Because the entire wage gap narrative is a scam on a scale that makes Nigerian princes blush. Why would I identify with someone trying to steal my shit?
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Feminism is the reason that women have the ability to vote. It's the reason why women get to have options on what careers they want instead of only being a housewife, and why women get to have the bodily autonomy they should have always had in the first place. (Even with more progressive feminist views being in place in society, there's still a lot of issues women face like sexual harassment and assault, and gender wage gaps).
zoomer moids grew up in a time where these problems existed primarily in history books and third world shitholes. they have never known a world where feminism was needed to fight for basic rights and freedoms.
[–]Ok-Repeat8069 35 points 4 hours ago
They have been told this story where every generation of men except for them got hot virgin wives who were eternally submissive and adoring and catered to their every need and whim. Then Feminism came along and turned almost all the women into screeching harpies who'll cry r*pe if you look at them sideways.
[–]DogMom814 383 points 11 hours ago
They see these types of things as a zero sum game. They believe, incorrectly, that if women gain something then men must be losing something.
but this belief that they lost something is correct. they lost the leverage of women being financially dependent on them. i think giving women the right to financial independence was the right and moral thing to do, but it absolutely reduced the value of the average moid in the dating market. maybe they weren't all getting adoring submissive virgin wives, but "every generation of men except for them" did have an advantage that's now gone.
losing privilege really does feel like oppression, and progressives have given little incentive for allyship save for an extra helping of moral castigation to atone for the sin of being born among the oppressor class . young men begin shifting rightward and progs are, of course, flabbergasted that the demographic they made no effort to curry favor with isn't lining up to vote against their own self interests.
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>i think giving women the right to financial independence was the right and moral thing to do, but it absolutely reduced the value of the average moid in the dating market. maybe they weren't all getting adoring submissive virgin wives, but "every generation of men except for them" did have an advantage that's now gone.
that's a strawman, and that fight has been thoroughly won. Modern feminism is definitely about advancing the interests of women without regard to much else, with women like rationalizations of why this is moral.
Stuff like gender quotas, overzealous HR departments, women is stem grants, pay gap discourse, redistibrutive justice. All of this is transparently just women as a class parasitically grabbing a bigger share of the economy without earning it. This only works because women are wonderful and are much more able to coordinate politically than men.
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I had a thing for feminists when it was briefly a non-mainstream thing from like 2019-2021 and meant they could be open to other fringe views but now that it's "in" again I'm against it
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i can't post on reddit any more but someone should post why are they asking feminists and not actual men?
to be really spicy someone should directly cross post to /r/askmenadvice or /r/askmenover30
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Do YOU enjoy any of the following?
Constant judgment over your ability to provide
Never-ending comparisons to people above and outside your social mobility level
Limitless denigration of your gender and emotions
Infinitely-scaling expenses for every thing you can conceive as enjoyable
No thanks for literally anything you do, regardless of difficulty
Then dating a feminist is right for you!
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don't forget the hairy armpits or leg beards
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Because the entire wage gap narrative is a scam on a scale that makes Nigerian princes blush. Why would I identify with someone trying to steal my shit?
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zoomer moids grew up in a time where these problems existed primarily in history books and third world shitholes. they have never known a world where feminism was needed to fight for basic rights and freedoms.
but this belief that they lost something is correct. they lost the leverage of women being financially dependent on them. i think giving women the right to financial independence was the right and moral thing to do, but it absolutely reduced the value of the average moid in the dating market. maybe they weren't all getting adoring submissive virgin wives, but "every generation of men except for them" did have an advantage that's now gone.
losing privilege really does feel like oppression, and progressives have given little incentive for allyship save for an extra helping of moral castigation to atone for the sin of being born among the oppressor class . young men begin shifting rightward and progs are, of course, flabbergasted that the demographic they made no effort to curry favor with isn't lining up to vote against their own self interests.
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that's a strawman, and that fight has been thoroughly won. Modern feminism is definitely about advancing the interests of women without regard to much else, with women like rationalizations of why this is moral.
Stuff like gender quotas, overzealous HR departments, women is stem grants, pay gap discourse, redistibrutive justice. All of this is transparently just women as a class parasitically grabbing a bigger share of the economy without earning it. This only works because women are wonderful and are much more able to coordinate politically than men.
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Why do a bunch of men avoid red flags?
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Feminist now means shrill chick who likes being choke-fricked by chuds.
I say this as a feminist ally
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I had a thing for feminists when it was briefly a non-mainstream thing from like 2019-2021 and meant they could be open to other fringe views but now that it's "in" again I'm against it
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Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1ii3q9j/why_is_being_a_feminist_so_controversial_for_some/:
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