https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1561781022051766277
The Associated Press issued a new update to their style guide Monday focused on how best to use the pronoun "she" in various contexts.
Apparently we're not supposed to use the "she" pronoun when discussing "nations, ships, storms, or voice assistants," The AP Stylebook's official Twitter shared in an update on Monday. Who knew we'd been misgendering random, genderless objects that don't procreate for so long? Shame on us.
Jokes aside, there are certain elements of AP's update that may not sit well with those who use the term "she" to refer to ships. Describing ships as "she" is a tradition as old as time itself.
The tradition reportedly stems from the idea that one's ship is a "female figure such as a mother or goddess guiding and protecting a ship and crew," according to Imperial War Museums. One of the few examples of ships being gendered as "he," came from Captain Ernst Lindemann of the Bismark battleship, which he did in "view of its awesome power," the museum site noted.
It feels like referring to ships as "she," is less of a decision that AP gets to make, and more of a personal choice. Similarly, referring to a nation as "she" is apparently a callback to our "motherland" and hasn't really been used widely for decades, The Hill noted.
As for storms, naming them after women seems to have originated from an Australian meteorologist, Clement Wragge, who used to entertain himself by choosing names of women, mythical figures, and politicians he didn't like, Britannica reported. Who can blame, Wragge? He started doing this in the 1890s, so it's not like there was much else to do to kill time. (RELATED: Death Valley National Park Experiences Rare, Massive Flooding)
Amazingly fun fact: in the 1970s, feminists fought to have the tradition of naming storms changed to include male names. The move was met with resistance because apparently people "would not take storms seriously if names did not evoke images of female fury," The Washington Post reported. Call me crazy, but that made me feel pretty powerful. Can we have a Storm Kay, please?
By 1978, we started using a range of different methods to name storms that use both male and female proper nouns for people, The Washington Post added. In terms of misgendering voice assistants, The AP can blame Apple and Amazon for creating "Siri" and "Alexa."
Of course, none of this is relevant to how you write about nations, ships, storms, or voice assistants. I just really love writing about weather, history, and naming conventions, I guess.
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How about we start naming storms after female (male) names? Like Ruby, Saphire, Afrodite or Rose?
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Jokes write themselves
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We do but studies showed less people evacuate if a major hurricane was named after a woman because it didn't scare them (not even joking btw)
And yet we still do it anyway even though the science shows it is dangerous. Another case of not following the science when it offends people
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I'm going to live to see them start naming Hurricanes after anime girls, aren't I
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Hurricane Misato "Mommy" Katsuragi
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You’re going to see five Asuka Langleys before you ever see her.
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So just start naming storms after your high school crush
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This is too ethnically mayo. Racist.
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I beg your pardon?
Ill have you know Im from the balkans and I have the pass
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What if the boat is an anime girl tho?
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Well this just took a whole different meaning now
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I usually just say “hey Siri, you fricking b-word”
Is that good enough AP?
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It's curious how often the implementation of gender ideology erases women. Hm.
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Who's lamer, them for caring or you for caring?
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Yes.
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It'll make me trip up anytime I'll read one of their texts and make me think for a few seconds. This is deeply boomerphobic.
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Hol up you may be entitled to compensation, did you know you have rights? The US constitution says so.
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Both are just lame moids with autism.
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Nah more upvotes means I'm right
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This is disrespectful to naval tradition.
boats are cute girls
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Good, ships are “he” and always have been.
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So he has a bunch of on top of him having a 24/7 orgy? Based.
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and then Hurricane Kathrina, she kill-
it killed thousands of people!
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https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1402786111
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But what about muh Corvette? sip Yup, the ol' girl's been good to me over the years. Just go 'er waxed!
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Imagine being a nerd but then caring about this of all things. Even g*mers are more interesting compared to that.
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I say we stop calling women "she." It's very demeaning.
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oh gods of goombling, is this opinion based??
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Why does anyone that isn't writing articles for the AP give a single frick about what the AP Stylebook says
That said using "she" for nations is cringe as frick and immediately outs you as a VGH larper
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Absolute sacrilege of erasing tradition now one asked for. Frick these people. No way it will catch on
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calling ships "it" is misgendering
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Her name is Alexa, frick off AP, you also think White shouldn't be capitalized but Black is
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I thought in english countries didn't have genders already
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Using “she” for boats is a holdover from when English did have grammatical gender.
Although I can’t find a citation for this anymore.
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Here's your citation
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These movies rip in 4k
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Can someone make the opposite? Like a list of non woke terminology so we can keen track if this stuff?
I saw a radical feminist came up with a style guide of offensive masculine terminology dos and don’t s . That would be good to reference
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Did you right this yourself or just copied an article? Because this sounds suspiciously like that of a journo, particularly linking that cute twink Hill article.
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copied of course, counterfeiting is in our blood
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If you read warshipporn, you get a real education about naming of actual ships. Some are "he" some are "her" depending upon the culture and language.
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