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Bard spotting on Bluesky 11 January 2025 
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Now playing: Aquatic Ambience (DKC).mp3
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
If what was on offer was really Artificial Intelligence — with the capability to reason & grow — I would be interested in it. I dreamt of creating a computer sentience, before I grasped the immense magnitude of such a thing.
But these AIs aren't. They're silly putty impressions of writing & grafx
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I can't bounce an idea I have off them and have them work through it with me - they can only regurgitate and, in a limited way mash together, things other people already expressed. There is no real ability to evaluate whether the synthesis is appropriate, only … common
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The only reason they appear to reason is because our own reasoning is impressed into the artifacts of which they are making n-dimensional castings. They are often wrong because they do not know he difference between irony and sincerity, a joke and a knowledgeable fact.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And in the end I no longer want a sentient machine. I just want a society of humans who value the thoughts and art and work of other humans over the funhouse mirror built from their ripping off of their technological artifacts
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Years ago, before the rise of AI, I wrote a short fiction under a pen name. A listicle website ripped it off. Instead of DMCAing it, I sent a letter demanding 100% of the revenue the "editor" of the site hauled in from adverts posted against it.
That bought me a cheeseburger
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
But that content farmer, despite literally stealing hundreds of peoples' work, was somehow infinitely more honest than the LLM purveyors who have stolen work, dropped it thru a bitrotator, and called it their own
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
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Robert Evans (the Only Robert Evans) (@iwriteok.bsky.social):
South Africans: too racist for Steve Bannon
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Steve Bannon, Knight of the Long Knives
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
🧹
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Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller.bsky.social):
Who cares? Are you so easily sucked in by dumb irrelevant stuff like this?
brad (@bradiscranky.bsky.social):
which part is irrelevant? the caring about trans folk? the caring about racism and bigotry now being "free"? the caring about fact checking on social media?
you really are an online matt
Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller.bsky.social):
Trans people don't even agree among themselves what trans means. You're just a bully.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I used to have to deal with trolls claiming that scientists couldn't even agree amongst themselves what was causing climate change, or how evolution works, or whether tobacco caused cancer, or if TEL was toxic.
Congratulations on joining that illustrious group.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
bsky.app/profile/skyw...
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🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
@thelibraryces.bsky.social boop
Cesena Marie 🕷️ 🏳️⚧️ (@thelibraryces.bsky.social):
Hi, Autumn! 🥰
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
Good girl 😘
Cesena Marie 🕷️ 🏳️⚧️ (@thelibraryces.bsky.social):
🫠🫠🫠
I don't know what I did to deserve that...
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
Just live in the moment cutie
Cesena Marie 🕷️ 🏳️⚧️ (@thelibraryces.bsky.social):
🥰
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
Very good girl headpats
Cesena Marie 🕷️ 🏳️⚧️ (@thelibraryces.bsky.social):
Oh gosh
🫠🫠🫠💕
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
You OK?
Cesena Marie 🕷️ 🏳️⚧️ (@thelibraryces.bsky.social):
I am better than okay
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
Oh,I wonder why a babe like you,would be better than ok?
Cassandra Miller, Keeping On Keeping On (@tiptransformed.bsky.social):
You're both adorable.
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
I..noooo...I didn't expect this
Cassandra Miller, Keeping On Keeping On (@tiptransformed.bsky.social):
Heh heh heh.
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
H..help
Cassandra Miller, Keeping On Keeping On (@tiptransformed.bsky.social):
🤣
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
C..cassie??
Cassandra Miller, Keeping On Keeping On (@tiptransformed.bsky.social):
Yes?
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
T..this is torture
Cassandra Miller, Keeping On Keeping On (@tiptransformed.bsky.social):
Nah, you're just cute.
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
hides
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Nuuu no hides from the praises
🍂 Autumn 🍂 (@fallgirlautie.bsky.social):
hides from Penny too
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
JFC The Ataris' cover of Boys of Summer is old enough to buy alcohol in the States
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
"Out on the road today, a Propagandhi sticker onna Cadillac" doesn't scan right
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
JFC The Ataris' cover of Boys of Summer is old enough to buy alcohol in the States
ark of the - skyybeans (@skyblu.bsky.social):
I still like it
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Lovely cat lashes ♿ not taking shit era (18+, thar be nudes ici) (@kitton.me):
Hi, yes, this is more of a comment than a question...
Anyway, as an historian of queer socialization and sexuality,
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
has flashbacks
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bobby (@bobbylewis.bsky.social):
that is not what rawdogging is
dr. caitlin m. green (@caitlinmoriah.bsky.social):
we know! please try to imagine that we are actually human people who know things about the world
americandialect.org/2024-word-of...
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The word of the year for 2025 should be "Metonymy"
April (@aprillia.bsky.social):
Meta
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Reading more and more literature on German social movements leading in to the Völkisch movement & Nazism, I am repeatedly convinced that Nazism succeeded specifically by sublimating a rampant, ambient misogyny into direct hatred of a strawman of Jewishness equivocated to femininity.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
There are examples that are just "Are you tired of your wife nagging you? You know who's responsible for her attitude! The Jew" and I'm reminded of how deeply the /r/The_Donald subreddit drew on the Red Pill / MGTOW ecosystem already established on Reddit for membership
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Explain your username:
"So if you care to find me! Look to the Western Sky!
As someone told me lately, ev'ryone deserves a chance to fly!"
Wicked is as trans-coded an allegory as it's possible to find without it being explicitly about the transgender experience
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Sy Nakamura (@princewiddershins.bsky.social):
Accidentally ate some vegan cheese last night and I have never been so mad at food before this
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The closest I get to being vegan is eating mushrooms grilled in miso & soy sauce with butter
Oooh wait no, there's always PB&J sandwiches
Sy Nakamura (@princewiddershins.bsky.social):
That sounds tasty!
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petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
This is like saying "the closest I get to being alcohol free is having a few beers a night". It just makes no sense lol
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I see your responses through this thread that amount to proselytisation and you picked the wrong tack to use here by picking proselytisation, and you especially picked the wrong tack by picking to sneer at me
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
I think you're only saying that because you disagree with the cause. You never heard anti racist people telling people arguing against racism to watch their tone or stop proselytizing.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
No, I'm saying that as someone who has been a Taoist, a Buddhist, a vegan for 5 years earlier in life, whose diet is largely maize and soy and rice and veg now, who has diagnosed gastro issues Which I Ain't Discussin' With You, and who knows a lot about how not to persuade people
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
And in fact, I have told millions of antiracists to stop falling to racist's bad faith rhetorical traps, and to take concrete action. It is why Reddit kicked /r/the_donald and 3,500+ hate groups off the site.
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petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
What's persuasive and what's true aren't the same thing. The gap is growing every day. You should go vegan, if you ever were the the first place.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
The "… if you ever were …" bit is also on the canonical list of How Not To Persuade.
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
You might wanna look at the history of successful moral movements throughout history to see how militant they were.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
You might want to not patronise someone who led one
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
Which successful moral movement did you lead? Do you think MLK Jr didn't proselytize?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I told you. It's unpersuasive to treat people as game pieces instead of fully autonomous beings.
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
Can you show me where you told me? I see nothing about you leading a movement.
What ethical theory do you endorse? Have you studied ethics much?
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Is your goal here to encourage people to be vegan, or to feel superior? You're failing at the first and going through the motions of the second.
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
That's a bunch of words that don't answer my questions or address my argument
Try reading "Pacifism as Pathology"
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
They answer your questions, just not in the way you wish or expect.
Try treating people as autonomous beings who have their own agency and might like how Miso tastes.
Have a nice day.
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
I don't think you could name an ethical theory without googling and that's probably why you don't understand how your response was a non answer.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
You speak confidently from ignorance, rather than confidently from knowledge. That's sneering. Women can tell when men patronise and sneer at us.
petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
Read this paper: spot.colorado.edu/
heathwoo/re...Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Women can tell when we are patronised by any gender.
We often can also correctly identify that "Have a nice night" is a boundary being drawn, and to respect that boundary.
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petey (@plsdoitbetter.bsky.social):
I'm not a man. I have a master's degree in philosophy and focused on ethics. I've taught college classes on ethics and logic.
You're just talking shit and dodging questions you can't answer. I guess I shouldn't have expected someone who identifies as a witch to be the most intellectually literate.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Oh, sorry to misgender you. Have a good night.
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omg nobody cares??
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Sage 🏳️⚧️ (@trans.bsky.social):
The American Dialect Society rn:
Coca.Ebola (@coca-ebola.bsky.social):
Had to google aheago after reading the alt text. Feel like I've just leveled up
Sage 🏳️⚧️ (@trans.bsky.social):
you're welcome
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
😣🫸🏻 | Ahegao
————
😎 👉🏻| A shegao
Coca.Ebola (@coca-ebola.bsky.social):
Christ. Here I go again. Brb
Coca.Ebola (@coca-ebola.bsky.social):
I've been bamboozled.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Hornswoggled, even
Coca.Ebola (@coca-ebola.bsky.social):
Take my follow and please let me live in peace
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
I am going straight to heck
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ollo (@o11o.me):
@skywitches.net Vorschlag für die Blocklisten: @ein-libertaerer.bsky.social
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Viel dank !
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Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
today's wake-up get-dressed get-out-and-do soundtrack
This one goes out to @potzer.xyz & @kiraculous.net who make it better
...p o t z {er} - 🏳️⚧️🐉🦝 (@potzer.xyz):
Penny! 😭❤️😭 no you!🫵
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Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
Serious question: what do you do when you find an obvious MAGAt on this site?
I look at their followers with intent to block all of them.
Of the 3% I find myself following, are they just poorly vetted, following the MAGA to troll them, or just uninformed. Should I DM them and let them know?
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
Block:
OnlyFans
Illuminati
Vacant accounts
Other porn accounts
Illicit drug accounts
Misogynist accounts
MAGAs
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
I'm referring to the people who follow these accounts tho.
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
Understand. I just block leakage to my account
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
I wonder if that works? Bot farmers have big automation and dozens/hundreds of accounts. Clearsky shows who someone is blocking, so it's public info for any bot farmer to pick up.
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
Yeah, I had an experience a few days ago where a porn/onlyfans/prostitution account had 9 very similar clones. When I spotted them I went the "Report" then "Block" way. Exhausting but they folks at Bluesky can't do anything if they aren't aware.
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
We need better cowtools to help moderators. The abuse problem just gets magnified tho.
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
I suggested to Bluesky they build an algorithm identifying accounts with defined increased level of blocking from other accounts in addition to direct user reports.
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
This detection of "crowd blocking" would speed cleanup of Bluesky membership.
Illicit accounts along with an incompetent billionaire killed Twitter.
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
I'm trying out some theories right now with obvious MAGA accounts. One of the most important is curating my own follows by seeing who we have in common and removing them after checking in what's called "depth first search"
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
It doesn't work perfectly, still requires discretion when unfollowing. So it's difficult to automate.
I guess my question is if I find my account has bad followers and I think I'm pretty good at vetting, do I really want to block others who made the same mistakes?
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
You just click on the offender's profile and block
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
I'm talking about looking at the offernder's followers, ad infinitum, blocking the offender when I am done blocking all their followers.
Just found some good block lists at @skywitches.net.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Just so y'all know,
has been tried before and it gets promptly detected by bad actors and weaponised to get good faith / authentic users suspended.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
It also ironically introduces a tonne of manual review and investigation, which most social media moderation departments won't do, and bsky avoids.
So the line is at "evaluate user reports in isolation", for the most part.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
We can build and share blocklists though, based on any criteria we want, and increasingly I've been thinking about how those criteria can be clear, concise, and obviously necessary
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
Thanks.. What I was just entertaining while subscribing to a few of your blocklists is to transitively follow all paths and unfollow people I accidentally follow. I got listed a few weeks ago and vetting 13K people in a few weeks apparently led to some errors...
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USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
It's a solvable algorithm problem. Each Bluesky member is responsible for keeping site clean of bad actors. Start blocking domains if necessary.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
the issue is that there's no workable algorithm for "is XYZ Bluesky User Authentic", only "is XYZ Bluesky User engaging in abuse of the service".
So bad actors will flood the site with fake accounts and use them to submit reports. Which is an incentive that shouldn't be rewarded.
Orangesauce (@orangesauce.bsky.social):
What I was referring to here... bsky.app/profile/oran...
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USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
You can set a "number of followers" and "time on site" requirements for reporting.
Ms. Penny Oaken, SkyWitch (@skywitches.net):
Which also gets reverse engineered and exploited, as well. We saw it on Reddit a decade ago, where a network of pro-Trump astroturfers aged in their sockpuppet accounts for eight months in sports subreddits before using them to engage politics threads.
USA_Patriot_76 (@usa-patriot-76.bsky.social):
Sovereign state-level bots will continue escalating spy vs spy activities. But it will stop many OF and other abuses of the platform. My last round of followers was 2/3 bots.
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I am certain you do not wish to argue that several years ago you assaulted me at Tanglewood Forest. Several of your fellow company members have chased me and thwapped me with Amtgard -legal boffer weapons on Company Road while I was making announcements on behalf of Kingdom Officers.
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