Is the Pope a figurehead worth following in this day and age?
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What do you think that Jesus would think of Church? In general - not just Catholic or Protestant. Do you think Christianity as a whole lives up to His ideals?
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The answer is you cannot at all live up to the ideals, so the lord had to die on the cross for our sins - only through him are we able to get into heaven. Good deeds will do nothing, only by accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior are we allowed into the kingdom of God.
Also the modern day pope is as christian as I am a 13 yo anime girl.
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Why not?
Do you think it's possible that this is mistranslated or changed? Something so selfish doesn't line up with the rest of what Jesus said, imo.
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Those are basic tenants of the religion.
God does not need to fulfill your opinions on what you consider "good" or "fair".
People die in sweat shops for your comfort, in wars for your leisure. What good deed do you believe would justify the sins you have committed simply by being passive,.let alone the ones you actively commit?
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Sweatshops I can agree with because you are able to avoid those products. But I refuse to believe that you're culpable for wars because it's near impossible to opt out of society
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I don't think that either of those were within Jesus's message.
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Jesus' message was not for us, it is for humanity.
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What did He mean by this?
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I can't see the image, but I'm almost certain it's another reference to how we cannot understand the nature of God.
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The opposite.
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I once asked a pastor (and we were having this same exact discussion) whether babies who pass shortly after birth are unable to go to heaven (was going for objectively not guilty of any wrongdoing.) This neighbor said yes.
Jesus sounds like he was a decent dude till some butt hat started larping as him (and that's how we get this whole "accept Jesus or ur doomed")
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I think it really depends who you ask. I believe you can have the capacity to sin if you are a baby, but that also brings up questions of "could you live a sinless life theoretically?" which is clearly not possible.
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no. who do you think i am? I don't agree with your idea that living my own life or being "passive" is a sin. Can you point to scripture that says so? I'm also particularly interested in your take on what Jesus himself would think.
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You know why you can't get into heaven simply because of good deeds on the scale?
Answers like that. It's never your fault.
Only until you prostrate yourself to the Lord and work to serve him for his sacrifice - rather then pitifully for some reward - can you truly do good in this world. When you do good deeds for a reward - rather than through faith - it can become quickly selfish and self serving. Similar to flying a private jet but not using plastic straws. But many do not have the life experience to understand this. I'd be surprised if you do.
What would Jesus think? I think he'd want you to be unconcerned with his thoughts, but to do as much good in his name, and try your best to limit your sins.
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You misunderstand me.
When did Jesus ask this? He asked only for our belief. And indeed, if he thought this way why did he let John baptize Him? What are your thoughts on this, btw?
Why wouldn't he want me to try to identify with His thoughts?
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Neighbor if you want scripture drops go to church I work in IT
The bible is supposed to be that. If you pray and have faith you will eventually find answers, though not as quickly as you think
Asking for God's opinion on society at any point in creation and asking for anything other then "darnation" is selfish in itself. This isn't your supervisor giving you biyearly reviews, it's.fricking God,.and we are sinful.
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Shouldn't you be able to defend your ideas?
And what do you think Jesus himself thought of that? You're Christian, what did Christ think? Not your church?
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I literally told you what I thought God would say/think and you still ask that question.
And at the end of the day, I don't really care what you think and I'm not trying to convince you of anything. If you want these answers, go to church.
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To clarify, are you asking where did Jesus ask you to prostrate before him?
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I guess, this is old tbh I don't remember everything i was talking about. Should prob read the whole thing
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If Jesus chose to hideously mutilate and sexually abuse children out in public, you should not Question the Wisdom behind His actions, but rather ruminate upon your own actions and prostrate yourself before your Lord. It is pure ego and folly to believe that you may even discern the Lord's plan for you and this world for yourself.
Limit your sins, serve well and accept HIM into your heart.
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What is pure ego?
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Pure Ego is to Question the Wisdom and Will that has existed since time immemorial. What makes you think you're capable of questioning the actions of God when you haven't even lived for a fraction of the time He has? It took God seven days to create the world, and yet you believe you can refute thousands of years of Theosophy and His Teachings. Go ahead. What problems do you see with the Will and His Law? Thousands before you have scorned him and say "God am I." and have been cast down to the Prison of Satan. It's just how it is.
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God gave us the divine ability to question, not questioning would be equivocal to spitting in the Lord's face.
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I think this betrays the misunderstanding of how bad sin is and how darned we are. The Grace of God is the greatest gift because we literally do not deserve it.
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I really liked this apologists videos to show how good our evidence is for the manuscripts of the Gospels.
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I often struggle with the idea that Jesus would have supported anything other than personal salvation. I have Jewish family - are they darned because they follow their own religion? What about literally everyone else? It just doesn't make sense. I understand that there is a "clause" where those who haven't heard of Jesus can get into heaven on good deeds alone - but in the internet era that is a farfetched idea.
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IMO, what I believe:
If Jews were still following God they would be Christian. Talmudic Judaism is a offshoot of Judaism in opposition to Christianity.
If someone had the Gospels presented to them and rejected them, then yes they are darned.
If they give their "best effort" with the evidence presented to them (Romans 1:19-20) they will be judged based on what they knew.
I'd say going into the weed is difficult because you'll get answers from Catholics (works is needed for salvation along with the Grace of God and it is possible to lose this salvation), Prots ("by faith alone" generally), but also Calvinist Prots ("by faith alone" but humans are so far from God it is literally impossible for you to accept him unless he chooses you as an elect), and also many variations of all these.
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frick all that i think he'd think we all need to get on our knees and blow some neighbors for being made in his image
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I try to get on my knees but these frickin joints
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People live their own lives and follow their own customs, I'm hard pressed to find any good reason that how I was raised has any more universal truth to someone else's on the other side of the world. In that same vein I don't really care for Christian church attempts to justify it, either. I like church and understand wanting to keep with tradition in that manner but I can't merge my own spiritual beliefs with it.
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Do you accept that there is a Truth for these questions?
I believe Jesus rose from the dead. That is a truth statement I am making.
It's not about what is a feel good life philosophy, I'm saying I believe this man was the Son of God and what he said was God breathed.
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What questions?
If you are who I remember, we spoke about early Christian texts that go against what the church said. They are older than the church, they're just old testimonies of times when things weren't written as often. How do you reconcile that with your beliefs, if they are so sure? You can be spiritually secure in your own right without those same beliefs darning others who think different than you. This type of thing isn't even up for debate, though. There were many different thought processes that came around from Jesus's time. What makes your's correct? Is it just because your church was the best at burning books? lol
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Is there a true religion.
I mean based on my research we simply do have the old writings and the ones that were discarded are agreed upon as forgeries. We have more manuscripts for the Gospels than any work of antiquity and they line up with each other remarkably well. There wasn't a cabal behind this collecting the "correct" scriptures.
I'm very early in my growth as a Christian and maybe my thoughts will change over time, and I wholeheartedly believe in a liberal society where we can hold fundamentally different beliefs even if I disagree with them on an objective basis.
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Is there? Your dogma is quite literally what Jesus spoke against. I don't think you're wrong in your way, good luck in your growth.
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If Jesus rose from the dead, yes.
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Sure. I hope you remember, read, and care about what he actually said and don't worship him like a pinned doll you hung over your fire place like everyone else.
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Yes, yes, and no.
The only path to Heaven is Jesus.
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I remember a point in my mid-twenties that the revelation came to me. It was as if He had spoken to me and told me the truth of the world.
For days I lied awake in my parent's basement, not eating, only drinking water and defecating into a bucket I'd prepared beforehand.
Every night I would dream and hear his word. He would tell me that what existed was His Will and His Law, and that I must serve Him and Him only, just like the many billions living on Earth.
It is a stairway to heaven, but a gaping pit to heck. Not many make the ascent, and yet that is not cruelty but the whole of Law working as it should.
Honor His Word and Keep it Close to your heart. You do not want to be judged and be found wanting.
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