Since Rachel Dolezal is trending, I'm going to stir the pot and ask (not as snark, but as a genuine article of discussion) how and why her decision to present and live as a black person differs from a man's decision to present and live as a woman.

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This is why I dont trust short people. Always scurrying about, avoiding people's gazes. They are literally hiding right under our noses. What are they doing down there anyway? No doubt they are stealing things from our pockets, but what other crimes are they committing? Kidnappings? Murders? Treason? What are they plotting?

Snapshots:

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arguments about the Valids

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Lot of truscums in the replies :marseydisagree:

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Race is absolutely socially constructed. As is gender. That doesn’t mean you choose either. You are who you are.

So Rachel is black. Like if it’s socially constructed you cant make a coherent argument of any kind of blackness beyond β€œwell she aint black”

I bet this b-word identifies as black despite being paler than Rachel

Mixed race people are mixed race people who identify with whatever they identify with.

Literally incoherent schizoposting. Doesnt Rachel like try to claim she has mixed race genes? So if a pale person is mixed race suddenly youre okay with it? She tries to argue against Rachel by supporting her

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Another related question would be what if someone thinks they're mixed race but actually aren't? If they identify as black based on this false belief, are they actually black or not?

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Or the reverse, like how Mike trico thinks he is full Italian when he obviously is part black

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Plus how can you know if someones mixed race? Anyone could have black ancestry we dont know about

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There's really no logical argument as to why one is valid and not the other if both race and gender are cultural constructs other than black people are the holy cows of the left.

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Ironically the actual argument (that the human brain has very specific wiring for each gender, and it's entirely possible for it to get fricked up) requires admitting gender is a biological binary and not a social spectrum. But the woke talking points treat it the same as race, which mostly does fit that second definition. Like they're trying to be as logically inconsistent as possible.

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Ive always tried to put into words this exact thought and you did that pretty well so thanks for that

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Because there is no internal independent experience of race.

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You should tell black people that

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I would if I had any.

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It's actually hilarious how obviously and badly the TRAs don't have any arguments. They're all screeching "ITS JUST DIFFERENT OKAY? HOW DARE YOU ASK DANGEROUS QUESTIONS!"

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Both identities are socially constructed

How can everything be a social construct? I mean Black skin and XX genes are biological realities - is she talking about personal roles and relationships? I can agree that those could be considered as social constructs but I can't accept that everything is just willed into existence or not because of human perception and expectations that's just solipsism and is r-slurred.


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Im actually more willing to believe race is a social construct than gender. A black man and a white man are more biologically similar to eachother than two blacks or two whites compared to eachother. Man and woman have different body types

However lets be honest as much as black wokies say β€œrace is a social construct” they will still turn around and try to platform race realism when it promotes the idea of blacks being superior. They never talk about indian excellence, indian boy magic, asian is beautiful or latinx lives matter (stop asian hate has some token support but lets be honest black wokies dont support it with nearly as much fervor and only ever when it can be blamed on a white person). Because ultimately blacks as much as they deny it are just like white americans. Racist, lazy, middlebrow buttholes

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It's all just word games. The category of black is socially constructed with arbitrary rules like one black ancestor and 15 white ancestors makes you black instead of white. But ethnicity itself is not socially constructed.


:#marseytwerking:

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>Sorry, I forgot to askβ€”what relevant doctorate do you have that qualifies you to ask nonsense questions that ignore decades of settled scientific understanding?

We found him, the real life soyjak

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James Lindsay explained this by pointing out the different motives between the proponents of critical race theory and queer theory in academia. The CRT grifters wanted to benefit from affirmative action, so it was important that they jealously guard their status as black and exclude anyone who might try to take their piece of the pie. The queer theory crowd wanted to have their sexual behavior normalized, so they wanted to be as inclusive as possible, bringing in many people to get strength in numbers.

I dunno if I fully buy it, but it's worth thinking about.

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her decision to present and live as a black person differs from a man's decision to present and live as a woman.

:marseyraging:

a man's decision

*AN AMAB WOMAN'S DECISION

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It’s a social construct :marseyshrug:

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In all seriousness.... what are wiggers, then, in this whole.... r-slurred conversation......

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That's easy! There is no difference - she's black like a man in a dress is a woman, and both are examples of fetishes or mental illness at work.

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