LONG LIVE THE NEW FLESH 
I recently betrayed my !incels brothers and have been pursuing a foid for the last two months or so. 
Consistent with many accounts I think I am I mentalcel. I'm mid 20s I'm not dysgenic, somewhat overweight but average build for an American male with slightly above average height at 5'10"- my worst trait being by dry humor and flat affect due to being schizo 
I currently own a small house with an acre lot, nothing too extravagant but it's cozy and ideal for a bachelor with plenty of space to grow. While money is tight right now due to unforeseen house and car repairs I am gainfully employed at least for the foreseeable future. 
While not trying to oversell myself I don't think there's anything immediately blackpilling here. 
By all accounts of the woman and people I spoke to post-dates, I performed extremely well. 
I took her to low commitment places at first, coffee shops, bars, later taking her to increasingly nicer establishments - sit-down "community favorites"- eventually culminating in a $200 bill for one meal. I paid for everything dinner wise and "sweet treat" related. 
My house displays many photos of me and friends, plenty of very nerdy posters I enjoy but nothing "weeb" or "ugly". I have always ensured the house was very tidy, no stray papers or laundry strewn about (I even installed a closet organizer after a mishap involving the old hangers). I have subtle fragrance plug-ins in key areas, the trash was taken out, my sheets changed. My medicine cabinet well stocked, my potty spotless, fridge stocked with "women drinks" -I took notes of her cocktail of choice and made sure to have ingredients on hand.
My nerdyness is hard to ignore due to to my two workstations and server rack, but I prominently display plenty of SOVLful hobbies like photography, music and origami 
Before arriving home from dinner I'd pre-heat my house to 72 (she always felt cold) queue ambient music on my speakers (my house is extremely quiet) and make sure my lights illuminated everything properly. 
For activities we used the Twilight saga as a tentpole (I had never seen it) and by all accounts that was a very good choice. 
The tl;dr to this is I think I did everything perfectly that could be expected by someone with effectively zero experience with dating.
Yet after two months, she did not want to be my gf. "I don't see this evolving into a relationship" is how she put it. 
The funny thing is I don't completely disagree. I didn't personally feel a "spark" so to say but chalked this up to my relationships being so long and deep (my oldest friend I met at 5 or so). 
Not really sure what the takeaway of this post should be but it definitely sucks to go back to the dating grind knowing that I could once again do everything exactly right and still end up browsing an internet drama forum on a Friday night some months later. 
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As a Chad married man, she wanted you to make a move. You got her at your house and its nice and cozy. She gave up on you not because she wasn't into you, she gave up because YOU FRIEND ZONED HER. Women who are ripe want hard peepees not watching Netflix. You sound like you can probably pull chicks but once you get them, you can't close the deal. You aren't a lost cause.
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I invited her to stay over previously and she zoomed out. I thought she was looking for more commitment.
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Sounds like you got some good hands on experience and even though it wasn't 100% successful, it should make next time that much easier. As with everyone else here I'd suggest getting things physical a lot sooner and not trying to fret over the smaller, less important stuff, but that's obviously easier said than done.
You've got a good set up for yourself and that alone should make you more appealing. I've got faith in you and as long as you're willing to keep putting yourself out there am certain you'll find success sooner than later.
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I tried after five weeks or so, didn't get a good response - and then she didn't initiate anything until after she said it wouldn't move forward.
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5 weeks is way too long, she wasn't into it bc she already saw you as a gay bestie by that point. next time move much faster, it's ok
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I also heard from people that it was too quick lmao
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who did you hear this from? women want to feel desired, even if they say they don't want to be intimate right away, they still want to feel like you want them
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Okay i hear women wanting to be desired but i also heard that it pisses them off to not get what they want
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Neighbour you should have peepeeed her down second date what are you doing for two months??
One word: assertiveness.
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I tried to in the prior two weeks and she wasn't into it but then she was after saying this wouldn't continue. Idgi
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Oh man that's a classic! This exact thing happened to me many times when I was young, before I learned how women are.
Women are lonely social creatures who feed off your attention, if you're not assertive they're content to string you along. You spent two months entertaining her, paying for her dates, I bet you spent hours on the phone with her listening to her boring emotional problems.
They have no intention of sleeping with you if they don't respond fairly quickly to your attempts but they're perfectly happy to get everything out of you that they need. It's the equivalent of a guy fricking a woman he has no intention to date seriously.
So you finally got the guts to ask her straight and she had to give you a clear answer, and you probably pulled out emotionally after. That's why she tries to bait you back into it. If you tell her you're confused she'll try to make excuses and disengage and make no commitments, it's all just a bait to get you back paying attention to her and treating her like you'd treat a girlfriend without her having to make any commitment or give you anything in return.
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Surely then the best move forward is just treat it as over and see if she responds?
The funny thing is she was actually terrible at communication outside of dates and would respond after 24hr or so.
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Yeah it's over, you don't need to see if she responds unless you want to try to get some casual s*x out of it. I'd treat it as a learning experience and move on.
You sound like you have a lot going for you, if you can get your friends to set you up with another woman and you put on the moves quickly I'm sure you could get in a relationship fairly quickly.
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Yeah I really haven't had luck with dating apps , really just need to network.
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See this is why you should've used Jellyfin. Wouldn't have happened otherwise.
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what do you think the server rack is for?
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I actually rented the twilight movies on Amazon cause it was easier.
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Impressive. Normally people with such severe developmental disabilities struggle to write much more than a sentence or two. You really have exceeded our expectations for the writing portion. Sadly the coherency of your writing, along with your abilities in the social skills and reading portions, are far behind your peers with similar disabilities.
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This is going to be offensive and you should consult !biofoids on this but you just seem kinda boring, at least based on what you described.
Like, you were just going out to drink and eat, and watched movies in your home for two months? You should try to think of other places you can take her, experiment a little instead of playing it safe. If she just wants to eat and drink, she's kind boring too.
If you like photography and presumably have a big boy camera, did you suggest taking some pics of her? Could be a good excuse to lose some clothes too.
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Yeah needs to lighten up
No one cares about this stuff
Or your ambient lighting
Life is short, make her life exciting, that's what every romance movie is about, making women's blood pressure
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Neighbor goes out of his way to do basically everything but seem interesting and then complains about not feeling a spark.
To be fair it seems like he's a victim of reading too much into online women's angryposts bitching about their dates and exes who lived in crappy, underdecorated apartments who were too much into dumb moid hobbies and whatnot. Thing is these foids b-word about these guys so much because they keep dating these neighbors. Not saying that all foids do, but my point is that his approach like the one anecdote about the US air force trying to reinforce the parts of their bombers that were coming back with holes in them.
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do you really want a wammen who is dating dirty moids though?
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These small things for comfort are great layup for good things.
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I have a new hot water heater as well.
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living in the lap of luxury
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What do you suggest doing in the NE USA during February that's exciting
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Rubbing ice on your nipples while she watches.
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Fricking
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Ice skating
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picketball, volleyball, hiking, general urban exploration, thrifting, farmers markets, outdoor festivals, anything that gets ur hurtbeat up
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It didn't get above freezing for weeks bruv.
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Go looking for crawfish.
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Are you one of the Indians or did I mix you up? In Jan/Feb it's normal for it not to be above freezing (0C) most days.
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How dare you call me indian, I thought you knew me better than that.
What's a little frostbite? Besides you can get rid of her at sea, it's a win win.
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Wya?
I kind of ID people based off of pfps more often than not so it's likely yours matches ones of the jeets here when scaled on a phone screen.
I actually did grow up catching crawfish in the stream by my house. Never cooked tho, just release.
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She was a self described foodie so she was pretty excited to go to all the restaurants and gave me pretty detailed reviews afterwards.
Not trying to be super judgmental but yeah she was pretty normie. Didn't understand how streaming works because she exclusively watched network TV, especially like those ABC competition shows. She was pretty active so I guess I could've offer to go to the gym with her but she was driving 30min to see me (lived with parents, never would give me her address).
I agree I'd be up for more interesting dates but it was also Jan/Feb so it was like 25F on a good day, not exactly hiking weather.
Nothing extreme, I have photo journals when my friends visit and just use my phone.
I also enjoy using vintage Polaroids which I agree would be great for spicy photos.
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obvious gold digger red flag, you got scammed. r-slur
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It's honestly pretty hot to watch a woman devour a whole strip so I'm not exactly upset.
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NEVER ASK WOMEN FOR TIPS ON DATING WOMEN YOU BIPOC
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Women might not know what they want but they know what gives them the ick
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Lol no they don't, because the same behavior they would jail an ugly man for they would justify in a powerful man.
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Hmmm, yeah, what's that about huh?
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Women don't like dry humor, they like slapstick and cheesy humor. The trick is to make them feel comfortable laughing. But first you have to find them.
A good place to start is on the internet sites like rdrama where women are known to gather. Make a post about how your dog ran away from you and you need a female search partner so people don't think your gay or weird as you search the woods for your lost pup.
If you start hitting it off then lead them to a secluded spot in the neighborhood or woods. Start looking around scared and then ask if they hear that. When they say "hear what?" Say "those wedding bells" and get down on one knee and propose to her with at minimum a $3k ring.
I wouldn't do this personally but sounds like it's your best shot.
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Just clock it up as experience, 2 months of dating without trying anything is far too long though lad
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I did after five weeks and she wasn't into it.
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She already made up her mind. Women say they like all the courtship bullshit but the truth is, they already made up their mind when they met you. If you don't try to at least make a move early on to gauge her interest, then all you're doing is wasting your time.
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Why did she want to sleep over after she told me to kick rocks tho
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Because she's dumb and realized she might lose your attention, but you gotta respect yourself more and not give in to her whims. She already showed you that you didn't want a relationship, anything she pursues would come at the cost of your self.
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Just to be clear, if she messages me tomorrow I will absolutely be making a fool of myself just to eat her out
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You're better than that king. DONT DO IT!
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It'd feel like a win in my book if she ever messages back.
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NOOOOOOO YOU'RE JUST LETTING HER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR DESPERATION!!!
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Game is game player experience is experience if you're a real cel understanding and adjusting to the mindset and vibe of s*x is way more important than how well you perform the first time also kiss the back a lot to leave hickey bruises and she can lie about you hitting her to her friends
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I ain't even sure if I wanna bust bro I just wanna go lil wanye
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Five weeks is still pushing it tbh
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As in it was dead by then? The next date she was really into cuddling.
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bleak
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Here's more context which makes it doubly confusing:
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Holy moly neighbor you two have just been hanging out as friends with no substantial physical or emotional commitment to speak of course she'd be unsure about a serious relationship. Just escalate physically and emotionally b-word give her a reason to want to date you apart from free meals and dates every so often.
You can lead a mentalcel to gussy but you can't make him get his peepee wet.
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I tried initiating stuff previously and it didn't go well.
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at that point you gotta just go for it and see if you can get laid.
she may not see a relationship evolving, but if she was willing to cuddle at your place alone, she may have been down to frick at least once, and potentially more if it was any good.
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yes, I probably should've of just slept with her but I was being a CUTE TWINK having emotions and stuff.
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You definitely should have. I had a gf who confessed she had decided to end things after the second date but agreed to a third. We smashed and it ended up turning in to a 5 year relationship.
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Great Info, I'll keep this in mind if she reaches out again.
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Never apologize for feeling things king. Just don't tell women
Trans lives matter
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bussy u really do know the ladies well, eh?
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I have had this exact conversation exactly the same way at least 8 times.
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I don't understand women, man.
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I'm kind of a kitty for not just inviting her to stay over but in retrospect
What about if I sleep over lol
I have church in the morning, begone.
Is extremely funny.
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But yeah i don't understand what she wanted and everyone I have spoken about it is equally as confused.
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No I spoke to multiple married women about it as well and they were puzzled.
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Fricking heck maybe she's mentalcel too
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Women don't understand what they want either, so that's no surprise.
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??? she obviously wanted to see how big your p3nis was before committing?? I'm sorry for being mean but are all men this r-slurred 😭
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She could've just dodged the question and suggested something more forward.
Is 6.5 too small
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Did u fuk her bb
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no
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Omg
!commenters
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I'm in the comment section, no one tell my man that!
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2 months and presumably 1000s of dollars with no snizz is crazy.
Incels are so interesting. I'd love to meet one but they never go outside lolololol 😂🤣
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Yeah it was easily a band or so.
I go outside quite often and have a bunch of IRL friends, I just never pursued intimate relationships due of being !molested
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Do you have autism? This seems like an neurodivergent comment.
Just a tip for next time, if she doesn't at least suck you off on the ride home by the third date, it's going no where.
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No I'm schizoaffective.
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didn't read ur gay
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I only pinged incels intentionally.
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Interesting post, thanks for submitting
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I have to assume you're joking. Sorry if you were pinged her by someone else I exclusively chose the incels group.
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No i just read it and thought it was interesting
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Oh thanks then.
I usually make tech and food posts this was an unusual blog post from me.
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