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In case you guys aren't following it: multiple trump doj officials have now accused Trump of directing an illegal plot to steal the 2020 election

Cherry on top: Trump and Co used a YouTube conspiracy video to illegally seize voting machines.

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Just pathetic. The fact this tard has not been arrested is fricking wild.

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I will say one thing about Orange Father, he is exceedingly good at breaking the law while maintaining plausible deniability. Rich/powerful people crimes almost always lack strict liability and it's incredibly difficult to prove mens rea.


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He has a strong history of r-sluration on his side, he'll walk 100%.

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For most of it, probably. The Georgia thing might get him a felony, but I doubt he'll get jail time. The thing that'll get him in the Georgia case is the fact that the law is written such a way that anyone that tries to influence an election official to enter an incorrect number, regardless of whether or not that number would change the results, is guilty of a felony. Trump himself on the call indicated that he believed the true number that he was down by was hundreds of thousands of votes and he just wanted them to find 11,000 votes. His problem there is according to his own mental state he actually had hundreds of thousands of more votes. So asking an election official to put in the 11,000 number violates that law. If he never ask for a specific number to be entered, and simply said "I want you to find all the missing votes" then he would have a defense.


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I don't intend to get into the weeds of what Trump did/didn't do. But let's look at this from an outside perspective for a second.

It is undeniable that most journ*lists, bureaucrats, federal agents, and elected politician dislike, if not hate, Trump.

He's been accused of dozens of crimes, and yet despite the entire US government and media wanting nothing more than to bring him down, you yourself admit that he has come out unscathed from it all. Every, single, time it went nowhere.

How am I supposed to believe that the most hated man by the american ruling class can get away with so much? The inevitable conclusion is that Trump's so called crimes are either overblown or completely made up.

This is why no one cares about the Jan 6 hearings, because we know you would be screeching about whether or not Trump had actually done anything wrong. Just like you screeched about Russiagate, twenty different misinterpretation of things he said in his speeches, or his every other tweet.

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>The inevitable conclusion

Is that powerful people are almost never held to account. Especially presidents. And while many powerful people hate him, many other powerful people support him. The elites are not a monolith and you're r-slurred if you think they are. Heck, Bill Bar protected him from the Mueller report. Even Robert Mueller himself said Trump could have been charged with Obstruction of Justice but the Barr Justice Department declined to press charges, citing the OLC memo saying presidents can't be charged with a crime. It's pretty easy to get away with criming when you can't even be charged with one.

But to my original point, the GA call is so flagrant and such an open and shut case, that it could actually get him a felony conviction. And Trump isn't President anymore so no more OLC memo protection.

PS, considering your last paragraph I really don't think that you're looking at it from an unbiased outside perspective.


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I'm not claiming to be unbiased, my whole point is that I don't believe you because people were wrong about trump being finished so many times before.

If I looked into every accusation against trump I saw online from an unbiased point of view I would have wasted literally months of my life researching. Starting taking you guys seriously now would border on insanity .

Edit: I guess this is the effect of propaganda there's so much bullshit information out there that finding the truth becomes not worth the effort.

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>I guess this is the effect of propaganda there's so much bullshit information out there that finding the truth becomes not worth the effort.

This is fair and I take your point about "this time he's finished". I'm not saying he's going to go to prison, but I do recommend you listen to the full call and then read the text of the GA election tampering law. Don't listen or believe me. See for yourself.


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>Maybe this time it'll go somewhere

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Reeee muh Georgia call Reee. Bitchass Stacy Abrahamโ€™s and her billionaire funded orgs were harvesting ballots by the tens of thousands, and you are trying to twist Drumps words on a call out of context.

There is a better chance of Drumpf btfoing Creepy Joe in 2024 than him even being charged for any crimes. Senile OLโ€™ Joe is not a challenge, and if coronavirus didnโ€™t happen heโ€™d still be known as politicsโ€™ biggest loser. Letโ€™s see if the msm can gin up a witch-hunt and mimic communist countries with its coverage like it did in 2020. Itโ€™s the Dems only chance

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:#soyjaktalking:

This might be the most seething comment in this post and that's saying something because pizza is here.


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Generally our convos are much more civil so I think something we can both agree on is that Bootygig vs DeathSantis would be a better matchup than the demantia daddies

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Omfg please.

Also, I miss Pete going on Fox News town halls and actually talking to rightoids about his positions.


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As a pretty partisan rightoid I was surprised that Bootygig proposed things like court packing, reparations, and embraced M4A and GND. He is a good talker tho and did do well in the most of the town halls I saw him in.

Ultimately the best politicians can be different things to different people. Moderates see a white guy acting like a statesman and ignoring most idpol. Progressives see a gay guy who pays lip service to their ideas. Neolibs see a Harvard grad and McKinsey technocrat. Buttigieg has a good shot but you donโ€™t get many opportunities in politics (unless the party clears the way like it did for Biden lmao). 2024/2028 or bust?

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Yes, God, please get everyone over the age of 70 the frick out of politics for at least a decade. Give us some breathing room from the gerentocracy. Old people stink permeates the Beltway.

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Sadly the younger generation is wholeheartedly embracing socialism and identity politics. That combo might be worse than the gerentocracy

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Trump himself on the call indicated that he believed the true number that he was down by was hundreds of thousands of votes and he just wanted them to find 11,000 votes. His problem there is according to his own mental state he actually had hundreds of thousands of more votes. So asking an election official to put in the 11,000 number violates that law

This is the most r-slurred thing I read today.

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Read the law and listen to the phone call and then you'll see that no u


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No, "I think that you're missing 100k votes but try to find at least 20k" is not a felony.

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You can believe whatever you want to believe but you're wrong.


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And you're worse than wrong, you are r-slurred.

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Teflon Don

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:#chadseethecapy:

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we should be seething. because patriotism demands better than this fricking boomer.

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Lol nerd patriotism is fake and straight

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:#chadcopecapy:

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:#capygitcommit:

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:#chadokcapy:

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patriotism

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Yes nothing says patriotism like backroom ballot counting.


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Crazy how no one was smart enough to tell you that this would go nowhere

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"This will go nowhere" is already RDrama canon. It's not something that needs to be stated directly, anymore.

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Surely, this time, trump has been cornered, back up against the wall


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Honestly you should be arrested. There is a 100% chance youโ€™re a male feminist

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Arresting politicians even when they are are shit heads is a really bad look. Nixon wascv immediately pardoned.


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And that's why we got to where we are.

Trump has to be held accountable.

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Trump is an old r-slur that will naturally die sooner than later, I don't give a shit if he's held accountable but you absolute r-slurs are going to give the pubs 60 votes and let them really frick things up. Can you just for one election cycle not shit yourselves to death on bullshit? If there is any merit to this action it's an attempt to distract from the shit show of the economy and it didn't work.


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The country's going to deteriorate regardless of what the exact makeup of congress is so who really cares at this point? May as well enjoy some good drama :marseyshrug:

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Reeee muh Georgia call Reee. Bitchass Stacy Abrahamโ€™s and her billionaire funded orgs were harvesting ballots by the tens of thousands, and you are trying to twist Drumps words on a call out of context.

There is a better chance of Drumpf btfoing Creepy Joe in 2024 than him even being charged for any crimes. Senile OLโ€™ Joe is not a challenge, and if coronavirus didnโ€™t happen heโ€™d still be known as politicsโ€™ biggest loser. Letโ€™s see if the msm can gin up a witch-hunt and mimic communist countries with its coverage like it did in 2020. Itโ€™s the Dems only chance

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and that was a mistake.

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Not only is it ratcheting through a norm but it also has a 100% chance of making him a martyr, giving the pubs a W in 2024 and him getting pardoned anyways. Read the room, voters don't give a shit about Jan 6th, they care about how their quality of life per dollar just got crushed. It's like the Dems don't want to win


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This is not about jan 6. It's about his actions leading up to jan 6.

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People also don't care about Trump's bloviations.


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You know why he hasn't been. Because that starts shit that can't be finished by your limp peepeeed kitty committee. They are scared.

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