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Bard spotting on Bluesky 11 December 2024 
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Yoel Roth (@yoyoel.com):
One of the things we all really need from platform T&S teams — honest, authentic, human conversations about the impossible tradeoffs involved in this work — is made effectively impossible by the deranged ways a small number of people treat platform staff when they speak publicly. Ask me how I know.
Lea Kissner (@leak.bsky.social):
The ratio of the amount of harassment and stalking that the CISO gets vs the head of T&S is bonkers.
(This is not an appeal to the monkey's paw)
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) (@lizthegrey.com):
the stories Yonatan and I have lol
saudades (@saudades.bsky.social):
i know yoel left after elon bought twitter, very publicly, but until then he allowed the worst dogshit in the world to bubble up there, including libsoftiktok (responsible for shooting/hate crimes) and so on. why should we trust him now?
Lea Kissner (@leak.bsky.social):
If you think that Yoel was singly responsible for making Twitter's T&S policy decisions, then I fear you are mistaken.
Bsky's Jolliest Girl 🎄🤶🎁 (@stalinatrix.kawaii.social):
honest question, and bearing in mind i have no idea who yoel is or what role he played at twitter at any point in time: assuming he was the head of t&s during pre-elon twitter, is part of his job not fielding these sorts of complaints in a responsible manner? cuz aaron doesn't seem to be doing that
Bsky's Jolliest Girl 🎄🤶🎁 (@stalinatrix.kawaii.social):
I mean yeah people can be deranged, especially to someone in that job. I don't doubt that. but is that what's happening here? it seems like an inability of bsky as a company (and aaron being in the relevant role here) to adequately address users' concerns at all
like, literally not one comment
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) (@lizthegrey.com):
Typically, no, a T&S lead does not discuss individual moderation decisions (e.g. why someone's friend was banned, why no action was taken on a specific report).
Obviously for a higher profile case, you'd expect potentially some messaging, but it wouldn't necessarily come from T&S (think: CEO/COO)
Bsky's Jolliest Girl 🎄🤶🎁 (@stalinatrix.kawaii.social):
then who would you say is the face on the company that we ordinary people can interact with on here? because it's not the CEO. believe me, I wanna be effective about this, not busy angrily yell into the void, but that seems like all we can really do right now. you can see that right?
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) (@lizthegrey.com):
The buck stops with Jay, and I'm not sure that harassing^H^H^H^H^Hloudly yelling at Aaron is actually helping at this moment in time. Fundamentally Jay needs to see this will cost the company and network more to keep JS than to ditch him.
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) (@lizthegrey.com):
so this is probably one of the most effective things, besides pointing out the numerous violations of policy that JS has actually done on-platform.
bsky.app/profile/bord...
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And it will only be effective in shaping policy if one of these are met:
1) it grows to a significant slice of the core users (likely to buy in to such)
2) it makes the news
3) the core users close out their infrastructure (blocklists) & accounts
Bsky's Jolliest Girl 🎄🤶🎁 (@stalinatrix.kawaii.social):
I think fundamentally popular movements are going to fail the trans community rn. we're being abandoned by our allies bc we become a liability politically and we're too small to make that much of a difference. you're simply not going to get most of those things
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
1) is possibly less likely, because there will be / are slush funds who will straw purchase premium, if policy is shaped by the dollarvote;
2) is not foreseeable because there's no question of misfeasance via a lacking AUP; they have "standard" AUP policies
3) remains, but is herding cats
borderless (@borderless.bsky.social):
I mean, 2 & 3 are already happening. A blogger reached out to quote me, and popular bsky cowtools have gone into maintenance mode + a few large amounts have left for mastadon.
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