

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It was the best thing I ever saw in 8th grade.

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I found this video. She's not screaming, but she does sound sound actually r-slurred and the other hosts seem afraid of her lol. To be honest I don't know if that's her I just saw it was a black chick.

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i did some mini autism and I think they are talking about this, esp if you match the dates of the voice too loud post vs the youtube upload date

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Yes, Ah has had some representation, but when people typically mention “the golden age” the main cast is 6 white men and 1 Latinx man. Sure there’s a slight variation in age, but even then that does not include race, disability, sexuality, or gender.

So being a golden age has nothing to do with the quality and enjoyability of the content being put out. A golden age is your hiring practices.

Pointing out the older competition of the team is literally griping about 6 friends who knew each other already and made something together.

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Used to be a big fan of RT. To the point I actually went to the premier of lazer team (cringe I know, but that was the beginning of the end of being a fan for me to be honest)

Thanks for keeping me up to date on my reasons I don't care to go back. Honestly once Burnie left there was just no point anyway, but the downward trajectory began well before then

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This is usually a problem when the core members who built the group leave. Look at Funhaus another group close to Roosterteeth fell apart because core people left. Adam getting fired for being a coomer was the final nail in the coffin, channel is now dead asf if you check now.

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/r/funhaus doesn't allow any discussion of the past so it's just a bunch of weirdo zoomers.

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Funhaus fell apart really quickly in comparison. They lost Bruce, Lawrence, and Adam within what, a year? When I stopped watching I think the Willems had been backing off the content and Alannah took a long break. That's pretty much the original entire cast gone in the span of a year or two.

What Adam did was a bit fricked, though, iirc. Not from a woke perspective but from a normal "don't be an butthole" perspective.

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Ray's departure was the start of the end for AH.

Trevor and that other Latinx accelerated it and Ryan being outed a sexpest was the last nail on the coffin, not a single entertaining person on there anymore.

And Funhouse, how they massacred my boy...

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Trevor is like one of those guys you know at uni, and sometimes you sit next to them at lectures. They seem nice enough but you forget about them the minute you graduate and never think about them again.

He's not a personality and he's clearly doing a terrible job as manager. What's the point of him?

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Caboose! wtf are you doing over there??

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I liked Achievement Hunter as a kid. Their Minecraft videos were basically podcasts with gameplay; a bunch of friends shooting the shit together and cracking jokes. Then they tried to over corporatise absolutely everything and once they started losing members of the original team like Ray they fell into a long slow death spiral.

I don't understand how they managed to collapse so badly in an era when every zoomer and their dog seems obsessed with Minecraft and Internet "personalities" but I can't see them ever recovering from this.

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When i was fully neurodivergent, i used to love drunk tank/ early rt podcast because i was a friendless loser

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I preferred watching those guys play games to playing games myself, there's no shame in it.

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I still watched the podcast way after rooster teeth really started sucking because the core people, Geoff, Gus, Burnie, Geoff and Gavin were all genuinely entertaining to listen to.

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Drunktank n minecraft? yes please.

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failing online media company Roosterteeth,

I'm gonna stop you right there, son. Roosterteeth isn't failing, they're just highly irrelevant.

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This is why im glad Cow Chop decided to end rather than draw shit out after one of the two founders left

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They did try to draw it out though, until a year when by and the money ran out because the content got formulaic and stale.

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I honestly was fine with late cowchop shit, i liked Jakob and the leftover of the crew. They tried making it work but after James Alek realized shit wasn’t working so they decided to cut it off

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Yeah, the rest were alright. No Trevor hit me worse than most others. They just seemed to lose motivation. That goddarn skate ramp brought them down.:marseyskater:

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G*mergate and liberalism killed RT

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Yeh they lost their darn minds when Trump was elected and haven't seemed to make a good decision since then. Pro tip: I watched RT content for escapism, not to hear half-formed hot takes straight from /r/politics.

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RT was like a couple decent hangs during whenever halo 2 or 3 was out and since then I have no 8dea why people would continue watching.


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This was basically peak RT after RVB. This Jim Norton impersonation was probably their most entertaining asset.

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I used to be so into Rooster Teeth and all their offshoots, I even went to RTX in 2013, had a good time too. It's a shame what they've been putting out for the last few years.

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didn't the talented one get murdered by his girlfriend or something?

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I'd love to know who you're talking about but that's not anyone at RT.

Someone turned up at Gavin and Meg's house with a gun, broke in, couldn't find them (they were hiding in a cupboard) and then shot himself when the police came.

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they say it all happened in slow motion

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that was the RWBY animator

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No, that account's been reported several times. It is part of a group that co-ordinates to target specific moderators and users for harassment, and they rotate through sockpuppet accounts and throwaways in order to maintain activity under the admins' actionable threshold per time period.

They then sell that information about how to circumvent moderation, safety, and security to third parties in order to enable racially motivated violent extremism, ideologically motivated violent extremism, inauthentic engagement, etcetera.

The fact that they're in this thread is a way for them to mock /u/WorstNerd and the reddit security, safety, and anti-evil teams.

Reddit executives have been made aware of the existence of this group repeatedly for the past two years.

If you want to help motivate admins to take them seriously, report the comments instead of replying to them.

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