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South Korean foid on reddit account gets tired of discussions about why Korean women aren't marrying and having kids, and points out that its not the economy, or just the men, or lack of interest in having children. It is and has always been the experience of living with shitty Mother-In-Laws.
Favorite parts from the post itself:
blindingly obvious result of a society that treats marriage and childbirth like a lifelong prison sentence.
In Korea marriage is a prison.
Because that's what marriage is in this country: a goddarn horror show starring an overgrown, screeching 아줌마 MIL who thinks she owns your soul.
Korean Mother In Laws are Satan.
They are rejecting being a lifelong slave to some parasitic, emotionally deranged mother-in-law whose entire existence revolves around making sure you're just as miserable as she is
Korean mother-in-laws are emotionally deranged parasites.
Korean men are completely, utterly useless when it comes to MIL problems. They have zero backbone, zero awareness, and zero desire to actually protect their wives from their mothers' insane psychological warfare. Why? Because mommy's been wiping their butt for them since birth, and they don't know how to function without her approval.
Korean men are mommy's boys and have zero concept of making their own decisions or standing up for their own wives.
Oh, she's screaming at you? "Just endure it, babe." She's demanding money? "Well, we have to take care of our elders!" She's taking control of your child like it's her personal accessory? "That's just how it is."
Korean foids have figured out why they are in the first world but yet somehow their husbands still don't have any money and it isn't because the corporations don't pay. It is mother-in-laws.
women today have the financial independence to say, "Frick this, I'm out."
The only thing that made women put up with marriage values of previous generations was that they had zero other options.
Even the women who do want marriage and kids? They've cracked the code. That's why the number one green flag in Korean dating is a man with a dead mother. Because that's the only way you can guarantee you won't spend the rest of your life being emotionally waterboarded by an 아줌마 whose only hobby is torturing her daughter-in-law.
Based escaped the matrix enjoyers. Dead parents = no mother in law = good marriage.
Because money can't buy back your freedom once you've shackled yourself to an overgrown, screeching, boundary-less parasite who will spend the rest of her life micromanaging, criticizing, and controlling you.
Money isn't going to solve the problem of having to put up with foid nonsense. Even Korean foids know this.
Oh, and don't even get me started on how 아줌마s have single-handedly turned child-rearing into the most miserable rat race on earth.
Raise children to be independent? Raise children to have a good life? Raise children to take care of parents one day? Haha no. Raise children so that grandmother can show off how successful her grandchild is to other grandmothers? Yes. That is the purpose of life as per Mother-In-Laws.
So some wrinkled goblin in a Burberry sun visor can brag about her grandson getting into Sky Castle? So she can feel superior to her neighbor in the elevator? This entire country is so pathologically obsessed with social competition that even children are just pawns in the great 아줌마 hierarchy.
Korrean mother-in-laws have taken over all of South Korean society. If Russia is the society run by oligarchs, and US is the society run by capitalists, then South Korea is the end result of a society run by Mother-In-Laws.
What exactly are you bringing to the table? A shitty paycheck that's already stretched thin because you're still secretly giving mommy money? A personality so emotionally underdeveloped that you shut down completely if your wife speaks to you in anything other than a bubbly, coddling aegyo tone? A backbone so nonexistent that you'd rather watch your wife suffer than risk hurting mommy's feelings?
Korean woman takes a break from dunking on mother-in-laws to dunk on Korean Moids. Korean moids are spineless worms who cannot handle their wives using a normal voice.
The only reason Korean men aren't completely extinct yet is because a bunch of clueless foreign women are still flocking to Korea, hypnotized by K-dramas and delusional fantasies of finding their dream K-oppa.
But don't get too comfortable, oppa. Word is getting out.
And when that foreign supply dries up?
Good luck explaining to your mother why her bloodline ends with you.
Perfect ending to a long post of dunking on Mother-In-Laws. Even the dunking on Moids is wrapped up to finally dunk on the Mother-In-Law one last time.
Post score: 10/10. We dramanauts could learn from the foid who wrote this post.
My personal opinion:
90% chance she is right about Mother-In-Laws being overbearing in Asian society. 90% chance she is right about South Korean moids being spineless around their mother-in-laws. There are just three steps remaining for her to take the blackpill:
1) Admit that in the first world today women are women's worst enemy and they need to figure out how to avoid/ fix/ destroy the women ruining society instead of blaming all the men for it.
2) Admit that South Korean men are so weak because women took over taking care of the household completely, and that boys need men with some authority at home even above their mother's and father's in their own house that the child can learn from and develop a concept of "my woman' for "me to protect" and "lead", because that is what the foid is asking for indirectly. You cannot force the moid out of the house 24/7 to pay the bills then demand he have some mastery of the household business.
3) All South Korean Mother-In-Laws were once South Korean women who hated their own Mother-In-Laws. Which means that to stop the Mother-In-Law menace in the future this foid needs to self reflect and realize that there are flaws with her as a woman and that she needs to fix those flaws to ensure she doesn't end up as a shitty mother-in-law in the future, but in the post itself she never reaches that far and never makes a single observation about how South Korean women might be shit in ways that create a shitty experience for other women who end up under their guidance. In all her criticisms there was zero self reflection, only the comprehension of the misery she personally suffers without any understanding of how young Korean women get that way as they age.
Conclusion:
Good high quality post with foid dunking on a foid's oldest and greatest enemy. Mother-In-Laws. We could learn from this. Also a good post about the value of individual households and why humanity ended up moving towards the nuclear family as the default in the first world and why all three generation developed society households appear to do far worse in terms of fertility rates.
10/10 post we need more write ups like this in the world.
!writecel high quality post you can use to study and learn how to write an engaging post from.
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While I'm inclined to believe everything I hear about asian parents, I also don't trust any asian foid who comments on cultural issues in English
If they've been westernized to that point, they usually don't represent their actual culture in any capacity anymore and have way less tolerance than the more authentic members of their generations
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Wow, you think someone would do that? Smurf as a member of a very ingrained culture and LOUDLY call out how PROBLEMATIC it is using nothing but projection and exaggeration to try and dismantle that ingrained culture?
Who would do such a thing? Im really glad there arent any groups known for funding and doing exactly that.
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in a sense yeah. Or at least to the point where you've lost the ability to act as a representative of that group
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If she was wrong South Korea wouldn't have the lowest fertility rates in the world.
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South Korea has the lowest fertility rates because Korean men and women are wildly insufferable which is why Korea has fended off China for milennia. Because we send insufferable women to the Chinese Emperors and they go "jesus christ these whores are insufferable. No man should have to endure these shrill harpies" and ignore what's going on in Korea because they don't want none of that.
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We should make a rdrama history channel called based history or dramatic history and you should write the scripts.
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Korea is the peninsula of "Why the frick are there explosives and castles on this fricking mountain in the 9th century? What do you mean every mountain is multi-layered mountain fort with explosives? Why the frick are the mosquitos the size of small birds? Why the frick is winter so fricking cold? Why are the women such shrill b-words? Man frick this place. Turn around, we're going back home"
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What?
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In summer our mosquitoes are big as frick for no reason
Its scawwy
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South Korea has the lowest fertility rate in the world because I've destroyed the uterus of every gook woman there with my Peepee (capitalized).
If I were wrong South Korea wouldn't have the lowest fertility rates in the world.
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Her randomly using Korean screams ABK.
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Just don't listen to any Asian woman complaining about Asian culture.
They are just seething that Asian culture wasn't popular when they were growing up.
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It's all cope just like cost of living or climate change are as to why millennials/gen z aren't having kids. Millennials/Gen Z are overly self interested and can't fathom living for someone else. It's as simple as that.
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Women are incapable of handling problems caused by other women because no woman will accept changing her desires or actions. A non-Korean equivalent is young western woman will frick around with older men they like, while older women will screech and whine that older men shouldn't be allowed to frick young women. Then they grow up and become that older woman, and start the same screeching. They will never change, they will never reflect, and they'll attack if you ever suggest that a problem is ever women's fault. It's always just "a man needs to come fix this!" followed by "how dare you try to fix this!"
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Remember that woman who built a women only company and how long that lasted.
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Always is
Always has been
Always will be
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It's kinda cute that this broad thinks only Koreans have to deal with shitty MILs.
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Why is it that women are incapable of realizing that some day they will be the wrinkled goblin? Is it a psychological thing where they just don't want to admit it, or are they so deluded that they think they'll be the first generation of MILs to not be a massive pain in the butt?
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Korea has lowest fertility rate so I presume their Mother In Laws are simply worse than other nations.
As I said in post, South Korean women have to take the blackpill that for life to get better for foids they have no choice but to give up control of their household and hold less power over the household than their mother's generation did. They have to give up women specific privileges reserved for older women when they get older.
Foids cannot handle that they aren't some special victim class that has not existed a generation ago and won't exist one generation later, but instead that they have to decide what they will keep from their mother's generation and what they must give up for better things to emerge.
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I asked an older Korean woman once why she thought Koreans were having a hard time getting married, and she said Korean men are too enmeshed with their moms and their moms are too overbearing. I didn't expect that answer at the time but it tracks
Also shit like this is a real draw back of multi gen households, I'm tired of redditors acting like multi gen living is so great
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that's not actually a multi-gen household problem, as they aren't actually living together in a consistent community of a multi-generational manner u dork. it's not just about the family, but about the community that was built up around and between those families.
it's actually a horrorshow of korean culture projected into peak capitalism
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If multi-gen living was so great then more people would be joining it not leaving it. No matter how much people complain at the end of the results speak for themselves. Multi-gen civilizations are dying faster and harder than nuclear family sized ones.
It is the same reason by which I argue that Africa is the future of humanity because it is the only place that reproduces successfully.
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Thats r-slurred because its only the way it is because they need children to survive in africa. Plus more of your children die, so you have to have more so some survive.
If africa ever becomes first world, birth rates will slow down there too. Its just how it is, if people (and society) get richer they will have less kids.
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...So Africa is the future of the world.
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How did you get that from my comment lol
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Because Africa will never become first world. They are young enough to avoid the mistakes of the old.
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Then they definitly wont become the future of humanity either
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Wrong. A middle income nation is middle income only in relation to developed nations of the world today. On their own, they are also consistently growing year on year every single year. So Africa will never become developed like the old ones who fricked up but will instead go at a pace where people keep having kids.
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Same fricking foids will hand over theirs kid to their mils to raise them.
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Give it 30 years. There will be a lightbulb moment where foids realize that the only thing left causing them misery is other women.
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My grandparents all really loved taking care of us temporarily. I'm still sad my grandma wasn't able to run in the woods together with me but she tried
I think women in pension want to take care of something, and as long as they have less than 2 cats/dogs, that something can be a human
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Yes, and a lot of 6 year old girls with barbies want to be mothers. Doesn't mean its a good idea to give them children to raise.
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How do you manage to compare grandmothers with 6 year olds
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Mentally both are in the same space.
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Based screed, in that it's both largely true but also utterly deranged.
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I broke my mother into accepting basically any foid that isn't a Hoodrat or fat.
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Women will literally blame everyone but themselves for not being married post wall
Even a woman they don't even know exists yet
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They haven't met the MIL but she's why they're not married. Did you read your post?
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She explains in the post that she knows because she already saw how her own mother was treated by her mother-in-law.
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Sample size of 1
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Wow. I will now let the South Koreans know that their fertility rate isn't actually collapsing because the sample size of 1 was incorrect.
Radiation burns do not exist until you have got a sample size of 100,000.
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you keep saying this but it's obviously not the claim being made. even in the post the foid says that there other possible causes like the economy or whatever lmao. can you prove to us (r-slurs who know nothing about lesser korea) that older women and spineless young men are the sole cause of this?
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No she says it is not the economy.
Most countries have all the other problems mentioned for South Korea. Most other countries do not have older women as insufferable as in South Korea. Checkmate Atheists.
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what about places like
land where
s are also stereotypically overbearing and men are whipped/pathetic (go on /r/asianparentstories if you are ever in need of lolcow material)
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mmmm. sounds like an opportunity for white boys to step in, eh?
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In the comments one moid has a Korean GF and he is the one complaining about the Mother-In-Law.
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Conflict between married women and their mother-in-laws is a tale as old as time.
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So they were right. Women really need to have zero rights and be totally dependent on men to have above replacement birthrate.
Giving them more money doesn't work, giving them free jobs, free education etc, doesn't work either. In fact, it does the opposite, now that women have more money, they see men as useless parasites and have even less reason to marry
Welfare also means they aren't dependent on husbands even if they earn 0 money, and they can't go homeless either because free housing for mothers. So government replaces the role of a husband/family
So welfare+feminism= super low birth rates while 30% of men become incels and mass migration is required or the GPD goes down, which no politician will allow as they're all owned by corporations and rich people
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Nah you are on the right track but you missed. The government made the mistake of only half replacing the husband/father. What the government needs to do is a full embrace and say,"We are breaking up because I only married you to have kids." and start providing only for the women who have kids. That's the real final solution.
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I mean that's basically what's happening now and it just created a single mother epidemic and the birth rates are still low
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So the government won.
The government does the same thing again but this time only provides if you have 2 or more kids. Hungary is doing that. I suppose we will find out if it works from observing Hungary.
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How to prevent the terrible MIL cycle? Don't be a terrible MIL yourself.
Asian people can figure differentials in 3 seconds but can't figure THIS?!
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My Korean MIL is actually super nice to me but I think (1) I think it's because I'm a guy (2) I don't speak Korean (3) I check all the boxes of an ideal trophy husband for her daughter. She is a total nightmare b-word to her gay son for being gay tho lol
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yeah that. Based and happy for you bro.
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I know basically nothing about korea but to me this read like 'yeah women are the problem, but its mens fault'.
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No it was more like women are the problem, women who are older than me.
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Lol. Lmao even.
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I believe it. Hearing how women used to be practically a maid in more traditional households, it is no wonder that Asian girls don't want to marry in Asian families if they were given the choice.
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They used to be maids in western ones too but the west got ahead of it.
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JFC, the whiny misogynistic incels in this thread.... My sister gets along great with her MIL, because she married into a family where the people respect each other.
rDrama is almost as bad as Reddit for assuming that other people can't live normal, functional, and generally happy lives.
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You are right. All mother-in-laws are amazing. Statistics are bullshit and fake and straight in the face of your lived experience. We should change nothing in South Korea because you got things to work out for you personally.
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I can sense you're being sarcastic, because I'm not Asian.
In any case, I hope you get a trans MIL someday.
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On the one hand trans MIL
On the other hand, you know Xir is a degenerate, so she will 100% cover for you when you cheat on your wife as long as you use xir correct pronouns.
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Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Living_in_Korea/comments/1iymyu8/koreas_birth_rate_crisis_the_real_problem_is_that/:
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